tubachris85x
Well-Known Hunter
I see what your saying, I think it was their way of making the visor appear even, and some what sealed in a weird way..
Oh yes, the inset layer is on both sides, I can see it in the pics..
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I see what your saying, I think it was their way of making the visor appear even, and some what sealed in a weird way..
Oh yes, the inset layer is on both sides, I can see it in the pics..
Spideyfett
Well-Known Hunter
I completely agree, MR had the potential to use the right helmet to begin with...and normally I wouldn't think too much about this whole MR thing, cause once I found out it wasn't the Hero, I was out...early.
BUT...after seeing the work they did on this helmet, WHICH is REALLY MILES better than what I thought they were going to do, they really had an oppertunity here......and could have made the "end all be all" helmet........oh well. :facepalm
Spideyfett
Well-Known Hunter
I have more pictures, I'll post them tonight...
Its just something THEY added to make the visor flush... wasn't needed, but doesn't hender it either...if that makes sense.
Rogue Studios
Active Hunter
In the end I would guess it was LFL licensing that told them what to do. Based on my interactions.
tubachris85x
Well-Known Hunter
I wouldnt doubt that they had to listen to them, I mean, afterall, they were still under LFL's contract
DarthMiller
Well-Known Hunter
WOW....great info Lee...I never knew all this stuff
you are the man!!
I am SO glad to see you posting
hope to see you in Dallas for the Bulloch project!!:cheers:cheers
you are the man!!
I am SO glad to see you posting
hope to see you in Dallas for the Bulloch project!!:cheers:cheers
Desloc
Hunter
Spideyfett,
Not mincing words however, I used the term "almost" identical, not identical. When putting the two side by side they can be confused by all but the most anally retentive..... well all but those on this web site...
Can someone post a comparison of MR, PP3 and ESH?
Spideyfett
Well-Known Hunter
Spideyfett,
Not mincing words however, I used the term "almost" identical, not identical. When putting the two side by side they can be confused by all but the most anally retentive..... well all but those on this web site...
Can someone post a comparison of MR, PP3 and ESH?
Sorry if that came across harsh..my bad..
..but I get what you're saying...and I don't think that there are any good shots of the PP3???, at least any that have been shared...
...I asked for some, but nothing yet...good Idea though
Desloc
Hunter
Spidey,Sorry if that came across harsh..my bad..
Dude, my skin is so thick I didn't even notice..
Off subject, but I miss Texas, stationed there for a few years.I did get my MR yesterday and absolutely love it. Wife says I need to part with the Don Post Deluxe, any takers all paperwork
$600 w/shipping OBO?
Mike
Funny that this has come up as Tyler and I were talking today about the perceptions people have and the misperceptions perhaps we helped create. I used to be of the opinion that all the helmets were quite unique with the ESB being the most different of the group. However, over the years I have come to see that the helmets have a LOT more in common than they have differences. I think for so long there has been this deep seated myth that the ESB is so much wider and has so much more (I cringe to use the word) flair that we have begun to see things or more accurately exaggerate things that ARE there but aren't there nearly to the degree that we perceive in our heads. I think in a desire to do what we do, hash out the most trivial details, we have gotten to a point where we blow very very very small details out of proportion. For me and my beliefs, I think ALL of the known real Fett helmets were cast at the same time, probably from a single mold. I think, as with any cast piece that there were minor variations in the cast that may have become more prevalent when the center visor was cut out. However, I truly think that sculpting a helmet specifically to be ONE of the helmets is something of a mistake. I believe with the slightest mods, any good helmet could be made to represent any of the original helmets... but... that is just me.
Tyler Durden
Well-Known Hunter
Below is a comparison of the ESB hero at taken at AOSW and the PP3 helmet scanned by MR.
No photos two will look exactly the same due to focal length and camera differences, but the comparison shows there is very little structural difference between the two helmets. Note: the ESB helmet is at a slight downward angle compared to the PP3
Also, the colors look slightly different because the ESB helmet was under dim yellow lighting while the the PP3 was under brighter less harsh lighting; the colors are probably identical in person.
No photos two will look exactly the same due to focal length and camera differences, but the comparison shows there is very little structural difference between the two helmets. Note: the ESB helmet is at a slight downward angle compared to the PP3
Also, the colors look slightly different because the ESB helmet was under dim yellow lighting while the the PP3 was under brighter less harsh lighting; the colors are probably identical in person.
superjedi
Sr Hunter
It's so wild that the ESB helmet's paintjob was obviously copied very closely from the PP3.
If they did that, it seems that the PP3 was the one that was "approved" for use in the movie. So why would they have gone to the considerable trouble of painting another one in a nearly identical manner? Maybe the PP3 wasn't built to "hero" specifications materials-wise?
If they did that, it seems that the PP3 was the one that was "approved" for use in the movie. So why would they have gone to the considerable trouble of painting another one in a nearly identical manner? Maybe the PP3 wasn't built to "hero" specifications materials-wise?
Tyler Durden
Well-Known Hunter
Actually, the PP3's construction is a little cleaner compared to the ESB hero.
It has all the internals of a production helmet: chin strap, working leds, ect... so I don't know of any physical reasons why one helmet was chosen over another. Perhaps it was just a blind choice.
It has all the internals of a production helmet: chin strap, working leds, ect... so I don't know of any physical reasons why one helmet was chosen over another. Perhaps it was just a blind choice.
Tyler Durden
Well-Known Hunter
Absolutely! Except, I don't think we know for sure if the PP3 came before the ESB. For the longest time, we thought the ROTJ helmet was made after the ESB, and now know that is not the case. The chronology of the ESB and PP3 helmets could change as well.
I don't have any facts to back this up, but reason implies that they would have made a backup in case the production used helmet broke, got lost/stolen ect... Most FX crews aren't going to risk stopping production because they had only one "film-ready" helmet.
superjedi
Sr Hunter
Well, I don't know a lot about the production chronology, but it stands to reason that once one was approved (either the PP3 or ESB Hero) the other was painted up immediately afterwards.
It must have been like some of us do, except instead of copying the details from pictures, they were copying from another helmet!
It must have been like some of us do, except instead of copying the details from pictures, they were copying from another helmet!
Devilstar2k2
Active Hunter
These were posted by BanditJedi at the MR forums... Hope he doesn't mind me rehosting them, but these 2 would come in handy for those of us that haven't received ours yet.
DP95 and MR
RF pic
DP95 and MR
RF pic
Ahahahaha!
Check this pic and you can see my contribution to the MR helmet. Take a close look at the top of the large chip on the MQ-1 board. See those two little upright scratches on the top righthand side?? Remind you of anything?
I etched those into my MQ-1 before sending it to MR to be cast for the helmet. I'll have to dig it out and take a pic to show the matching marks. While it is a small thing, I am pretty tickled to see a piece I found is also a piece I supplied for a helmet that is being enjoyed by so many. OK, enough ego stroking.
Check this pic and you can see my contribution to the MR helmet. Take a close look at the top of the large chip on the MQ-1 board. See those two little upright scratches on the top righthand side?? Remind you of anything?
I etched those into my MQ-1 before sending it to MR to be cast for the helmet. I'll have to dig it out and take a pic to show the matching marks. While it is a small thing, I am pretty tickled to see a piece I found is also a piece I supplied for a helmet that is being enjoyed by so many. OK, enough ego stroking.
Rogue Studios
Active Hunter
Well, I don't know a lot about the production chronology, but it stands to reason that once one was approved (either the PP3 or ESB Hero) the other was painted up immediately afterwards.
It must have been like some of us do, except instead of copying the details from pictures, they were copying from another helmet!
No they actually painted the changes in China from photos.
Gator Fett
Well-Known Hunter
Lee, I think superjedi was refering to the original production chronology of the PP3 and ESB helmets, not the MR.
Or are you saying that the original helmets were painted in China?
