NEW MR FETT HELMET PICS

I emailed the guy at www.t-visor.com about selling a corrected visor especially for the MR helmet (hopefully it's an easy swap). He's into it, and I offered to send him a template once I receive my helmet, unless someone wants to send it to him first.
 
Count Dookie said:
I emailed the guy at www.t-visor.com about selling a corrected visor especially for the MR helmet (hopefully it's an easy swap). He's into it, and I offered to send him a template once I receive my helmet, unless someone wants to send it to him first.
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That would be cool... a replacement visor? I expect that a few members here may just want one? ;) :lol:
 
I received my MR "Signature Edition" Boba Fett Helmet today and it's also happens to be a very low number to boot, 64 out 750! (y)

Honestly guys, I'm very picky and I hate to admit it, but I have to say, this helmet is extremely nice, the weight, the finish and overall appearance are top notch! Again, as stated before, it's just a shame they didn't take that one additional step or go that extra 10% and correct the tapering of the mandibles. :confused

I'm not quite sure if simply installing a new visor will do it or if some additional light heat applied to the inside of that mandible will be required. I will keep a close look out for the first member to come up with a way of correcting this flaw. ;)

In any regard, if this was "MASTER REPLICA'S" ride off into the Star Wars prop sunset, it was a pretty good one to go out on! (y)

THX

:cheers
 
Heres a silly question, how is the circuit board secured into the helmet?

It almost looks like its cast into it, though thats not possible as it has crevices.
 
Desloc said:
In my eye the PP3 and Hero appear "almost" identical.
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Not sure how you can say that?? pictures show otherwise....IMO
The Archives Exhibit at C4 100% confirmed that the hero, albeit through repairs etc etc, and the PP3 now have two completely different over all shapes, especially on the mandibles....(y)
Not saying they didn't come from the same mold, or are the same base helmet...just saying they're not Identical now.
 
I agree 100%

I know they all came from the same mold...however after seeing the HERO in person at C4 they look like different helmets.

Basically what I am saying is when I look at the MR from about 3 feet which is the distance I was from the HERO they look NOTHING alike....its crazy to say that but its true.



Spideyfett said:
Not sure how you can say that?? pictures show otherwise....IMO
The Archives Exhibit at C4 100% confirmed that the hero, albeit through repairs etc etc, and the PP3 now have two completely different over all shapes, especially on the mandibles....(y)
Not saying they didn't come from the same mold, or are the same base helmet...just saying they're not Identical now.
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DarthMiller said:
I agree 100%

I know they all came from the same mold...however after seeing the HERO in person at C4 they look like different helmets.

Basically what I am saying is when I look at the MR from about 3 feet which is the distance I was from the HERO they look NOTHING alike....its crazy to say that but its true.
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Exactly, cause trust me, if they had used the HERO helmet I would have ordered THREE up front!! :lol:............they're not the same...anymore.
 
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DarthMiller said:
I agree 100%

I know they all came from the same mold...however after seeing the HERO in person at C4 they look like different helmets.

Basically what I am saying is when I look at the MR from about 3 feet which is the distance I was from the HERO they look NOTHING alike....its crazy to say that but its true.
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Hey, in the scheme of all this don't let your brain confuse the eyes (what I mean is your eyes aren't lying). The ESB was damaged and repaired so it is definitely although very slightly different. The backend cracked out and was repaired this repair caused the 1/8" or so increased flare out. It was repaired with epoxy putty and you can see it in some photos. Two out of 6 helmets produced were also vacuformed possibly for stunt use and those could actually appear larger as well. Also, the eyeslot cracks near the outward edge of each eye was caused by too much pressure exerted by the chinstrap and that is why they were removed.

I guess the easiest litmus test for actually determing the flare out is the more you flare it out the more stalk angle it creates if that makes sense. So if you are happy with the flare you create and not ok with the stalk angling inward then you have too much flare. Hope this makes sense and may put to rest how much flare is needed.

Back to the cave.

Lee
 
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Original trooper helmets were two piece vac-formed, and although from the same molds they all appear slightly different after assembly. I know its no basis for a comparison but hey :lol:
 
Rogue Studios said:
Hey, in the scheme of all this don't let your brain confuse the eyes (what I mean is your eyes aren't lying). The ESB was damaged and repaired so it is definitely although very slightly different. The backend cracked out and was repaired this repair caused the 1/8" or so increased flare out. It was repaired with epoxy putty and you can see it in some photos. Two out of 6 helmets produced were also vacuformed possibly for stunt use and those could actually appear larger as well. Also, the eyeslot cracks near the outward edge of each eye was caused by too much pressure exerted by the chinstrap and that is why they were removed.

I guess the easiest litmus test for actually determing the flare out is the more you flare it out the more stalk angle it creates if that makes sense. So if you are happy with the flare you create and not ok with the stalk angling inward then you have too much flare. Hope this makes sense and may put to rest how much flare is needed.

Back to the cave.
Lee
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Thanks for clearing up some of the exact details of how different these two helmets really are...(y)..which again just proves they are two different helmets now.

Question: was the damage done before or after the hero was used for ESB??

:)
 
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I can spot the crack in the dark upper cheek on the Borden side in a production photo. The whole ESB seems to be made of extremely thin fiberglass. That thing has hairline cracks everywhere and as Lee said, the cracked back and eyeslot crack. It should have been thrown in the dumpster.;)
 
Well per Lucasfilm when I was working on the MR they were most interested in the paints and colors I used on the proto. They indicated they had to repair the helmet several times after post production and had a really difficult time matching colors so I provided them swatches and colors for future reference (they indicated after it goes on tour damages etc.). With that, things like the brow sag, craked rear plate, were probably caused during and after production. The PP2 was destined to be the hero helmet until it was stolen. When I got my casting it was indicated to me the ESB looked like a fork lift had ran it over not too much after the film closed.
 
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Rogue Studios said:
Well per Lucasfilm when I was working on the MR they were most interested in the paints and colors I used on the proto. They indicated they had to repair the helmet several times after post production and had a really difficult time matching colors so I provided them swatches and colors for future reference. With that, things like the brow sag, craked rear plate, were probably caused during and after production. The PP2 was destined to be the hero helmet until it was stolen. When I got my casting it was indicated to me the ESB looked like a fork lift had ran it over not too much after the film closed.
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ahhh, I see..good stuff..(y)

Kevin, I think his screen name is TK172 on TDH, was in the Exhibit hall when they unpacked the Hero ESB helmet at C4...and stated that it was in a separate Box, and had molded foam to secure it...I guess to protect it...but was not apart of the crated packed suit.
Your statement would lead me to believe that the hero may not have been used by MR not only cause they just didn't know the difference, but because it was too frail to be handled by human hands to scan....(y)...maybe?
 
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I came in after the helmet was scanned but got involved once a few of us found they scanned the wrong helmet. The ESB was on tour in Singapore at the time. Initially LFL licensing felt that the PP3 was the hero and a phone call corrected that. I truly believe they felt we were mistaking and I was just a dumb starstruck fanboy or something. I am working on all of this and hope to finish up speaking with more players and hoepfully one day this book thing will happen.
 
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I think a book deal with LFL would def help lay to rest and clear up all the lose ends when it comes to the Mystery of Fett....

awesome...(y)
 
I hope so but to be honest some things may be tough to answer. So much has been forgotten etc. even at times damage used to show up possibly from the visitor to the archive trying on a helmet setting it down and oops this stick thingy just snapped off I'll just stick it on there and no one will notice. Also, several folks directly involved with the suit itself have passed away. I want to report what I find and if nothing can be based on facts it'll be readers choice. Anyway we'll see the book deal initally offered to me was not even close to break even.

On the stolen helmet I would let that one lie. It is owned privately now and that owner did not steal it. I mean in all of this research I even found out about some X-wings given to a guys kids to play with and they are forever gone. I think LFL has finally got a grasp on taking care of this stuff for the most part compared to the old days when you could step on trooper armor laying on the floor.
 
I'm interested to see if eFX picks up production on the Fett helmet at some point, and whether they're open to making the changes that MR wasn't able/willing to make.
 
Rogue Studios said:
I hope so but to be honest some things may be tough to answer. So much has been forgotten etc. even at times damage used to show up possibly from the visitor to the archive trying on a helmet setting it down and oops this stick thingy just snapped off I'll just stick it on there and no one will notice. Also, several folks directly involved with the suit itself have passed away. I want to report what I find and if nothing can be based on facts it'll be readers choice. Anyway we'll see the book deal initally offered to me was not even close to break even.

On the stolen helmet I would let that one lie. It is owned privately now and that owner did not steal it. I mean in all of this research I even found out about some X-wings given to a guys kids to play with and they are forever gone. I think LFL has finally got a grasp on taking care of this stuff for the most part compared to the old days when you could step on trooper armor laying on the floor.
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Im just saying, that in a way, not the guy who own's it now, but the theif, sorta screwd over people, such as, not being able to be used as the main reference for MR and making this helmet. While they probably would have used the hero, they were stuck with the stunt. I just feel that just cheats the company from making their products as accurate as possible. Its truly a shame.

I know there are more accurate fan-made helmets, and Im not trying to say that MR's products are 'the most accurate,' but this had the potential to be one of the best ones, and massed produced at the same time. No other company has made such quality SW replicas. Its probably just me, I dont even own one of these, but I just feel that it being stolen, cheated alot of people out from getting the best of the best, and accurate.

However, the issue with the mandibles is IMO something MR could have fixed outright.
 
Hi guys,
Just wanted to ask about something concerning the left mandible. I saw a pic on another board that was at an angle close to Spidey's 16th picture. There seemed to be an extra "layer" inside the mandible, slightly inset. It didn't seem to be on the right mandible.
What do you suppose the reason would be to build it that way? Might it have something to do with structural integrity somehow? Could it affect the way the left mandible "toes in" at the bottom?
Just seems like a weird feature to include.
 
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