New MR Fett Helmet Master

mmmmm....$700 later...

nice. i hope they do a great job... this could be a good product to help them buff up the tarnished image that recent issues have left them.

hmmm.... maybe my ESB helmet craving can be filled by this?

If the actual production helmet looks as good as the master, this would be my first MR purchase!

I guess, now we wait and see!

Originally Posted by Mirax H

Now lets see how well MR can reproduce it!!

Are you suggesting that a 15 year old girl in China will be able to paint as well as Rogue Studios? I kid of course, but I don't have a lot of faith in MR at this point. They managed to screw up the clone helmets and a Fett paintjob is way more involved than a clone bucket.

It will be very very funny to compare this pics with the final version... .

That one looks great, it would be nice if they could mass produce it...

-Tony Vida; TK 3204; Austin, Tx

What helmet was used for this?

. . .and I just spent a fortune on a MS ESB Nevermind . .it doesnt hurt to have two ESB helmets does it?

That looks really impressive actually but we'l have to wait and see wether MR can mass produce them to this standard I guess.

The process is being worked out right now but every effort is being made to recreate this properly. It ain't easy LOL.

Lee

RS, they should just send you off to China to do every. single. one.

SAS

Originally Posted by Rogue Studios

The process is being worked out right now but every effort is being made to recreate this properly. It ain't easy LOL.

Lee

I agree with Sidewinder. Pack your bags RS, you're going to China!

I really do hope that MR manage to pull this one off. It won't be easy, and if it turns out good I would definately be tempted to make this my first MR purchase.

Dan

Originally Posted by deadbolt

What helmet was used for this?

The MR prototype helmet is a scan of the preproduction 3 helmet, which is very similar to the Empire helmet.

RS, fantastic work! I'm in love with the mandibles.

I don't know how faithful the paint job will remain on the production versions, but you gave them one heck of a master to work off of.

WOW! Looks great.... (Lee, can I live in your garage? Please!)

Great Work RS.......

Originally Posted by Rogue Studios

The process is being worked out right now but every effort is being made to recreate this properly. It ain't easy LOL.

Lee

Well done as always. They picked the perfect Master, however I don't think this can be replicated in mass production in China. I'm sure the bucket will be the best one to date that is not Fan made and painted.

Great work Lee. When're you painting the rest of our's?

Wait, so RS...the one here, painted the original for MR?

Yeah, I'm confused!! You painted that one RS??? Looks awesome.

AWESOME as usual Lee!! Kudos on giving them a real "MASTER"!!!!

Steve

Originally Posted by DL44 Blaster

AWESOME as usual Lee!! Kudos on giving them a real "MASTER"!!!! Steve

I second that!!.....
SOOO glad this stayed in TDH family......I'm jealous LEE ...

im confused.... what happened to that other guy that was painting the MS master??

Lee -

Not sure how it came about ... but I'm hoping the "Deleted Thread" had something to do with you getting this gig. I know that MR was watching that thread closely (which is why they requested it be yanked ) ... maybe they'll be starting a new trend of "Listening" to the fans

It pleases the hell out of me that you're finally getting the recognition you deserve for all your research and efforts ! A sincere CONGRATS bud .... make us fettsters proud !!!


FP

Excellent work!
I'm with everyone else when I say I hope this level of detail can be mass-replicated on the production buckets.

Anyone want to by an original DP Deluxe?
Mike

Wow I agree with everything else stated in this tread, congrats to Lee for getting the opertunity to give MR a TRUE Fett paint jobto go with their helmet. I hope it comes out even half as good as the master did. But if Lee is working with MR to help figure out a way it can be done, then it might come out decent. This is on my buy list for sure.

I too wonder about what happened to the other guy they had...

Thanks a bunch everyone it's not perfect but hoepfully it can be replicated almost the same. The thing is weathered all over the place and I did a few things I have never tried before.

Awesome Hero RS! Are there any other tasty details you might be able to give us TDH'rs the inside scoop on, about this much anticipated MR release? Huh? Huh? Can ya'? Maybe like machined/cast aluminum range finder, metal casting of the Borden Tool, Working LED's etc.? We await with baited breath.......

believe the ears and stalk will be aluminum. I know the prototypes ears were machined but not sure if the final will be cast or machined. Not sure on the borden connector or LEDs. It should have a real MQ-1 casting in the back as they have a real casting.

Wow, that's a beauty! I think this will help MR tremendously.

if MR can reproduce that I will be in SHOCK!!!

I am praying they can pull it off.

RS can you give us some info on HOW they are planning to do this???

I had a talk about this and some good ideas are being worked up as ways to do it but of course I'm not sure leaving that for China to figure out.No matter what you do in mass production it can't replace a human hand in a cost effective approach. The MR folks are already putting sweat into the process so it is a major focus right now.

It should be a fun ride.

The ONLY critique I'd like to offer, (which has nothing to do with the paintjob) is that the LED's need to be recessed into the rangefinder. On all of the images over at TDH archive the LED's are clearly not protruding out of the rangefinder body, but instead recessed completely.

Thought I'd mention this in case MR is watching this thread too

Steve

RS,

Did you paint over Jason Eaton's earlier, much-maligned paint job or did MR give you a new fiberglass bucket to work on?

Tom

Well I don't want to give Jason a hard time he did his best to produce what he thought was needed. I sanded down the helmet and then primered it and started it up the ears were metal so I just used thinner on those. The LED's were installed already and the RF is a solid piece in the black area. The LED's are actually different on the real helmet but TD can tell you about that.

Lee

Lee,
Since you've seen this bucket up close and personal, can you tell us if it is a symmetrical mold or did they try to replicate the assymetry of the original molds? Thanks.

To be honest if I didn't have an original casting this would be the holy grail to me. They did fix some assymetry but they didn't alter the helmet they scanned if that makes sense. It's also assymetrical so it's not perfect so breathe a sigh of relief it's actually a great compromise. Looking at it next to my original it looks better to be honest since if they didn't fix stuff you would get lumpy bumpy helmet LOL. I was also relieved to see everything matched up very very well. For the record this is not a Don Post on steroids it's a scanned copy of an original and in my opinion and I don't feel I am biased but it's the best **** helmet you can or will be able to own.

RS.. you are amazing! :thumbup

hmm...yea...I think I'll have to sell off my current bucket when this ragin' lid comes out.

Wow!This helmet is awesome! I'm ready to buy one right now.The detail on the helmet is sick.

Great work Lee

Is there any way you could give us a size comparison ? Do you know what its size is compared to say a Mystery, or MS, BM, or DP95 ?

Just thought i'd ask incase you had any of the above mentioned helmets to stand next to it while you were working on it .

I know larger headed people would like to know if their mellons are gonna fit and by the same tolkien of if it's going to look too bobble-headed on a smaller framed person

thanks man

Well it's not as big as you imgaine but it's also not that small either. It's just it's own creature but a nice sized noggin will fit in it...a melon head will fit, a gourd head will not LOL. A

Hey RS,
i was looking at a (koenig collectibles...i think) website that offered presales on this helmet. They had a limited ed and a collectors ed. Do you know the difference? And do you know how much these will cost?
Thanks

That is odd because neither of those details have ben fully hammered out yet.... Sounds like someone is jumping the gun.

From what I know this is the only helmet in the works but of course I have only been involved with this for about 7 days.

Hey Lee,
What would you say the quality of the fiberglass on this helmet is? was it atall flimzy wile handleing it?

First rate all the way. I think the people who did the work on the Vader helmet did the work on this. In the dome it's very similar to the real deal.

Fantastic work Lee. :thumbup

Like FP said, I am glad that you are finally getting the recognition for all of the research and work you have put into this hobby. Without your efforts, none of our current helmets would look as good as they do.


Gator

I wonder how they will finnish the interior of this helmet. You think they will just do simple padding like the clones or something more complex?

Beautiful work! Stunning!

Simply amazing work lee, im very glad they got you involved on this, it just wouldnt be anywhere near accurate without your input, I'll probably get one now, fantastic!!

This thing is going to be awesome! I like many others doubted the quality of the first paint job but recognized the potential of the final product. Now my doubts have finally gone as I see the new paint master from the Paint Master. Awesome Lee! Let those who so cruelly bashed this helmet and Master Replicas humble themselves before you...

Can't wait to own one!

Thank you everyone for the positive comments it really means a lot to me and MR is very pleased as well. Just a tidbit but they are really at the grindstone trying to get this properly recreated.

Lee

Thats a good looking helmet, a very nice paint job too
I've not hear of MR before, but might consider this helmet.

Wow, Lee!

That's hard to believe it was the same helmet.

I was wondering how does this helmet compares to the MSH2 and MS/Mystery helmets in terms of size?

New pic on the MR website

Nathan

sign me up!

Good eye. The picture was taken before I completed helmet but the decal is still on it .

Lee

WHEN??

HOW MUCH???

I need to know!

Will their be an ROTJ MR Version or will we just have to modify it ourself to make it an ROTJ version?.

And will it have an interior like the mini riddel helmets?

i want to see how well they get the back of the helmet before i go puting my had earned cash into this

Holy ****! that is NICE!, i would like to get a helmet just like it, too bad you cant mass produce it, and BTW dose anyone where i can buy a BOBA FETT armor? all I can find is Jango Fett, but i want Boba! if you can help, PM me pls, than



Damrus

Impressive as all hell! Congrats to RS and anyone else helping him (if any) for a great job they are doing to get MR to be able to get a faithful replica produced.

Now, here's my question:

As good as this is going to look, will it be up to 501st standards without a repaint? With them as "hoity-toity" and strict as the can sometimes be, it makes me wonder if it'll be worth it. On a shelf on display it'll be fantastic and would look perfect when costuming but will it get "Oh, great suit but he cheesed out when it came to his helmet." comments behind the wearers back?

This is not meant as a bashing of this helmet or RS for his work on it in ANY way as both are OUTSTANDING and I WILL be getting one anyway!

It's a good question and I think it's as much a mystery to me as it is to you folks. I think the scratches should be rendered pretty well based on the concept process discussed with me. I think if anything the weathering might be a little light and that's it but that is just my theory. As far as 501st approval I have painted several helmets for 501st members and to my knowledge they received no grief to this point but I doubt if they are that strict but I have no idea.

Lee

Does anyone have pics of the PP3 helmet they can throw up? If that is the majority of the pics RS used then it should be compared to that instead of the ESB helmet.

Maybe the painters in China will come up with some layered template paint by number thingy. I will in the meantime give them a thumbsup benefit of the doubt on a decent paintjob until i can see the final product. They can copy anything over there it seems.

RS: you told us the correct colors to use and i am even more impressed how you threw them down. WOW

I think what Lee said was he didn't use the PP3 helmet photos so much for reference for scratches (since they are quite different than the ESB hero), but rather for a better idea of how exactly it was weathered and such. So it should compared to the ESB hero helmet, but also as he said there are a few details left out because the factory job won't pick them all up anyway.

All very good here... By the way if someone cares to they can put up a really good comparison so I can take my awful one down. Maybe I will anyway because it makes me embarassed whenever I look at it. I've said it many times to myself; TIME FOR A REFERENCE CD KEEGAN!

RS just curious about the size, how much bigger/smaller is this bucket compared to the MSH2?

Overall I would estimate the MSH-2 is about 8-10% larger overall as a whole.

WOW!! That much The MLC must be enormous then.......

Steve

That is overall so that is just an off the cuff estimate nothing accurate so don't hold me to it.

I know this had been said over 57 times, but Lee, this is incredible. I think every member here should pay their respect. As soon as this mother is released, I will own one. I promise.

Indeed. I think that counts for a lot of us here. I'd say this helmet has been saved from certain death!

Outstanding work!

I saw the original thread on the RPF and my jaw hit the floor then. Now, each time I look at it, it still continues to amaze me.

Lee, you've set the bar...

I know Lee has more or less left TDH, but does anybody have any updates on this? When is the scheduled release date for the mass produced version? How much of the detail Lee put into his master will be mass produced?

Well I sent a message to MR Customer Care on myspace asking if she could possibly tell me the possible scheduled release date and here is her reply. "We are thinking about doing it but it hasn't been a 100% confirmed yet. When we know we will certainly let you all know! "

Has anyone heard anything new?

I will ask Lee if he has heard anything but as far as I am aware - No

Sorry to necro post but I didn't think it would be appropriate to start a new thread. I have only seen pictures of the MR booth at Toy Fair on rebelscum.com so far. I was really excited to see the Bobam Gree, and TK helmet on display. I just hope that the paintjobs on these helmets are clean and look nice when they are actually produced.

Boba Helmet: http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2007/MRSneak/image9.asp

MR page: http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2007/MRSneak/default.asp

Originally Posted by TxFett

Sorry to necro post but I didn't think it would be appropriate to start a new thread. I have only seen pictures of the MR booth at Toy Fair on rebelscum.com so far. I was really excited to see the Bobam Gree, and TK helmet on display. I just hope that the paintjobs on these helmets are clean and look nice when they are actually produced.

Boba Helmet: http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2007/MRSneak/image9.asp

MR page: http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2007/MRSneak/default.asp

Boba Helm looks nice, but is that a Hero Version Stormtrooper helmet I see. Are those being made? I thought if was a Stunt version, gitty if it is the Hero v. !

I recall reading somewhere that there would actually be three seperate versions of the TK helmet for sale but that just may have been speculation.

Originally Posted by NikNak_aka

I dunno that tk helmet doesn't look so great to me... too symmetrical... maybe is just the camera shot.
http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2007/MRSneak/image4.asp

And look how large the ear cap is on the boba bucket... its doesnt look like the master version at all. The paint job doesnt match either... It kinda looks like a repainted don post.
http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2007/MRSneak/image6.asp


This shot is two totally different buckets for boba and tk.... They look much better.
http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2007/MRSneak/image9.asp

Those first two pictures you posted are the mini helmets...

I think that on the first page, the Boba Fett's helmet is a miniature, and the second page is the master of Master Replicas. You can see the difference on the paintjob and the helmet in general. And on the first Boba Fett Helmet Pic, you can see a lightsaber on the rear.

Charly

Yeah I fixed my post. Silly me jumping to conclusions sorry folks.

Man I can only imagine how much they are gonna charge for this one.

Originally Posted by Boba Fett

Man I can only imagine how much they are gonna charge for this one.

Not $120, which is what i paid for a my first mystery helmet on ebay 3 years ago and not $90, which is what I paid for my most recent mystery helmet from Sgt. Fang.

I'm just afraid with the MR helmets coming out, that the private sellers might get the crack down (which would be too bad because they are STILL cheaper and a lot more accurate)

no dis on paintjobs or craftsmanship but low run items are usually nicer than things that require mass production in this hobby


-=QuinN!

If i were to bet, i would say $350-550