New Helmet Maker - *Last Update*

E Vader, your point was brought up before and well, the picture doesn't show the helm well enough but the maker knows about it. No worries though and good catch dude!

Stay safe.

Tim.

Cool! I am a newbie here and I did not remember seeing this brought up in this thread. Once I posted the pic, I re-read the thread, and it was only then that I saw the pencil line on the helmet when the ears had been added. I was only trying to offer some constructive criticism. Anyway, the helmet is looking great and I am anxious to see the finished product.

E. Vader

Thanks very much for all the feedback guys!! And E.Vader, no worries mate!! Appreciate it all!

Guys, I'm sooo excited about this new helmet!! With all the latest refinements, that I still have yet to mention, like some trick rangefinder goodies...it will be without a doubt,
a "Mighty Fine" helmet!



More to come...




take care all,

-Rex

More pics, with the rangefinder, on a solid background. Ears are just taped on, so they may be not aligned perfectly.

Other than the ESB "squint", any other details, refinements you guys can think of? It's otherwise ready to go...

Oh, the caster wants to cast the keyholes seperately, to ensure a crisp casting. It will then be inserted into the helmet.


Thanks,

take care,

-Rex

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Cool, BH.

That is a really nice helmet. It looks strikingly similar to the Movie Size Helmet that's been all the rage? Did he use that as the base for his new sculpt?

fettson wrote:
That is a really nice helmet. It looks strikingly similar to the Movie Size Helmet that's been all the rage? Did he use that as the base for his new sculpt?

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Yah know, I was starting to wonder the very same thing. I mean this bucket has come a long way but it could also explain why it's larger than the MSH's and that the key slots are being done separately. Not to mention that there are actually quite a few things that are very identifiable as well. Bountys Hunted, how well do you know this maker??

Well Paid Killer wrote:

fettson wrote:
That is a really nice helmet. It looks strikingly similar to the Movie Size Helmet that's been all the rage? Did he use that as the base for his new sculpt?

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Yah know, I was starting to wonder the very same thing. I mean this bucket has come a long way but it could also explain why it's larger than the MSH's and that the key slots are being done separately. Bountys Hunted, how well do you know this maker??

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Fettson, WPK, I know the maker and this is his first foray into the costuming/prop world. And incredible as it seems, this helm we're all excited about was scratch built with measurements taken off and converted using just the pictures.

And if you're wondering why it's so damm 'accurate', it's because the maker has professional experience scratch building custom 1/6 armor vechs. For the 1/6 collectors around, you might have seen his pricy work in various dioramas and web stores.

Hope this clears the question up.

Stay safe.

So far, and I haven't read all the replies but...THIS IS THE PRODIGY SON!!! The size, the shape, everything's awesome!!! I agree with the cut to the bottom of the helmet, though. Keep this one updated, looking forward for the painted helmet pics. I can't wait!!!

Maybe I order one from him,...if he decides to make more and sell them.......only time will tell.

Why is everyone talking for this maker, is he not a member and if not he should be! I guess I am just fast to question something so good, don't really mean anything by it. But there are just certain areas on this "first time" helmet that are spot on with the MSHs that could not be found in pictures. I guess thats why I am questioning where some of these details came from. How exactly do you get accurate measurements from a picture?? Nobody knows how big anything is on the original helmet to use as a point of reference to take measurements. It's my understanding that the MSH Maker took laser measurements at an AOSW Exhibit. Although I know that even that is only so accurate, going through plexi and all, but measurements from paper just seems a bit much.

Well, I can't say why he's not a member on here, but having been privy to the pictures of the process from very close to the beginning, I too can vouch that it's not a recast from a movie sized helmet--if it was, it was the worst recast I've ever seen!

What details are you fearing are recast from the MSH helmet exactly? Or, what areas couldn't be found in pictures, because I've got about 5 pictures on my ref CD from just about every possible angle!

How did he get the size right? Well, let's face it, you're making a helmet. It's gotta fit on a head . . that gives you a pretty good ballpark to start in! hehe I've compared his dimensions to my MSH and, like I stated above, he's about a full inch bigger in length.

You were questioning the keyholes . . well, I like to think I've played a bit of a part in that, as I asked him if he'd be willing to do a keyhole area that would fit my movie sized helmet (I dont' have the talent to do it, or else I would have done it myself), as I'm not happy with the keyholes as they came (about my only beef with the bucket too, I might add)

Anyways, hope that helps shine a bit of light on the situation, and calms any fears that it's recast or anything like that. There's no funny business going on . . just a talented guy makin' a bucket with a lot of input to help get it to what you're seeing the pictures of.

Jer

Well Paid Killer wrote:
Why is everyone talking for this maker, is he not a member and if not he should be! I guess I am just fast to question something so good, don't really mean anything by it. But there are just certain areas on this "first time" helmet that are spot on with the MSHs that could not be found in pictures. I guess thats why I am questioning where some of these details came from. How exactly do you get accurate measurements from a picture?? Nobody knows how big anything is on the original helmet to use as a point of reference to take measurements. It's my understanding that the MSH Maker took laser measurements at an AOSW Exhibit. Although I know that even that is only so accurate, going through plexi and all, but measurements from paper just seems a bit much.

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Okay, here's the deal. It's a bit of long story, but I'll try and do the reader's digest version.

Some of you know that I used to work for a toy company. We made mainly 1/6th figures, then later 1/18th & 1/32nd.
I was very active on various 1/6th forums. That's where I met and purchased products from the maker. Our old Design Team told me how they scale up and down weapons, vehicles, etc.
Say they have a 1/35th Tiger tank. Assuming it's accurate...they take loads of measurements and using basic math, scale it up. Same way if they take a actual M-1 rifle or a mini-gun, they measure it, and scale it down to 1/6th scale.

I can't say that I know how to do it, or to even better explain it than that. To them, it was as simple as baking a cake...

The maker of the helmet did the exact same thing. He scaled it off another helmet in a different scale. The most amazing idea, I thought. He scaled it off a Hasbro 1/6th Jango Fett helmet.
Pretty jaw-dropping stuff to me. He was understandably proud how close it was to " accurate-size". As you've read in the above posts,it's a little bigger in a few areas, but not too far off at all.

The ironic thing, is in another 1/6th forum, when the Jango Fett figure first was released, there was much complaining that the helmet was too big...



He considers it a relatively simple task to do. He's the creator of 1/6th German Armored halftracks- 250, 252, various German military vehicles, smaller tanks, etc. He's done American armor, a Dodge Ambulance,even a Sherman tank.


He's doing the keyholes separately, because his fiberglass caster feels he can get a crisper casting this way.

He's making the rangefinder / stalk "wiring-friendly".

That's pretty much all that I've got on this. I'm looking forward to it a great deal. No doubt, more than one will be made.

I'm just trying to convince him to do a jet pack!! There's two of them in that Jango figure box!!



Please, feel free to ask any and all questions you might have.Either here or PM me.

take care all,

-Rex

Keeps getting better Rex. Sounds like a logical explanation to me. Thanks for the pics against the solid background and I think I know the RF goodies you are talkin about. If the keyholes are cast seperate will they also be fiberglass or vac formed. Will the right (rangefinder) earcap be bulit up so that it will meet the helmet and not stick out up top?

I guess that explanation cleared up most of the questions but one, Rex.

And that being; why ISN'T the maker a member, or at least representing himself, here? Would be nice to hear from him at least.

MegalomaniacalMandalore wrote:
why ISN'T the maker a member, or at least representing himself, here? Would be nice to hear from him at least.

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MMM-Absolutely took the words right out of my mouth!!

Boutys Hunted...

Hey man, I hope that you understand where I am coming from with these questions. Better a friend that steps in to ask before anyone else. I too would rather lay to rest any doubt so it doesn't have to come up again on you or who ever is the secret behind this project. That being said, if there are pictures of the earlier stages of the sculpting process, perhaps the "Maker" of this bucket should post those pics. I think that would end a lot of question about this piece once and for all... As the helmet appears from the start of this thread, it looks to be a completed helmet that has been fixed up with bondo and so fourth. Thats why I am suggesting that early pics of it would imply its built from the ground up rather than the modification of another. And if possible please let the maker speak up, its a great looking piece and he should be proud of it!!! Again man let me stress... I am not in anyway trying to rain on what looks to be a job well done or impliment a recaster threat! Just better to get it out there so its a sealed subject.

Just a couple of observations,

For one, Jango's helmet is smaller than Fett's helmet(s). WhoJedi can vouch for this, as I believe he said it was closer in size to a DP Deluxe, though I do not want to misquote him.

The MSH is a groundbreaking helmet. It represents a new dawn of Fett helmets. However, I personally believe the MS helmet is undersized. I know the maker of the MSH stands firmly by his measurements, and that is perfectly fine. And it takes nothing away from from the artistry behind the MSH. However in my research, I believe the ESB helmet to be larger. The impression most people get when they see the film helmets in person is that it is HUGE. We've been conditioned to kiddie-sized Don Posts for so long, it's no wonder anything greatly outside that realm looks too big for us.

The dome and the ears could use some heavy reworking, however that is a heck of a job for scratch built helmet. Keep up the good work.

Tyler Durden what do you think needs to be done to the dome and ears?

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Just a couple of observations,

For one, Jango's helmet is smaller than Fett's helmet(s). WhoJedi can vouch for this, as I believe he said it was closer in size to a DP Deluxe, though I do not want to misquote him.

The MSH is a groundbreaking helmet. It represents a new dawn of Fett helmets. However, I personally believe the MS helmet is undersized. I know the maker of the MSH stands firmly by his measurements, and that is perfectly fine. And it takes nothing away from from the artistry behind the MSH. However in my research, I believe the ESB helmet to be larger. The impression most people get when they see the film helmets in person is that it is HUGE. We've been conditioned to kiddie-sized Don Posts for so long, it's no wonder anything greatly outside that realm looks too big for us.

The dome and the ears could use some heavy reworking, however that is a heck of a job for scratch built helmet. Keep up the good work.

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The new helmet is loking very nice!!!!

I know exactly what the sculptor must be going through trying to match the helmet to the pics.

It changes shape depending on the angle of the pic & distance from the camera, its one hell of a challenge to sculpt the helmet.

Tyler, the helmet that was on display at the AOSW wasnt near as big i had expected. To be honest i believe its the camera angles/lenses that made the helmet appear so wide on screen.
Alot of the camera work appears to have been done with wide angle lenses when fett is on screen.

If you want i can post how i got the dimension & what the size is.

Thanks
Nathan

Thanks Tyler for the feedback- Are the ears too skinny, flat, or??

Natty, thanks man!! Appreciate it!



As to some of the questions...

1) The maker is a member of TDH- How else would he have the passion to create such a helmet?

2) As to the maker's anonimity, for now that's the way it is, although it may change. He prefers it this way, so he's not inudated with emails and PM's. He just prefers to remain behind the scenes. In his other business, he has four clients who handle orders/questions/ options, etc.
That's the way the helmet is too. I'm the pointman.



It's ironic how this came to be. Awhile back, I mentioned to him how much I would like a larger helmet...

I think I'm going to mention a jet pack next!

Ok, Rex. Thanks for the reply.

While you're at it, mention how this short bald guy needs a really cool truck because his is getting used up.