NEW!! Fettpride Bucket aka "FPH" !!

In talking with Lee at length he also said the same thing in regards to shrinkage..."less than the thickness of human hair"....I kinda didn't follow/ understand that whole theory??
Do you think way back when Lee's current Plug was made that "shrinkage" was even a concern for the makers of that mold?
And if not, then there would be a slight possibillty of what is known to occur in the prop community as some level of shrinkage, no?

I mean I know there are better products out now that can prevent any type of Shrinkage, but back then?? did they really consider all that?
I don't think its to ridiculas or to far fetched to make the assumption on the products they used back then that "MIGHT" cause some type of Shrinkage? It's Kinda a valid question when speaking in terms of exact accuracy....

Again I think Unless you've seen the real deal up close, I think most people would be surprised on how big it really was in person....

I say we go to London and do an "Oceans 11" and take the thing!!:lol:
 
I think you mean Ocean's 12 since that is where they steal the egg thing. And if you remember correctally they got caught when they tried to do it at the museum. They stole the real thing while it was being transported. I some how doubt the Fett helmet is being transported in a backpack on a train.

Further I think the oppterunity to "Ocean's 12" it would have been at CIV. Really how hard would it have been to just swap out one of Justin's or Jason's helmets for the real deal? No glass and minimal security. No one would have noticed until it was time to pack the thing up. Call it an oppterunity lost my friends.
 
I'm with SingleSeat. As far as RS's plug is concerned... that's the damned closest thing to the original size as you'll find.
 
Spideyfett said:
In talking with Lee at length he also said the same thing in regards to shrinkage..."less than the thickness of human hair"....I kinda didn't follow/ understand that whole theory??
Do you think way back when Lee's current Plug was made that "shrinkage" was even a concern for the makers of that mold?
And if not, then there would be a slight possibillty of what is known to occur in the prop community as some level of shrinkage, no?

I mean I know there are better products out now that can prevent any type of Shrinkage, but back then?? did they really consider all that?
I don't think its to ridiculas or to far fetched to make the assumption on the products they used back then that "MIGHT" cause some type of Shrinkage? It's Kinda a valid question when speaking in terms of exact accuracy....
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About "human hair," I'm not saying it because Lee said it. I'm saying it because the numbers and percentages say it. Higher math is the language of the universe and I'll trust it before I'll believe what you say about tottering on a foot stool next to the real prop and holding another bucket in the air. For your own sanity, just stop trying to discredit the guy's helmet. Be happy with the project you have going here.

Spideyfett said:
Again I think Unless you've seen the real deal up close....
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You're really wearing me out with that man (definitely need to hear a new chorus). It just doesn't hold up under a caliper and it really doesn't hold up with known dimensions to cross-check.
 
SingleSeat said:
I guess that depends on what you mean by "shrinkage." If you sit two helmets beside each other and see differences -- that's what you can measure with a ruler. I think the MS1 and S/F mysteries are fairly safe in the qualities of their lineage -- however modified lineage they may be.

Where's Lee on this one? I know enough to vouch for now, that fortunately for RS, he had the best industry men on the job with this one (why wouldn't he?), so no, IF (and that's a BIG "IF") there was shrinkage it would be in the undetectable thousanths upon thousanths. We're talking less than the thickness of human hair. That plug wasn't just a bit of work from someone's garage, that much is apparent now. I heard that shrinkage rumor a long time ago, and not only do I not agree, but digital measuring instruments disagree too. That thing has been through so much scrutiny it's rediculous. When you add found parts, the measurements are identical. I'm a patient pefectionist type, and I've got to hand it to that plug, RS is a lucky dude.
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I would love to hear Lees thoughts on that. Having never seen the plug, never seen posted measurments of the plug... I can only speculate. But I agree that Lee would know better as he has done a battery of tests and measurements on that thing.
 
WOW, did I hit a nerve or something???:lol:

Look, like it or not they are VALID questions....I don't see where I was trying to discredit anyone?? heck I even talked to Lee about the same types of things.....and trust me, it was more than a civil discussion....but it doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

When it comes down to it unless you have exhibit A helmet in front of you, VS. "EXHIBIT" B helmet....then WE will all never really know...

Again sorry that my valid questions bother you...but please for the sake of the thread please leave your comments TO ME directed in PM only.....as you never returned my last PM to you.....no point in ruining another thread SS.

Thanks SS

and for the record, I've actually seen the real thing, in person.;)
 
evan4218 said:
I would love to hear Lees thoughts on that. Having never seen the plug, never seen posted measurments of the plug... I can only speculate. But I agree that Lee would know better as he has done a battery of tests and measurements on that thing.
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hmm. I thought it was posted around here somewhere a few years ago. Sure the plug is nice and all, but I don't want to pull the thread too far away from the FPH. nudge, nudge. I'm sure everyone would still like to see more mystery-comparison whenever possible.
 
Spideyfett said:
...please for the sake of the thread please leave your comments TO ME directed in PM only.....as you never returned my last PM to you.....
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That's because you're the sole member of SingleSeat's vBulleten Ignor List, so I never received that PM after I told you to get out of my office the other day. I guess I couldn't hear you were still talking after the door closed, but, no, we're not going to PM anymore, and now I'm just going to stop answering you and let you exist peacefully in your own world.
 
SingleSeat said:
hmm. I thought it was posted around here somewhere a few years ago. Sure the plug is nice and all, but I don't want to pull the thread too far away from the FPH. nudge, nudge. I'm sure everyone would still like to see more mystery-comparison whenever possible.
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Good point SS. ;)

What as far as Mystery Helmets go is the closest to the real deal in lineage? I always believed that the MS1 was more so then the Sgn Fang. But I could be wrong. I just believed they came from different sources with the same origin. If that is true we want to compare this FPH to the MS1.
 
evan4218 said:
What as far as Mystery Helmets go is the closest to the real deal in lineage? I always believed that the MS1 was more so then the Sgn Fang. But I could be wrong. I just believed they came from different sources with the same origin. If that is true we want to compare this FPH to the MS1.
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Impossible to say for sure. Both were simply bought off eBay by their "owners" with no true knowledge of their history.... :( If possible, compare it to both. No such thing as too much information or too many pics.
 
Brak's Buddy said:
Impossible to say for sure. Both were simply bought off eBay by their "owners" with no true knowledge of their history.... :( If possible, compare it to both. No such thing as too much information or too many pics.
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Good point. From the comparisons I have done between the MS1 and the Sarge, the Sarge seems a tad smaller... this could be from sanding and remastering... and from additional generations of recastings... but no way to be sure. Once we get a pull of the final FPH helmet I will make sure we get some picks of it next to each of those. :)
 
Ok I'm here. Well uh errr where to begin. As Chris said forget the shrinkage thing the piece was cast in ultracal which has some of the lowest shrinkage percentage of anything you could have cast it from. Chris has a copy of my helmet (there I let the cat out of the bag) so he has looked it over. I think you guys did a gret job on this one and I'm very happy folks have another good helmet to add to their collections.
 
I thought your plug was bronze? Hmm... not sure where I herd it was bronze but oh well... that just means I was wrong. LOL :) Thanks for the info Lee.
 
Rogue Studios said:
Ok I'm here. Well uh errr where to begin. As Chris said forget the shrinkage thing the piece was cast in ultracal which has some of the lowest shrinkage percentage of anything you could have cast it from. Chris has a copy of my helmet (there I let the cat out of the bag) so he has looked it over. I think you guys did a gret job on this one and I'm very happy folks have another good helmet to add to their collections.
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The ultimate goal for us is to get it right..period. So these types of questions came about to insure we cover all aspects of size and shape..nothing more.


BRAK'S PM SENT...sorry bro my phone died!!:(
 
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