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Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

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    Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    We had a couple warm days here in Alberta last week, so I thought I'd take advantage of them. I've had a FPH2 sitting in my closet since I received it last summer, and an old Asok/FP Budget helmet that I never really got around to working on. The Asok helm has a pretty severe crack in the left cheek from the visor halfway down the cheek. So far, it's only in the cold-cast layer and not the resin underneath.

    I reinforced both helmets around the visor with a little steel epoxied between the cheeks. This should keep them from doing funky things, like warping or cracking, I hope. I then cut out the visor on the FPH2 and cleaned it up with a Dremel, just in time to lay down some Floquil Concrete through the airbrush on the rear panels of both helmets.

    The next warm day, I resized the RafalFett ESB helmet paint templates to both helmets, went to town with the tracing paper and maskoid, and put down superjedi's recipe for the green: 60-70 drops of BAR Blue and an entire paint pot of Testors Model Master Acryl Euro Dark Green. After removing the masking fluid...


    By the end of the evening, I was pretty flippin' cross-eyed.
    Try as I might, I can never get the masking fluid to peel off nicely; I get tiny flakes of the top colour all over the bottom colour! Everyone swears by the Humbrol Maskol, but I can never find it around here. I've tried a few peeling techniques, including mastic and gum erasers.

    I went in with a small brush and thinned versions of the Concrete and green blend to touch up any mistakes and get rid of the random green flakes. One week later...

    The FPH2 is on the left, and the Asok Budget is on the right. Cheers!

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    It looks great so far!

    When you said that you re-sized the stencils for both helmets, how much you had to modify for the FPH2 and the Asok? Are these differences major or just a few mm here and there?

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Wow, a double helmet project?? It's madness!

    I'm curious about Rafal's question about the size differences, too.

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Will you be installing the rf light kit in the fph2?

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Of course, Jc! I sent a FB msg to Chris at FettPride for a hollow aluminum one (and one of the new FPH2 T-visors to boot). However, I'm also eagerly waiting for Dakota's new FPH2 aluminum ear sets. Hopefully he has a space for the microswitch...

    As for resizing the templates, I don't really know how much I lost as a percent; I used the Skew and Free Transform functions on PhotoShop, so therte was no straight-on width or height loss per se. I resized the Rafal templates for the Budget helmet first (it's rear panels are larger). I would say that I lost 3-5 mm in width and 1-3 mm in height.
    As for the FPH2, I think I may have lost 1-2 cm (not mm!!) in width, and a few mm in height to get them to fit perfectly. As well, there was some 'stretching' I had to do to get them to fit.
    I used a trial-and-error method of resizing, draft printing, cutting it out, then seeing if it would fit. I would say it took 10 or so tries per panel per helmet (40 attempts total).

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    Ah, good info. Thanks! A couple of my upcoming commissions are for FPH2s and
    I was wondering what kind of size difference I'd be working with.
    1-2 cm is quite a difference in width! Looks like I'll be creating a new set of stencils.

    BTW, the unevenness of your dark green looks great! Nice airbrush work.

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    And it was totally done on purpose, as per the AOSW Barbican ref. images. Thanks!

    What's your go-to bank for reference ESB Helmet images, everyone?

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    I've collected a lot of reference shots over the years, but this gallery contains
    a lot of the ones that I use on my ESB paint ups:

    Art of Star Wars 2002-07-10 - The Dented Helmet Gallery

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    What should I use for the light gray spots that are mixed into the silver areas? Should it be a transparent, translucent, or opaque layer of color over the silver?

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Necronaut said: View Post
    What should I use for the light gray spots that are mixed into the silver areas? Should it be a transparent, translucent, or opaque layer of color over the silver?
    That color should go under the silver, because it is the base color (possibly the primer), this is why it's an opaque color.

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Agree with Rafal, but being a topical painter, I add that light gray at the end of my paint jobs.
    I use a craft acrylic paint called Blue Wisp (can't remember the brand off the top of my head) and I put it on undiluted.

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Thanks guys. I used a light blue Vallejo Model Color, heavily diluted on my first helmet for these bits. Speaking of helmets...

    I've blocked in all of the gray parts. There's not much silver on this side of the helmet, so the finish line is in sight.

    I'm considering doing the FPH2 as an ESB movie era helmet, and the Budget helmet as a more modern version at the ESB helmet, with the warts, scratches, ink & glue stains and all.

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Great work!
    Interesting idea about doing a screen used versus exhibit helmet. Lots of extra
    damage on the exhibit helmet.

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Got some silver up on these buckets...

    This one is the FPH2.

    And here's the Asok CC:


    I originally used PollyScale Piston Silver for my old GMH, but I was never satisfied with its ability to cover underlying colours. For these panels, I'm currently using the old Testors Metallic Silver. I haven't touched one of these square bottles since I was sniffing glue and building airplane models as a kid. I find that it's got a better ability to cover over underlying colours with only a single coat.

    But I may be turning over to the dark side for the rest of these helmets and doing a layered painting approach, starting with silver, then gray, then green. Oh my stars!

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    humbrol silver is about the same consistency but doesnt leave any texture....also like model masters silver...

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Looking good but. . .

    Necronaut said: View Post
    But I may be turning over to the dark side for the rest of these helmets and doing a layered painting approach, starting with silver, then gray, then green. Oh my stars!
    Noooooooooooo!!!

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Yeah, I'm having a tough time getting a consistent, smooth look out of my brush-on silver.

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Necronaut said: View Post
    Yeah, I'm having a tough time getting a consistent, smooth look out of my brush-on silver.
    Then talk with this master:

    superjedi said: View Post
    Looking good but. . .

    Noooooooooooo!!!
    By the way, those back plates looks amazing! keep up the great work!

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Finished the FPH2 backplate as per the movie, except for the base gray inside the silver areas:


    The Asok backplate has most of its scratches, but I don't have any of the base gray, gray primer, or ink stains on yet:

    I used a piece of 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper to create some of the lightening and uneven-ness in the blue/gray layer of paint, as per the AOSW pics I used.

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    You're rockin this paint up man, Bravo!

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Did you get the hollow stalk yet?

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    Not yet. No reply from FP on Facebook. I tried twice....

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    More Progress:

    I cheated a bit and used my panel templates to draw out where the bigger gray parts were in the giant mass of silver paint before laying down any other paint.

    It will hopefully make the relative size and placement of the rest of the paint in the silver easier and more accurate. Here's the FPH2.

    And here's the Budget helmet.

    Cheers!

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Nice! I paint on some gray "landmarks" before painting that big expanse of silver, too.
    Makes it easier to go back and do all the really small chips and scratches.

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    Re: Necro's FPH2 and Asok in ESB

    Looks great man! When i did mine, it was layered and quite a bit of work...and i was trying to work quickly so i could troop my Fett again...when i get my FPH2, im going to go alot slower...i want it dead on!

    This is coming out great bud! Im glad the templates fit well also...on mine they were a little off because my helmet(DVH) is a little off in proportions

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