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    MY MS2

    UPDATED SATURDAY 09/03/05
    Well, this is my newest Baby...Just getting her ready for PRIMER...
    I've done a couple of modifications here and there, lots of Bondo. It had a higher than normal dome but I did some severe Dremeling and Sanding on the top of this thing..Still could use a little more, but over all this the BEST MOST BEAUTIFUL Bucket I have ever owned. Well Worth it...(Thanks Marrow)

    I will be Posting updated pics through out....
    Ready or not here it goes...



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    I'll look forward to seeing the finished product,but I don't envy you on the in between Those paintjobs are a killer to ones spare time.


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    I enjoy the painting. Mostly touchups and weathering though. It gives me something to do. What sucks is waiting for coats to dry. Yep.

    Great bucket, though. I love it. I actually kind of like the higher dome, too. It definately doesn't make it look worse!

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    Wow, very nice... I envy you!

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    I can't wait to see it all finished up. It already looks like the MS_2 needs alot less bondo than the MS_1. I can really see how he cleaned everything up. Awesome bucket.

    I am currently working on my MS_1 and it is just eating up the bondo for dinner (a little over exaggeration there). Filling all the seams and pock marks is tedious work. I gotta say I love it though. I love it so much I just ordered my second MS_1 bucket. Wish I had jumped on the MS_2 when I had the chance. Maybe more will be offered. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

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    That is a nice looking helmet

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    AHHH Primer!!!8)
    Thought I'd keep up with this thread with more pictures...

    My Goal is to show every stage."Hopefully".....Mainly to give, those that need it most, a "visual aid" if you will.
    I should start painting this weekend...or later this week. Of Course ESB scheme .
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    That paint job looks. . . I dunno. . . a little bland. Maybe some greens and dark reds?
    Just a suggestion.

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    If your doing the Layering methode you might want to use a black primer before the metallic paint for better effect. I was given this suggestion and does seem to make a more realistic metal look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spideyfett
    AHHH Primer!!!8)
    Thought I'd keep up with this thread with more pictures...

    My Goal is to show every stage."Hopefully".....Mainly to give, those that need it most, a "visual aid" if you will.
    I should start painting this weekend...or later this week. Of Course ESB scheme .

    Thanks alot for doing that, I am going to try this. My first helmet paint job isnt so good I think mainly because I used U.S. medium green and its to dark. But thats all I had at the time and after I did my armor I figured why not, that was before I wanted to be more accurate.

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    "HOUSTON... WE HAVE A VISOR!!!!"...
    Did some additional work on some rough spots and installed the VISOR...
    I like to install the visor at this point, before the real painting begins.
    To me the mess of cutting through fiberglass after you have painted everything is not the way to go..I'd rather just Mask the Visor off and do all the Structural work now. Kinda like body work on a car. For those who have done that before.
    Anyway....



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    I was wondering at what point I needed to dremel out the visor and install it. This helps! BTW, great looking helmet so far! Judging from your previous work, I can't wait to see the finished product!

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    Can you say "Chrome Dome"..

    I put two costs of Testors Chrome #1209..
    You must be very careful with this stuff, as it builds up quickly and **over spraying is a very easy mistake...
    I like to use Testors Chrome because it hardens very well....
    Of course this is the base color of the topical paint scheme I'll be doing...and I use chrome instead of Bright Silver because at the end will go a flat coating...... and well the chrome just holds that "Shine" better..

    I've included a pic of the reworked dent I did...the Lighting makes it really hard to see..
    So please excuse my bad photography skills..

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    Excellent work,


    Im jealous !! ...some day soon I will have my own. I hope

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    Ok, I'm with you so far I got my helmet and cleaned it up, added the scars for the ROTJ version. Sprayed it chrome with Duplicolor engine enamel chrome. I used that for my guantlets to and it seemed to be tougher than regualr paint for the chipping process.

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    Re: MY MS2

    I like to get that started on my MS2 my self, however it's been over a month and I still haven't gotten mine.

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    It's coming bud! Hang tight! Its on its way.

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    Holding my breath...I've heard nothing but great things about your helmet MarrowSun

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    Hey Marrow .... dont forget me !!!


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    Marrows helmets are definitely worth waiting for, trust me

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    I've just ordered one too! Can't wait.
    I have a question for those who've built up fiberglass helmets before.
    What's the main reason you guys install the visor prior to painting? Seems like there would be a lot greater chance of messing up the visor when it's installed during all the painting/weathering.
    Is there anyone who has waited to install it until after painting?
    Just curious about different viewpoints.
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    I personally never install the visor until I'm totally done painting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superjedi
    I've just ordered one too! Can't wait.
    I have a question for those who've built up fiberglass helmets before.
    What's the main reason you guys install the visor prior to painting? Seems like there would be a lot greater chance of messing up the visor when it's installed during all the painting/weathering.
    Is there anyone who has waited to install it until after painting?
    Just curious about different viewpoints.
    Eric
    FOR ME since I've done four of these...Mainly THREE Reasons:
    1. For Durability..there is potential for the Fiberglass to Crack when there is no support in the visor area once cut...That's my biggest reason, because it happened to me TWICE.
    2. And as I stated before it can get very messy to try and cut the visor and install after you have painted your bucket..intern poetically ruining your paint job with all the Grabbing while hot glueing or screwing , which ever method you choose to use...
    3. I've done it this way for three of the four helmets and It's worked out every time...With NO Scratches. Of course I masked with lots of LOW TACK Masking TAPE ON BOTH-SIDES , in and out.

    I guess its all on what works for you..
    I say try what's easiest for YOU, because I don't think there is a WRONG or Right way on something like this...
    Does that help.????
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    Okay Moving On..

    MASKING FLUID...I say NO to mustard...Just my opinion.

    THIS IS WHERE THE HIGH RES REFERENCE MATERIAL COMES IN.

    This, to me, is the most under-rated steps..
    Normally I would draw the the scratches first, but for this I'll just apply it Per the REF PICS with different size paint brushes..I do recommend drawing them on lightly first though.

    The fluid does tend to build up on the brush...remove the build up throughout, making sure your brush is pretty clean..This makes each application easier..

    The reason I like this stuff is because:
    1. It dries fast
    2. If you mess up or don't think it looks right then just let it dry and take it right off and reapply.
    3. And the detail you can get with this stuff is great.
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    Thanks Marrow and Spidey!
    Now I know I will absolutely install the visor either before or after painting!
    Wait. . . that's not right.
    I guess I'll prolly do it before, because of the "support" factor.
    Eric

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    Nice pics bud! I tried the 'scratch off' method with a toothpick, and it kept going down to the gelcoat, even after much sanding, priming, chrome, and drying. I've started using liquid mask on most parts now, and I cant wait to see how it turns out for you on the helmet.

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    Thank you ! Thank you !

    Keep the updates coming, I'm watching every step.

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    where do you get the mask, and in what isle?

    what stage are you doing first, just the chrome parts that show?

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    Thanks very much for documenting your work step by step. The visuals will be very helpful for my noobly self.

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    Exactly what I was thinkin Broken.

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    Hey Spidey, We met at the Wal-Mart during the 48 hours of SW. I have the same bucket and was about to offer it back up for sale but yours does not look as "tall" as mine does. How did you correct the shape on top? I have not touched mine yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARROW SUN
    It's coming bud! Hang tight! Its on its way.
    I thought he MS2 was a limited run of 10? Are you making more now?

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    I made 15 in total. 3 for me, 2 for friends and 10 for sale. I've sold all that I've made now. I do believe I remembered to number all the helmet on the inside?! Is yours not numbered? By the way I have someone wanting a MS2 so if you don't want your helmet anymore I have a potential customer that would like it.

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    MS2s are nice wishi could get ahold of one.. lol is it me or doesa solid chrome boba just sound sexah? (i know my ex would love it.. shiny.. and boba) i might chrome one someday for the hell of it. helms lookin good man.

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    Ummm shiny Boba helmet sounds alittle like Jango doesn't it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARROW SUN
    I sale. I've sold all that I've made now. I do believe I remembered to number all the helmet on the inside?!
    BAM!!!! #5 of 15 for mine woo-woo thanks again, just sent it off to get painted...post pics soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett669
    Hey Spidey, We met at the Wal-Mart during the 48 hours of SW. I have the same bucket and was about to offer it back up for sale but yours does not look as "tall" as mine does. How did you correct the shape on top? I have not touched mine yet.
    Hey , I should see you at Dallas Comic-Con Too...

    I did A LOT of Sanding ...Different Grades of sand paper......No wet sanding. STILL COULD USE a Little MORE.
    Those that own one of these know that the thickness of the MS2 is SO MUCH MORE compared to the MS....
    Once I started to see VERY Tiny BUBBLES on the top I knew it was time to stop sanding.....I ended up filling them with Bondo though...
    AND if you haven't noticed I moved in the Mandibles in to make the visor not So wide and more parallel......With a Heat GUN, (be careful with that, could distort your Helmet)

    P.S MARROW I'm # 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by cal196
    where do you get the mask, and in what isle?

    what stage are you doing first, just the chrome parts that show?
    Michael's Arts and Craft...Any Craft's store that has a Water Color Section...
    I use Winsor & Newton's "Colourless" Masking Fluid...It's been posted somewhere here before..

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    THE FUN PART...PAINTING.

    I want to Say that I use ROGUE STUDIOS :thumbup stuff as a Guide when it comes to paint selection and methods...It's proven THE MOST ACCURATE. And anyone who has seen his Helmets knows what I'm talking about.

    So Before I start Posting All these pics of the Painting Process you need to know what the heck kinda paints to use...It also includes some methods to use. Check it out.

    Here's the Link: [color=#22229c]http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=3630&highlight=ROTJ+Paint[/color]


    HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS I USE TO PAINT WITH...
    INVEST IN A GOOD AIRBRUSH.....Or TWO.
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    Now that we know what we are using to paint with......the Painting.

    MASKING with a LOW TACK Tape will allow you to tape right over the masking fliud areas...If it lifts off when it's time to remove then you can always reapply....I LOVE this stuff.
    I Mask and paint the DOME and under Cheeks first...as every one seems to do.
    I like to use NEWS PRINT to help mask...It bends really easy.

    I use Panzer Olive Green right out of the Bottle for the 1st Coat...a little Acrylic thinner if it's too thick.
    I apply only 2 to 3 SOLID coats ..Waiting at least 20-30 minutes between coats.

    The Panzer Green Color tends to dry DARK.....This is a Good thing because we will then spray a "MIST" of Panzer Green and Ital. C GR MIX. This gives it that "light look" in some areas per the Reference Photos..
    The MIST of this mix should not be thick, and Spraying should be a good distance away and low pressure on your Air Brush..a well lighted room will enable you to see the application.

    CHECK IT OUT!!
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    Well I've been checking these forums out for quite awhile now and figured I should just register allready.. but anyway..

    You couldn't have started this thread at a better time for me, since I'm getting ready to paint my Bobamaker Helm.. Looking forward to the updates.. This should help out alot..

    Lookin nice so far.. Although I did kinda like that Chrome look.

    Tension

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    After removing the Masked Area I found that some of the panzer green lifted .
    Mistakes happen....Learn from them I say.

    SO rather than remask for the lower cheeks I just decided to paint them by hand....YES by hand.

    I use a Grayish Black mix....More to my liking.....Not to dark and not to light..
    I try to stay very close to the Ref Photos...all the one's I've seen look really DARK GRIMY GRAY....HINT HINT .

    Rogue Studios calls for a "* PRR Green (Inside cheeks)" (Looks DARK), that works good too.



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    the lifting happened around the WHOLE crown of my blasted helmet, so don't feel alone. I painted by hand a thin layer first. I waited until that dried then came at it again, for about four layers (waiting in between to dry). After the washes, you don't even know its there and that's even with my OWN eye !

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    OOPS..... ...I forgot to take pictures of the "Masked" Red Mandibles....
    Just mask as I did the green and spray at least 2 Coats of Box Car Red. I like to Darken it up a little then Spay a Mist Color of the Box Car RED Color straight from the bottle... as per the HIGH RES REF Photos..

    Any hoo...I started to Remove some of the Masking Fluid... **THIS STAGE CAN GET VERY MESSY.
    I USE A RUBBER CEMENT PICK UP.( It's the Ugly thing I'm holding)
    Right away I started to Lift more than just the masked areas....(I've Highlighted the main areas I MESSED-up on)...
    Then the rest of the pics show where I fixed them by Hand painting.

    I then, as stated earlier, MISTED (sp) with the lighter tone of red....I USED AN AIR-BRUSH FOR THIS PART....My air Brush gets really tight and small, so not to get on the other painted areas...
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    Awesome job SPidey, it;s comming along nicely.Due to my total lack of artistic talent I had a fellow member ( thanks AFFo$s ) do a bang up ESB job for me. heres a few snaps of my MS2





    The FINAL product




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    cool AFFOD can do a comparison of the MS2 and MS. mine is the one next to yours

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    Looks great, now I've seen both the ESB and ROTJ themes completed. Now get that visor in place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARROW SUN
    Looks great, now I've seen both the ESB and ROTJ themes completed. Now get that visor in place!
    SIR , YES SIR !!!!......
    Ive been in contact with BobaMaker in regards to one

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobaFettSlave_1
    cool AFFOD can do a comparison of the MS2 and MS. mine is the one next to yours
    Niiiiiiice . $'s sent me a comparison shot just the other week. my fat head will fit nice with a hardhat liner or something.

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    Once I paint the Green I tend to get bored so I start painting some of the Detail Scratches....Mainly the "GRAY Scratches".....
    I paint these TOPICALLY with a ZERO Sized Sable Brush...It gives me the different Gray thickness I'm looking for on each Scratch.
    I like to Copy straight from the REF Photos, But It's recommended that you Draw them on if your painting skills aren't the best. This way you don't get lost and paint the same thing twice...

    *** Be sure to use the Lighter GRAY on the Mandibles/ Red Area. DUH!!

    And don't worry the Back of the Bucket is coming....
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    show me some back, baby !

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    YOUR Bucket looks Great...

    But No Offense, Hijacking someone's thread isn't cool...
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    how thin do you mix the paint so you cant see brush strokes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cal196
    how thin do you mix the paint so you cant see brush strokes?
    I try to keep it the same consistency throughout...Not to thick and not too thin...
    In regards to the Gray Scratches, If it doesn't just flow off your brush without having to apply a second coat it's too thin...
    Hope that help...sorry

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    I know that when going from dark to light brush strokes are a problem but wasnt sure on dark to light.

    Oh ya where do you get that sponge square thing looked all over Michael's and asked and turned over every rock and didnt find anything.

    Thanks agian Spidey this is helping alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cal196
    I know that when going from dark to light brush strokes are a problem but wasnt sure on dark to light.

    Oh ya where do you get that sponge square thing looked all over Michael's and asked and turned over every rock and didnt find anything.

    Thanks agian Spidey this is helping alot.
    No Problem... Glad it's helping...that's my goal in this..
    It's Called a Rubber Cement Pickup.....Normally it's where they have the Rubber Cement or Glues Section...It actually looks allot Whiter when brand-new..Mines a little used..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spideyfett
    YOUR Bucket looks Great...

    But No Offense, Hijacking someone's thread isn't cool...
    Sorry Spidey, wasn't trying to Hijack OR step on any toespikes. Just thought Id share the MS2 love that im feeling.

    again, sorry if I offended you

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    p.s. Mirax.........im working on the banner

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadPirateRoberts
    Sorry Spidey, wasn't trying to Hijack OR step on any toespikes. Just thought Id share the MS2 love that im feeling.

    again, sorry if I offended you

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    Your Cool...It wasn't meant for you..
    "WE $$" straightened it out..

    Keep Posting..Your BUCKET IS PAINTED AWESOME....
    Got a VISOR IN YET???

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    Spidey - Where are the updates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Fett
    Spidey - Where are the updates?
    Sorry ALL....
    I've be working on other projects. I will continue this thread soon...WITH LOTS OF PICS!!!
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    My local Michael's does not offer a Rubber Cement pick up, but the guy there said a kneaded rubber eraser was very close, will that work? its fairly sticky.

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    Actually no, that won't work..
    You might want to try Walmart.
    I'll find a link....
    Quote Originally Posted by cal196
    My local Michael's does not offer a Rubber Cement pick up, but the guy there said a kneaded rubber eraser was very close, will that work? its fairly sticky.

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    This is great!! Thanks so much for posting your progress. This is really gonna help me out! :thumbup
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    IS this it?

    https://www.currys.com/drafting/prod...ID=140&catID=9


    Or this? I got this from Wal-Mart near the rubber cement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cal196
    IS this it?

    https://www.currys.com/drafting/prod...ID=140&catID=9


    Or this? I got this from Wal-Mart near the rubber cement.
    BINGO!!!!!

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    Sorry I've been away.....Other Projects...

    I took these pics some time back and never posted them...

    1. I've hand painted the custom mix Maroon Color Scratches....
    On the color mix I simply used PACEMAKER RED and a MIX of Purple to darken the RED to the dark Maroon color....It dried a little light but you can always add more Purple to darken. Be sure to test the way it dries first BEFORE Appling.

    2. I used an Exacto-Knife to make some of the hair-line scratches on the bucket...a Razor is good for this too.....REFERENCE PHOTOS REFERENCE PHOTO!!!

    3. I also use a Metallic Sharpie (THIN AND THICK SIZE) for the rest of the silver scratches,with the purpose of cleaning up the silver areas to match the reffernce photos, Applying Topically............

    AGAIN THE BACK IS IT'S OWN MONSTER ...I should tackle that soon.
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    That looks really really nice man. You are a very talented individual (especially talented to be able to work with the right hand and simutaniously take pics with the left ). Really awesome work! Can't wait to see the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kripps
    That looks really really nice man. You are a very talented individual (especially talented to be able to work with the right hand and simutaniously take pics with the left ). Really awesome work! Can't wait to see the back.

    TALENT???...It's Called "A TIMER ON MY CAMERA and mounted on a Tri-pod".

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    Been looking forward to the update.. Looks awesome so far.. Really looking forward to seeing the back.. great tutorial so far..

    Quick question about the masking.. How long do you usually wait until you lift off the masked parts? Is it better to lift somewhat soon after the paint dries? Would waiting it out a little longer reduce the risk of more paint lifting off along with it ? or would that just make the whole process even more difficult...

    btw, the Michael's near me didn't have the rubber cement pickup either, but I did find it over at A.C Moore, If anyone has one local to them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tension113
    Been looking forward to the update.. Looks awesome so far.. Really looking forward to seeing the back.. great tutorial so far..

    Quick question about the masking.. How long do you usually wait until you lift off the masked parts? Is it better to lift somewhat soon after the paint dries? Would waiting it out a little longer reduce the risk of more paint lifting off along with it ? or would that just make the whole process even more difficult...

    btw, the Michael's near me didn't have the rubber cement pickup either, but I did find it over at A.C Moore, If anyone has one local to them..
    I like to let things dry pretty much a good day or so before lifting.....
    Actually I've tried lifting the Fluid both a few hrs after and a whole week after...both worked just fine..
    *** if for some reason you can't Lift certain sections of the masked area because the paint is too hard, then just use an Exacto to chip the paint, THEN continue lifting with the Rubber Cement Pick up on that area. Will come right up***Works great.

    Hope that helps..

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    WOW, I haven't been in this forum for a while (in 2 months or more, maybe), due to a web filter that the military has.

    Marrow Sun, please, send me PM for info on this helmet.

    Robert

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    Thats looking great, cant wait to see the finished article!!!

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    Well I had to sand mine back down because the gray paint spilled on it so I'm back to square one.
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    Well Catch up!!!!.. .I mean take your time.

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    Thanks so much spidey, your the inspiration to this, and although I realize its not screen accurate I am liking my results from my very first ESB paintjob. Here is a much better picture.
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    Hey CAl that is JUST AWESOME!!!......Seriously your painting skills are right -on!!! ...

    Keep us posted..

    Quote Originally Posted by cal196
    Thanks so much spidey, your the inspiration to this, and although I realize its not screen accurate I am liking my results from my very first ESB paintjob. Here is a much better picture.

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    Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's ******* AWESOME!

    How many man hours did you put into that paint job, because it looks like the dogs bollocks!

    I love the scorched look around the dent. Very nicely done.

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    Thanks Guys. I suggest anyone that is going to do this to look over this thread carefully. I didnt know what to do before Spidey posted this. That is about a month of painting about an hour a day. The back of the helmet is blank though. And I am very hesitant to put and tape on it to do the kill marks and I cant find any pinstriping in the color I need.

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    Darrin theres a guy on ebay who does the decals for the ESB helmet! I got a set mainly for the 'ears' but theres also a set of yellow kill stripes, theres no battle damage on them but that isn't a problem. The auction is for Visor and decals but drop him a email and he'll sort you out the decals only. Got mine a few days ago, very pleased with the quality.

    Hope that helps

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    I got the decals and there all on, but what about the back.......Dont leave me hangin Spidey. -pun intended-

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    Quote Originally Posted by cal196
    I got the decals and there all on, but what about the back.......Dont leave me hangin Spidey. -pun intended-

    Sorry Cal...I've been really busy with the new House and other Projects..
    I will post BACK and Stripe "How too's" soon..

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    back to the top, you never finished this man...

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    Aw man........got all excited thinking this thread got updated

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    gimme some back spidey, once you're done with this, I am going to save this thing as a whole for my records !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Got Maul
    back to the top, you never finished this man...
    Sorry guys, should finish this soon, SERIOUSLY...
    Been dealing with some "Real Life" stuff...

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    When I first started this thread I was in the Mind-Set that I would help out the Fellow Member that didn't really know how to get from A to B when painting a Fett Bucket....Anyone who has been around long enough knows that these Techniques are Basically are already out there....... with the Credit to People Like FETT PRIDE, Rogue Studios, Steve the SWEDE, Braks Buddy.....to me these people have done all, if not all, the Leg work in all things known to FETT, with a few others.."Credit where credit is due":thumbup .
    So with a few of my own techniques I thought This is gonna be SO Helpful and fun....very simple concept right? SO I thought.

    Well to my amazement I was shocked to get PM's from certain members that "Advised" me that "maybe I should hold back a little on some of the information that I was Providing". Like it was SOOO top secret or something...... And in the Word of another member "Let them figure it out for themselves".......Naturally I was Stunned and shocked at This type of Attitude. But I didn't care, SO I continued to post.

    Well now with the recent events on other threads it is clear to me the intentions of some members here......
    Let me just say this ........ANYONE making a living off this FETT Hobby as a way of life and/or trying to "Corner a certain market" for anything FETT just for the sake of making money does NOT need to be here, I MY OPINION.
    Now with that being said Should People get paid for their hard work and Services they provide for their Love of FETT. DEFINITELY. I think we can all agree on that.

    With the Recent Labor day Holliday I WAS planning on finishing this thread with a TON of pics and "How Too's" ........
    But with the Attitudes that I have seen around here lately and intensions of center members I WILL NOT BE FINISHING THIS THREAD, as it has left a very BAD Taste in my mouth for helping certain people out.....
    I know, it is SAD and unfortunate.

    Please do not misconstrued this as a "NAME Calling" Post.....I wouldn't intentionally do that to anyone. But if you "Push first" I will push back...

    Don't get me wrong I will respond to EVERY PM with questions...Those who know me know that I respond very quickly to ALL my PM's..

    ***WHAT I will do is post the Final Pics of this Completed Bucket..
    That is my Promise.:thumbup

    Again Sorry and Thanks for your input on this thread, it's been fun....

    With respect to all , Alex.
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    It sucks that you have been made to feel this way Spidey. I thought that the reason for a forum like this was to share "our" knowledge of this hobby so that others could learn from "our" mistakes and thus have a more enjoyable Fett building experience. This is supposed to be a community, a family that shares. I have also noticed some of our members with great knowledge of Fett who do not post answers to people's questions when they easlily could help out. Some of these people are the very same that sell products here. I am not saying this of everyone on this forum who has something to sell but, if the shoe fits, you know who you are.

    I think that if you let the people who tell you "Let them figure it out for themselves" get you down about this place, then you are letting them win. Please know that there are more members of this forum that need the help of great members like you than there are people just looking to make a buck form us. Don't let them win. Dummys like me need the SpideyFetts of this board. If we don't have good info on how to do things on our own, we would be forced to just buy everything all done and how much fun would that be?

    Remeber Spidey to read your own signature from time to time. It is true.
    Whatever you decide, thanks for your contributions here in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christo Fett
    It sucks that you have been made to feel this way Spidey. I thought that the reason for a forum like this was to share "our" knowledge of this hobby so that others could learn from "our" mistakes and thus have a more enjoyable Fett building experience. This is supposed to be a community, a family that shares. I have also noticed some of our members with great knowledge of Fett who do not post answers to people's questions when they easlily could help out. Some of these people are the very same that sell products here. I am not saying this of everyone on this forum who has something to sell but, if the shoe fits, you know who you are.

    I think that if you let the people who tell you "Let them figure it out for themselves" get you down about this place, then you are letting them win. Please know that there are more members of this forum that need the help of great members like you than there are people just looking to make a buck form us. Don't let them win. Dummys like me need the SpideyFetts of this board. If we don't have good info on how to do things on our own, we would be forced to just buy everything all done and how much fun would that be?

    Remeber Spidey to read your own signature from time to time. It is true.
    Whatever you decide, thanks for your contributions here in the past.
    Thanks Christo Fett ...your support is Greatly appreciated..
    I pretty much have thought this through, and unfortunately I have to give-in on this one...It sucks I know..

    I look at it things this way now, if your not helping then why are you here??.. know what I mean?..

    I'm glad at least one person Benefited from this thread...
    let me know if I can help...
    Thanks Bud.
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    Amen!!!! People like me really appreciate any help you can give us.....so.... keep up the good work and thanks for helping others out!!!!!! :thumbup

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellCop
    Amen!!!! People like me really appreciate any help you can give us.....so.... keep up the good work and thanks for helping others out!!!!!! :thumbup

    Well said, I'm here for help, and if what I learn will help someone else, I will help. This is a "for fun" thing for me and I want to keep it that way. Don't fight guys and gals...............please.

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    I personally loved this thread, it was really going to help me out in painting my Fett helmet and it was great to see it all step by step, I cant beleive people have been asking you to stop, even if I followed your tutorial I dont think I could match your paint job or some of the other pros on here, but atleast i would have had fun doing it and had a fairly decent looking bucket

    Sad to see this thread die.......

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    Wow, Im sad to hear about this, why on earth would this happen, I thought we were all in the same boat here but I guess not, my view on this forum has always been, give help if you can, and if not point someone in the right direction. I'll just echo the thoughts of everyone else who was following this thread with enthusiasm, its a sad thing, you the man spidey

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    Yea!!! That is what this forum is about!!! HELPING EACH OTHER OUT!!! We all have the same interest here, so show the Love and Spread the Sweetness!!


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    Absolutely insane.

    I hear you barking Spidey........and take it from me when I say, Thank you so very much for the input you have given me in the past......and hopefully in the future.
    I honestly don't understand the mindframe of the members who sent you those sort of PM's. I can't seem to wrap my head around that concept......period.
    I also hate to see this thread die......but if it does it sort of gives me some backhanded motivation of sorts.

    Let me tell you, more than one person benefited from this thread, and many more to come.

    Sincerely
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    It definitely is sad how situations turn out so callow. Posts like this are so helpful to newbie fett builders, step by step instructions for some one who didn’t really have a clue, like me, until I started following all this wonderful information. I've searched all over this forum looking at tutorials, benefiting from tireless work, research and effort made by other members, and over all being pretty impressed the resourcefulness of all you guys as a whole. Yes some people like RS, FP,Brak, Spidey and many more whom don't come to mind at the moment, have definitely contributed more to the forum then say someone like me, and are they respected more in a sense because of that; they are and well deserve it. How many people use their resources, how many of you painted your gear with RS list as your guide, how many people are walking around with awesome FP armor or MS helmets and Ruffkin gauntlets and so on. We're all here for the same reason, I'd hope so anyway. To say let them figure it out by them selves is completely arrogant. What you were doing here Spidey is awesome, and I really think you should continue, because you are well entitled to. I see you try to help or comment on almost every thread I've read. If you don’t like someone’s tutorials don't follow it. If you don’t like someone’s product they are making then don’t buy it. If you don’t like someone’s information provided to you then don't use it. I don’t get why there all finger pointing, not giving credit where credit is due claims, you can't do this, you can't say that, you can't sell this here and so on because someone else does and blah blah blah. We're all here to make a Fett, so let’s all make one without the drama and controversy. I've been using a little info from everyone as I'm in the process of painting my bucket and I'm very happy how its coming out and that’s how everyone should feel, and the people who provide this should be happy that they could help someone instead of having an arrogant figure it out yourself attitude, if that be the case, and if so, what are you doing here? Keep it going Spidey, I'd love to see the rest of your progress, and thank you to everyone else who had provided vital information and resources, I hope with experience I gain something I can give back to this community because like hellcop said, this community is about sharing and helping each other out after all, we all have the same face on the inside ------


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    maybe you should report the scum to the mods. They seem to be pretty helpful in these situations.


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    People wouldn't care who knows what If it didn't effect their profits.. If you ask me, people that have info that they either can't or don't wish to disclose, should not mention that they even have this info.. and unless someone is using someone elses methods that were given to them privately, I think it's wrong to ask anyone to hold anything back that they feel like sharing..

    I think Spidey (although seems a little impressed with himself at times ) is a good guy with a ton of helpful info.. Because of threads like this, I'm the proud owner of a bucket that's been stripped back down to primer at least 6 times... The more I read, the more I learn, and the more I say 'ah screw it, let's start over' ..

    I for one am pretty thankful of absolutely everyone on here.. Even though we may have a new president by the time my bucket is finished, I've learned so much being here and Im having a blast with it.. I had never even heard of acrylic or enamel when I first made it here and now I've amazed myself with how my work can look (before it gets stripped) .. all because of threads like this one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spideyfett
    Well to my amazement I was shocked to get PM's from certain members that "Advised" me that "maybe I should hold back a little on some of the information that I was Providing". Like it was SOOO top secret or something...... And in the Word of another member "Let them figure it out for themselves".......
    This realy angers and sickens me. :puke This type of attitude is something I would expect over at the RPF, but NEVER here. I have been a member of this board for quite some time, and while my post count may not be as high as others, I have paid attention to what goes on around this place, and this type of attitude surprises me.

    I have some times wondered about the lack of involvement from some of the "senior" members, but I have always written it off as growing tired of answering the same question over and over, not trying to keep info from the community. I hope that this new info that you shared is just an isolated case, and not the new way of thinking around here. I agree that a little bit of due diligence should be expected of a new member. A noob should spend some time researching the forum, before they shoot off a question that HAS been answered a hundred times. But not wanting someone to share information, or methods, or a tutorial, that is redicioulus (sp?).

    Spidey,
    Thanks for what you have provided so far. I will help me when it comes time to start my helmet. You are right that ITS NOT TOP SECRET information. I have bookmarked other threads that provide hemet painting info also. But it is ALWAYS nice to see pictures too. A picture says a thousand words. Thanks again Spidey. I will be sending you a PM soon.

    Gator
    Last edited by Gator Fett; 09-03-2005 at 06:41 PM.

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