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My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

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    My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    My Asok CC helmet arrived this week and I have gotten straight down to it. I have sanded with wire wool, trimmed off the excess resin from the bucket, trimmed the RF unit & ear. Image:



    I am going to mask it up and latex it up tonight to get started with painting this weekend. However, I have been told to cut the visor out last, but I was thinking that surely there would be an obvious lack of paint where the filled visor was previously? Any advice with this? Thanks.
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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Good luck man!!!!!!!

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    gday bud - i prefer to have the visor and all the prep work done before i begin painting. I usually spend time mounting my final visor using some templates, and when everything is positioned correctly, I like to cut out my visor that i will use for the finished product, fit it, and when I am satisfied, I carefully store it away, and do my paint work using one of my dummy template visors, as it doesnt matter if you spray it etc. On a side note, I also prefer to prime and spray the interior before beginning the outside too. I just find, with a dummy visor in place, it has little chance of getting through, but, if there was a reason there was some overspray, id prefer it from the outside into the interior, rather than fully paint up a great lid, then spray the interior and get any overspray on the very detailed outside. Again, personal preference, and likely as im becoming a pedantic old fart, but just my method. I know how exciting it is to just want to get down and paint (to be honest, I hate the prep stages, I just love the paint stages), but by spending a little extra time at the start, it really helps pay dividends in the longrun. Peace

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Cool, cheers AGAIN Jayvee. I was thinking about cutting the visor out after sanding etc. unfortunately I have no tools or anything, so any hard work like drilling the side to bolt in the RF and drill the RF itself, I need to wait until I can make it round to his house. And removing the visor, I'm assuming I need to drill the sides where it's thin and saw it out from there. Which I can't do until my dad is back from Holiday hahah.

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Jayvee put it very well! Its what I did.

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    that will be a pretty tough and long way to do it bud, if you can borrow or get your hands on a rotary tool, it would help you heaps. rotary tools have cutters, sanding drums, drill bits and heaps of other connections that will be useful that you can chop and change, and once you have got your base cut and sand, you can refine it with some files and needle files - which you would want to do even if you have to use the hacksaw method. Just note that this bit will take some time to do nicely - put a day aside to do all these little bits of prep. depending on how accurate you want to go, this is often a good time to add the little nicks and scratches that are specific to the paintup you are doing (for esb, there are some good threads by spideyfett, and also one by ponte and terminal fettler that show the positions you want to look at for these nicks and scrapes - hopefully these three gents dont mind me referencing thier awesome work). Good luck brother!

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Cheers again guys. I was thinking to me this would be the best way of doing it, I think I will do all the nicks, sand it fully drill the side, do EVERYTHING to the helmet, then cut out the visor as the sturdiness will be about for longer :P Then paint it. Thanks guys.

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    JayBox,

    I'm on the list for one of these, so I'd love to see you document your process here! Are you going to use an airbrush or rattlecans?
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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Rattle cans

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

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    Cheers again guys. I was thinking to me this would be the best way of doing it, I think I will do all the nicks, sand it fully drill the side, do EVERYTHING to the helmet, then cut out the visor as the sturdiness will be about for longer :P Then paint it. Thanks guys.
    Yea mate, sounds good - I really think it is the best option to get all the construction out the way before putting any paint on, so glad to see you on track with that. mounting the visor can take a little time - I have been using the chicago screw method mainly, but depending how clean you want your interior, you can even carefully hot glue the visor in at the end. Regardless, I still like to get all the mounting etc done, and by putting in a dummy visor for when you paint (you can cut this out of a thin piece of plastic, or even a cheap laundry bucket) it will give the helmet the sturdiness it needs regardless. But the most important thing is to do exactly what you are doing - and thats to plan it all in simple steps that you find will work the best for what is available to you. Looks like your right on track brother!

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    That sounds good. Cheers. I will be putting this on hold for a week until I am able to drill the RF & Drill the visor out which will be sometime next week hopefully. Oh well, it gives me time to work on my jet pack. Still have some sanding to do of that.

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Another quick question to finish off the building of my helmet, I am wondering how to attach my earpiece over the top of my RF so I can take it off for storage. Asok recommended magnets, but I have no idea how that would work. I don't want to fill his email inbox all the time, so if anyone can help out on here = AWESOME.

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    bump for help?

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Bump for any help on above question?

    ALSO: how are people sticking the Rangefinder to the stalk? I have an aluminium stalk and a plastic RF. Will super glue be strong enough?

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    I've been looking at the same issues, Jay. I might drill and tap the top of the stalk to accept one or two small screws ala SingleSeat's method, but it will require either modification or following his scratch build to do it (post numbers 19 and 20 are the relevant ones to attaching, but the entire thread is worth a look).

    If you go the magnet route I think you would want to find some rare-earth magnets (small disks) and carefully drill shallow, flat bottomed holes to accept them on both the earpiece and the helmet so that they sit flush and can mate up. Then epoxy them in place, making sure you have your polarity correct so that they attract, not repel! I might do this as well, so I'll look at mine later and see if that is even possible the way I see it in my head.

    EDIT: Oh, Aluminum is infamous for not grabbing strongly to any adhesive. Though you might get it to stay for a while I think it would eventually pop off.
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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    For the stalk I normally attach machine screws to the stalk and use them as studs forthe rf attachment. The ear can stay on with the tabs that are o. The helmet with some doublesided tape or magnets like Asok told you. The magnets would just be countersunk into the ear and side of the rf mount on the helmet.

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    Hmm, this is all so much more work than I thought! haha. It seems I'll have to drill a 2 holes in the top of the stalk and 2 in the RF itself. But surely just screwing two bolts into it won't work, I thought it would need two bolts etc for them to screw into? Although, super gluing 2 small bolts to the top should be enough like Fett 4 Real's idea?

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    No I did not mean superglue anything. I meant u need to take two machine screws and fix them into the stalk via drilling holes and tapping the stalk. Then cut the head off the screw leaving studs in the stalk.

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Ahh cool. See photoshopped translation of what you meant :P. I don't want to mess this up :P haha.

    rf-jpg

    I have also just bought these for the earpiece: 2 x STRONG RARE EARTH MAGNETS REBORN/CRAFT/ DUMMY 6 X 2 | eBay

    Going to be getting on with all this on Thursday night!

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    Yes just like that

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Sweet! Thanks mate. I'll be doing that this Thursday.

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    UPDATE:

    It's taking shape now! I'll let the pictures do the talking. I've mainly been working on my Jet pack, as I haven't had access to a drill or anything. But I went to my parents last night and made the most of theirs. Popping back next week to get the visor out. I'll let the pics do the talking:

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    Looking good! Do the magnets hold as well as you hoped they would?

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    Mate, they're stronger! haha. They're so good. Can't recommend it enough. Just dill 2 holes to the depth/width that your magnets are in each side OR drill one hole thats double so they slot together, but I didn't think about the latter so I just drilled 2 holes. :P

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    Re: My Asok Cold Cast ESB helmet paint up!

    Fett 4 Real said: View Post
    No I did not mean superglue anything. I meant u need to take two machine screws and fix them into the stalk via drilling holes and tapping the stalk. Then cut the head off the screw leaving studs in the stalk.
    Where would I find info on tapping? Is that making it so it is threaded? How do you do that?

    EDIT: I think I found it. Seems a little complicated.
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