Apr 11, 2007, 1:17 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
looks like a sgt fang bucket to me, but the range finder ear cap looks like a rubies or a don post cap.
Apr 11, 2007, 1:26 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
whatever helmet it is its a top notch paint job,,although the arrows do look a little sgtfang, but its hard to tell ..what are the dimensions,, ie inside width (side to side and front to back ))
Apr 11, 2007, 1:31 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Your camera's a bit too close to the helmet, so there's some perspective distortion that's throwing off the proportions.
As a standard, can you stand back about 6 feet and zoom in and rephotograph it?
I helped at SDCC '08
Apr 11, 2007, 1:38 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Earcap looks like a Sgt. Fang, and the arrows too. A look inside the helmet could help reveal the maker too.
Apr 11, 2007, 2:01 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Ok guys thanks for all the help so far. Below you'll find a couple of shots taken from a distance, you'll also find some measurements below as well.
Side to Side - 9 and a half inches
front to back - 10 and a half inches
Hope this helps
Apr 11, 2007, 2:16 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
well a fang is only about 9 1/2 front to back and 9 1/2 side to side , and the interior looks smoother than a fang ,so it could be a ms,, i have never laid hands on one ,maybe someone out there has and could help out more .........anyway not knowing what you paid for it or if it is in fact a ms to me in my opoinion its a $450 - 500 helmet (( but thats just my opinion i could be wrong ))
Apr 11, 2007, 4:11 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
I'd venture to say its a sgt fang helmet. As it looks resin and does not have a layer of fiber glass on the inside. Plus it has the classic sgt fang ear cap and not the 2 peice that MS has been offering. Still though I suppose it could be a MS1 as those are very similar to sgt.fang buckets in most respects.
Last edited by NikNak aka; Apr 11, 2007 at 4:24 PM.
Apr 11, 2007, 4:15 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
i concur with niknak. very well could be a fang/MS recast.
Apr 11, 2007, 4:17 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
my MS3 helmet is fiberglass on the inside, and a plasticy/resiny sort of outer layer, but i *think* that might have been new to the MS3. the older ones may be all fiberglass, but i could very well be wrong there.
mine is also signed and numbered on the inside, but i don't know if that's a new to the ms3 thing as well.
I helped at SDCC '08
Apr 11, 2007, 4:18 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
The curved cheeks, the arrows, the earcap, the inside looking like resin, and the distance from front to back, I'd say it's likely a Sgt. Fang. It looks more like my Fang than my MS.
Apr 11, 2007, 4:26 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Either way its a nice bucket. The paint is a little too bright green for me but I think you could put a few washes on it to dull it down a bit. Maybe even mist it with a more olive grean color.
Apr 11, 2007, 4:28 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
If i am not mistaken isnt' an ms different than a ms1 ms2 and ms3 ( different maker i mean ) ms1 2 3 standing for marrow sun ,and ms standing for movie size ((i have had both a fang and own an ms3 and this helmet is an inch bigger front to back than both
Apr 11, 2007, 4:48 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
MSH is the abbreviation for Movie Sized helmet. At least to my understanding.
Apr 11, 2007, 5:01 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Apr 11, 2007, 5:18 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
I thought the ear cap looked like a rubies one but at the same time, I didn't use my fang one either...
Apr 11, 2007, 6:21 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Apr 11, 2007, 7:58 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Hmmm. . . I have an MS1, and the interior looks pretty much like the one shown in the photo.
From everything I've read here, the MS1 and Sarge helmets are reeeeeeeally hard to distinguish. Except for the material of course.
I don't know that you've ever held a fiberglass or a resin helmet, but by holding them, you can definitely feel the difference in weight. A fiberglass helmet feels more substantial.
Apr 11, 2007, 9:17 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Apr 11, 2007, 9:38 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Unless your up for a real PROJECT bucket, I would sell it and take what ever you can get from it and buy a MS3 if you can. The MS3 has just abou every thing done to it that you will have to do to this one to get it on par with most buckets. Even sanding it all down to re prime and paint will take hours. You should be able to at least get what a MS3 costs for this and then you have a great and more accurate canvas to paint on. Another great option is a TF bucket. He has redone his ESB as a non cold cast and its about as good as it gets as well.
Apr 11, 2007, 11:18 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Is MS still actively producing helmets, though? From what I've seen on the boards lately, they're pretty scarce.
I also remember the MS3 being a limited run, weren't they?
Apr 11, 2007, 11:24 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
I think I'm going to sand it down and repaint it, any tips? I have a pretty good grasp on painting its just the sanding I'm worried about.
Last edited by Citizen Snips; Apr 12, 2007 at 12:18 AM.
Apr 12, 2007, 4:58 AM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
did the ms1 have the same rounded cheek corners and wrong angle on the spot behind the ear as fangs?
Apr 12, 2007, 8:03 AM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
Yes it did. Also the MS helmet tended to have a more angular curve line along the back of the helmet. The Sgt Fang has a more rounded curve with a slight warp along the back of the helmet. Plus that looks like MS grey primered interior of his early MS1 buckets. Just My two.
Apr 20, 2007, 5:01 PM - Re: Is this an MS helmet?
I 95% sure this helmet is one of my earlier casting. Just from the inside shot I can reconize things I use to do plus the small bubbles inside the arrows are a good tell.