MR to release and ESB bucket next year !!!

Everyone has seen the latest BLOG entry at the MASTER REPLICAS site ?

They announced their 2006 product plan and among other Fett items ( ROTJ rifle in LIMITED and UNLIMITED COLLECTORS EDITION, .33 scaled Blaster ), they also have the ESB bucket listed. I am already curios how this will compare, to the Mystery, BM´s, MS´s...

It looks like a really good product line up for '06!
As far as the Fett helmet goes, I think they would be reeeeeeeally hard pressed to put out a product that would rival the paint job that an individual "nut job" fan could do. And yes, I'm one of those "nut job" fans myself.
With a mass-produced replica, I just don't see the same level of detail being incorporated into the paint job.
Eric

While I'm sure it will be "nice"....I'll reserve judgement 'til I see the finished product.....ESB is a nightmare to re-create.

Steve

5 bucks says they will get those buckets out before the clone buckets are out.

Originally Posted by shortimer52

5 bucks says they will get those buckets out before the clone buckets are out.

Or if they follow in the clone fiasco's footsteps we will not see these things until 2010!
Coming June/July.. I mean August/September... Uh..October/November?... DECEMBER!... NEXT YEAR?! FEB,MAR,APR,MAY When will the maddness end

Originally Posted by MARROW SUN

Or if they follow in the clone fiasco's footsteps we will not see these things until 2010!
Coming June/July.. I mean August/September... Uh..October/November?... DECEMBER!... NEXT YEAR?! FEB,MAR,APR,MAY When will the maddness end

Aint that the truth

I smell a Don Post like paint-job coming along w/ those.

You couldn't say it any better, spot on.

well ill get the helmet if it impresses me

Originally Posted by Tim Allen

I smell a Don Post like paint-job coming along w/ those.

It just can't look that bad It's my worst fear for collectors' sake,but I'm just hoping they take it to a higher level accuracy wise than anything previous. It'll never come close to what we've acheieved due to time alone. Heck if they had any inside info. about it they would have Rogue Studios paint list on a white board already ....if they don't use these paints,they might as well hang it up as anything prior to the paint discovery was just a nice try....and I've seen what used to be "the best" which still don't hold a candle to what's shown off here these days.

Steve

Our very own Wizardofflight posts detailed drawings (which are awsome and much appreciated as usual) and all the sudden MR is comming out with a Fett helmet

Hmmm... methinks a conspiracy is in the works, W.o.F should seek compensation.

joking ofcourse, but serriously at the rate MR gets their products out, I don't think SGB, MS, or BM have anything to worry about anytime soon, as far as a lack of work. I'm planning on doing a Fett this year "06, and I'd sooner give my cashola to one of these talented guys before I pay for an over priced MR item.. Just my .01

i think theyll come up with a super paint job, and charge a super price

I was hoping they would make a Darth Maul Force FX saber. Ima hafta get me one of those.

The only thing that will be remotely ESB is the paintjob but that is all I can say about it right now.

Lee

Originally Posted by Rogue Studios

The only thing that will be remotely ESB is the paintjob but that is all I can say about it right now.

Lee

Someone have a inside story?

Originally Posted by Rogue Studios

The only thing that will be remotely ESB is the paintjob but that is all I can say about it right now.

Lee

hmmmmmmmm.....this is a very open ended statement So the shape(noESB flair) and,rangefinder are going to be "off" then

Steve

Originally Posted by Rogue Studios

The only thing that will be remotely ESB is the paintjob but that is all I can say about it right now.

Lee

interesting.........
Please keep us posted.

A mass produced helmet won't come close to the helmets that will be showcased on these forums in about a month when everyone gets those MS interiors installed.

I too highly doubt that the mass-produced paintjob will come even close to those that have and continue to be made by members here, not to mention their habit of idealizing the shape. I'm going to wait until I see some photos, but from what I've heard so far I'm not getting my hopes up.

Originally Posted by Jango_Fett_Jr

I too highly doubt that the mass-produced paintjob will come even close to those that have and continue to be made by members here, not to mention their habit of idealizing the shape. I'm going to wait until I see some photos, but from what I've heard so far I'm not getting my hopes up.

Amen' JFJ..

unless MR hires Marrow Sun or Spideyfett to paint 500 of these helmets they will be in trouble!! LOL

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

unless MR hires Marrow Sun or Spideyfett to paint 500 of these helmets they will be in trouble!! LOL

Yup.

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

unless MR hires Marrow Sun or Spideyfett to paint 500 of these helmets they will be in trouble!! LOL

.....Im always for hire...

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

unless MR hires Marrow Sun or Spideyfett to paint 500 of these helmets they will be in trouble!! LOL

Well I'm good for about 150 of 'em if Spidey wants to pick up my slack on the other 350

Originally Posted by MARROW SUN

Well I'm good for about 150 of 'em if Spidey wants to pick up my slack on the other 350

.....Im in.

I think that the helmets we at the dented helmet have created will be superior. We are a team of people who eat, drink, and breathe Boba Fett (I am at least). Fett has consumed our lives, and we have devoted hours and hours of research, and trial and error to this. I think that MS, and BM will still be a step up. Besides, no matter what, it will be a REDICULOUS price.

Originally Posted by cookiemongoloid

Besides, no matter what, it will be a REDICULOUS price.

What do you think a rediculous price would be?

FYI.... Back in the day the fiberglass DP Delux Fett helmets were $1000-1200 out of the gate and went MUCH higher on eBay.
These were highly inaccurate and were still commanding these prices and they were selling like crazy.

Lynn

Best case is you get a helmet that is cast from the exact MOM helmet that WAS used in ESB, not someone's impression of size and details. Then you get a pretty accurate paint job that will need a few extra scratches and nicks for the anally obsessed.

Middle case is you get an exact helmet that will need to be repainted.

Worst case is you get a helmet that was tweaked by MR to meet what they think it should look like and will still sell like the Deluxe and be used to create other "works of art" without much worry about recasting "rules".

I wouldn't rule out MR just because it might not be a 100% paintjob but with MR having access to the actual helmets may give the MS, MSII and BM a run for the money.

As for the MR tweaking, I do like the looks of the MR stormtrooper.

Hmmmm. Well Im very curious as see what it turns out like.

I was hoping they would make a Darth Maul Force FX saber. Ima hafta get me one of those.

As far as that goes, they are.

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/mr-pretoyfair-05/

And yes, it splits in half =)

-Tony Vida; TK 3204; Austin, Tx

oh man I gotta have that maul fx. The Obi-wan is dissappointing, but I didnt like the luke ROTJ either.

i think the maul saber will be my first FX saber. either that or the anakin or vader one

oh man I gotta have that maul fx. The Obi-wan is dissappointing, but I didnt like the luke ROTJ either.

Agree on both points, I HAVE to have that maul!!

-Tony Vida; TK 3204; Austin, Tx

I have the Anakin Sabor and it rules... very bright. Its not completely accurate but its still fun to play with.

hey i just realised that if MR was to make a truely accurite ESB helmet it will have to have RF lights & a servo controled RF antena. that might mean that well take a large bite out of our pockets

The RF antenna on real Fett helmets aren't servo controlled, as best we can tell. It uses good old-fashioned hand power.

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

The RF antenna on real Fett helmets aren't servo controlled, as best we can tell. It uses good old-fashioned hand power.

well then they will still need to have the blinking led's in the RF, correct?

Thats true, I can't see that adding much to the cost. I'm not postive but I think most if not all the original helmets were made with working LEDs, although in their present state some of them have been taken apart and had the electronics removed. So depending on which helmet MR used as reference, they may not even be aware that the lights did blink...

Originally Posted by Tim Allen

I smell a Don Post like paint-job coming along w/ those.

or rubies
They will really have to pull out ALL the stops to get it right,and actually released when they say it will be.
Either way it will be interesting to see the size of the helmet.ESB correct?or did it say?
-Goldenrod

Originally Posted by goldenrod

or rubies
They will really have to pull out ALL the stops to get it right,and actually released when they say it will be.
Either way it will be interesting to see the size of the helmet.ESB correct?or did it say?
-Goldenrod

or if they even get the flair right. *imagines it lookin like a Donpost 97* wow that would look craptastic

I think the form of the helmet will be terrific, but like a version the way it "should" have been in the movies, so symmetrical and all.

wich is imo pretty cool.

paint job will suck, so why not let MR know to put them for sale with only a grey primer on it :P

Originally Posted by RBF

I think the form of the helmet will be terrific, but like a version the way it "should" have been in the movies, so symmetrical and all.

wich is imo pretty cool.

paint job will suck, so why not let MR know to put them for sale with only a grey primer on it :P

that is awesome...a $500 fett helmet with a grey primer!! LOL I agree thats what they should do

heck have any of you seen the paint job they did on the clone helmets?? they screwed that up and the only color they had to use was yellow...no way MR will get the fett right!!

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

that is awesome...a $500 fett helmet with a grey primer!! LOL I agree thats what they should do

heck have any of you seen the paint job they did on the clone helmets?? they screwed that up and the only color they had to use was yellow...no way MR will get the fett right!!

mabie we should bobmbard them with emails containing the reference pictures that have the ESB helmet along with the picture that proves the leds are there. i think its the least we could do to try & help these guys. cause i want this helmet to rock. although we could tell them to switch to a ROTJ helmet. it doesnt have half as good a paintjob as the ESB but they might be able to not screw that up.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Are you saying we should start a Petition maybe??? ....I'd be up for that ...
Anyone else???

well i just think that MR would have a much better time painting the ROTJ cause it looks alot easyer. + it would go with the gun they will be releasing. i would really love MR to make a ESB helmet its just i dont think i can trust them to make a truely good paintjob on it because its just so complicated. . what you guys say? ESB ? or ROTJ ?

i still say it would be easyer cause ROTJ uses a topical (spelling?) paintjob & ESB uses a layered paint job.

It's far too late in the game for a petition...

Originally Posted by BobaFettSlave_1

well i just think that MR would have a much better time painting the ROTJ cause it looks alot easyer.
i still say it would be easyer cause ROTJ uses a topical (spelling?) paintjob & ESB uses a layered paint job.

Personally I don't ever feel like tackling a ROTJ bucket ever again. I thought the same thing that it was going to be a piece of cake to replicate but after getting into it and really studying the pictures and details I found the ROTJ helmet far more challenging. Less than 1% of my helmet was done topically plus there is a ton of scratches and cut marks engraved throught the helmet to recreate.
Also thanks to RS there is a nice colorlist to act as a guideline for the ESB, unfortunatly guys have to gauge colors for themselves with the ROTJ and custom mix a lot of their shades.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is in my opinion ROTJ is harder helmet to properly replicate.

Originally Posted by Desloc

Best case is you get a helmet that is cast from the exact MOM helmet that WAS used in ESB, not someone's impression of size and details. Then you get a pretty accurate paint job that will need a few extra scratches and nicks for the anally obsessed.

I think it is highly unlikely that we will see a helmet cast from the ESB helmet for two reasons: the ESB helmet has been on tour for the last few years, and I doubt LFL would allow one of those helmets to be molded for risk of damaging the helmet and paint job, especially given the "white glove" policy for archive visitors.

I also agree that is the ROTJ helmet is much tougher paintjob to properly recreate because it is so randomly weathered and just *** all over.

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

just *** all over.

That's the funniest analogy I've read about a paintjob yet!

Good one Tyler

Steve

Here's the deal they send this stuff to China and at the factory they use Pantone paint swatches to get a match so basically it'll be a close match to whatever they find on the pantone chart unfortunately. I think they are on a thin wire with the purist fett fans as far as accuarcy and colors. But I would be happy with whatever they put out because I think it'll be the best that will ever be offered as far as licensed material goes. I'm going to compare it to what I have and see what was compromised or idealized me personaly I like my stuff to be craptacular/asseriffic like the real props and not a symetrical halloween head topper but that is my preference. I'd rather have what was on screen and not what someone thinks I would like.
Also on the ROTJ colors I could crack those but I have spent so much time getting my helmet up to speed that I have spent practically zero time on the ROTJ helmet colors. When this comes out I'll post a comparison of my helmet with this one and see what happens I'll probably get banned from the RPF when I do but oh well that is why I have my own board now.

Lee

Originally Posted by Real Scooby

Everyone has seen the latest BLOG entry at the MASTER REPLICAS site ?

They announced their 2006 product plan and among other Fett items ( ROTJ rifle in LIMITED and UNLIMITED COLLECTORS EDITION, .33 scaled Blaster ), they also have the ESB bucket listed. I am already curios how this will compare, to the Mystery, BM´s, MS´s...

I'm sure it will cost like $900, haha, there is a MR Vader at the Sharper Image at the mall, and I believe it's like $1000.

Originally Posted by RBF

I think the form of the helmet will be terrific, but like a version the way it "should" have been in the movies, so symmetrical and all.

wich is imo pretty cool.

paint job will suck, so why not let MR know to put them for sale with only a grey primer on it :P

The Fett helmet was not symetrical. Check out bobamaker's page to see the differences from left to right.

Originally Posted by BobaFettSlave_1

mabie we should bobmbard them with emails containing the reference pictures that have the ESB helmet along with the picture that proves the leds are there. i think its the least we could do to try & help these guys. cause i want this helmet to rock. although we could tell them to switch to a ROTJ helmet. it doesnt have half as good a paintjob as the ESB but they might be able to not screw that up.

Just so you know you are putting the esb helmet logo and the pre-pro helmet logo not the ROTJ helmet logo See the small differences?



Personally I doubt the MR helmet will be worth it's almost assured high price tag. I can't imagine the paint job being worth it at all. I might be wrong here but couldn't they take the ESB helmet and do that funky laser scan thing that Gentle Giants does to get it right without damaging it? Regardless I will most likley drop the cash on it just to own one, but I doubt it will look as good as my MSH2.

Now as far as them making the ROTJ rifle that I am totally down with, that is by far my favorite of Fetts weapons and I think they can most likley make a good version of that. And the fact they are making a LE version that will be a nicer limited version for display and a CE version that is unlimited and a little cheaper for trooping is awesome. I will probally pick up both and kiss my resin kit good-bye. And think if the ROTJ versions sell well they might make an ESB version in the future.

Originally Posted by Predatormv

Just so you know you are putting the esb helmet logo and the pre-pro helmet logo not the ROTJ helmet logo See the small differences?



Personally I doubt the MR helmet will be worth it's almost assured high price tag. I can't imagine the paint job being worth it at all. I might be wrong here but couldn't they take the ESB helmet and do that funky laser scan thing that Gentle Giants does to get it right without damaging it? Regardless I will most likley drop the cash on it just to own one, but I doubt it will look as good as my MSH2.

Now as far as them making the ROTJ rifle that I am totally down with, that is by far my favorite of Fetts weapons and I think they can most likley make a good version of that. And the fact they are making a LE version that will be a nicer limited version for display and a CE version that is unlimited and a little cheaper for trooping is awesome. I will probally pick up both and kiss my resin kit good-bye. And think if the ROTJ versions sell well they might make an ESB version in the future.

I believe they chose the ROTJ EE-3 becuase it has a better look to it, the barrel of the gun is more sophisticated unlike the metal pipe in ESB.

I'm sure I'll buy the bucket, I don't really trust myself in painting a helmet due to the fact I wish to replace my DP'95 bucket.

I know LFL would probably never let molds be made of the original helmets, but couldn't they use the laser scanning method to duplicate the exact shape? I know there's companies out there that do this for a fairly reasonable price. Just a thought.

That would most likely be how they would do it, that and use a prototyping machine. To my knowledge they used the actual models of the ROTS Clone helmets and prototyped out parts of it for symmetry and sculpted the base parts of the helmet. I used this technology a while back to do a Halo Pistol. Its a good way to get exact details. Stenciling works just as well for this. Stenciling was used to create the symmetry to my Crimson Guard helmet but if you use that you leave your sculpt open to some errors. But from looking at the Clone Helmets at MR they cheated with the models quite a bit.