Just wondering, does anybody on here own the master replicas boba fett????
Forgive me, but isnt that a rip off??? $600 for a replica helmet that I am seeing sell for $100?
Anybody own the MR version???
Discussion on Master replicas??? within the Boba Fett Helmet forum, part of the Star Wars Original Trilogy Bounty Hunters category; Just wondering, does anybody on here own the master replicas
Just wondering, does anybody on here own the master replicas boba fett????
Forgive me, but isnt that a rip off??? $600 for a replica helmet that I am seeing sell for $100?
Anybody own the MR version???
The MR Boba Fett helmet isn't scheduled to ship till November.
The list price, for a completely finished, wearable, lined fiberglass helmet with working rangefinder electronics, is quite reasonable.
Let alone the fact that the shape was scanned from an actual production-used helmet in the Lucasfilm Archives, and that this product is licensed by LFL as well.
The window for delivery is very, very, very, very, close to the lapse in the MR license with Star Wars. The price is huge for a helmet that needs further weathering too. They have done this before... I remember the clone helmets being delayed 3 times (maybe more) by MR. Vendors were pre-selling them in April of 2005, but they did not get released until a little over a year ago. Ouch.
The helmet is very impressive in person.
BTW, the LE is $450 not $600 and you're probably not going to find an accurate helmet painted like that with working lights, etc all finished for $450. If you think you'll find anything like that for $100 you're kidding yourself.
Um, yes, I make the helmets and armor very close to what was in the movies. Just as good as anything else floating around. All in all, they run just under $200 for replica helmets. I also get sick of the same helmet over and over, Joel Johnstons 1977-1978 design has room for massive improvement, so I also make costume helmets, close to fetts, but a lil better imho.
pm me if you want one. Unpainted, they run $50. So yeah, I kinda found em already, I make em.
But even $450 is a lot to pay, but not if your that die hard collector who needs it for the ultamite collection, but if you want one to wear, bad purchase. imho
Oh yeah, does anybody know why lucasfilm pulled the MR deal??
Loveless, do you have pics of one of your helmets? PM them if you like. What material do you make them out of?
Yes, I too am interested in an unpainted one pending pictures building materials.Originally Posted by loveless
I'm sorry but I have to defend of the MRH...its really a thing of beauty, I have seen it..tried it on and have felt the heff of this helmetIts true, if you want to buy a fan made helmet or one of those ****** knock offs (recasters
) you are going to get a better price than the MRH. And judging from MR's past fiber glass helmets MR has developed a decent track record and well worth the price IMO
It's not until they are no longer produced that the value of these helmets will be missed. And let me add one more thing here, the paint job on the Fett helmet is better than many of the helmets that I have seen posted here on this forum and else where. There are artisians here that do a wonderful job but you are going to pay a price for their masterworks. Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing fan made stuff but its nice to get some "official" wears once in a while that make the grade too
So if you want something less than movie accurate and cheaper (you always get what you pay for) by all means go for it...its your money!
~Kevin
Last edited by TK172; 10-03-2007 at 07:51 PM.
Improvement on the original helmet? I believe most people here are interested in replicating the originals as exact as possible.
I'd like to see a picture of a completed painted helmet with working rangefinder and padding that you sell.
Yes indeed, I would love a MR helmet. Especially if I could afford it, guys, please keep the MR in there packaging, in about 20 years, there gonna be worth more then your education.
But for me and most, $450 is too much for a costume piece.
And yes, I do sell the replica helmets, not just the custom versions.
Yes, I will definately post photos of the helmet within a week, or at least have everything up on http://mandalorian-manor.tripod.com/ by the second week of october.
But yes, unless your A die hard collector. Really, nobody will care if you spent $300+ more on a bucket helmet then one that looks exactly the same for a much cheaper price just because it has a lucasfilm stamp on it.
But yes, look for photos under the mandalorian manor thread mid oct.
I am waiting to thread the website till everything is up and running.
Also, I will have a video section on the website so everyone can see the props in use and how they are.
P.S. As for the materials, no, not fiberglass, but a durable styrene plastic. If you look at the website link, or my avatar, those are the custom style helmets that go for $100 down. And that's painted.
Last edited by loveless; 10-03-2007 at 10:13 PM.
I actually don't care about a Lucasfilm stamp. If you can produce a durable helmet with an accurate Boba paint job and working electronics for $200 I'll be all over it.
How accurate is the MR helmet to the real one?
Pretty accurate. It was scanned off a real helmet and the template paint job was painted by one of the best Boba painters out there. It won't match an individually painted helmet by some people on this board, but for a mass produced item its really quite nice.
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=21044
There's a good thread about it.
Loveless, I think you need to start providing proof of your claims. Your statements are quite far fetched.
Loveless
I respect your quest to produce and sell a costum helmets at a affordable cost.
I have some questions for you...
How many helmets do you plan to build at once?What is the turn a round rate from the time the order is made and sent to me?
I assume this is a pay up front purchase?
How are purchases to be made?Is there a warranty with it or gaurntee of quality?
What carrier will be used in shipping the helmet?
Are these unpainted?or is there a price difference between painted and unpianted?
Is there a Jango model?
I am sorry to be forward but you might have a sell here and these are just some question I have.
A complete mandalorian helmet for $100,now I might be able to work that in the budget
More pictures... less talk....
Amen.... Pics!
i think that's the key right there... many (most?) of the people on this board aren't interested in improving on boba and jango... they want them exactly accurate.
so the MR, being digitally scanned from the original, is the closest we're likely to ever get to "accurate"
that's like taking a stormtrooper helmet and making it symmetrical. yeah, it would look better aesthetically, but it's no longer the same thing as what's seen on screen.
all that being said, i'd LOVE to see a well made $50 styrene helmet out there that can match up to the quality of the fiberglass ones we're used to! i can't wait to see the pics!
yeah I'd love to see some pics of your helmets also loveless. working at $7 an hour puts you on a budget ya knowi saw your "project z" page on your website and DANG! I would've LOVED to have some armor like that at his age. one lucky kid!
Bump as im anxious to see the results here
I think I saw that little kid at CIV!!!yeah I'd love to see some pics of your helmets also loveless. working at $7 an hour puts you on a budget ya know
Stole that pic from my friends photobucket!
Is that person on the right crying?
I don't remember, I think that she was with the kid or something, and may have been laughing...?Is that person on the right crying?
Seems like Loveless bailed out on us.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I PM'd him. He got back to me fairly quickly.
Honestly, I believe he can make a nice helmet. Probably fairly acurate. And technically he can probably reproduce raw ones for 50-100 bucks thereafter.
The key is how greedy he is. Its all about how much profit he wants off of each one.
I have seen a lot of surprisingly talented people. Some are greedy, some arent. I dont doubt he can make them. I dont doubt they can be made for $50 each. I somewhat doubt that someone wouldnt get burned out or greedy after selling 100 of them
But it takes all kinds in this world, and ive seen stranger things. So im going to give him the benefit, of giving him the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise.
You never know.
Alan has spent HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of hours making templates. If he had told you when he started..
I can make all these templates pretty darn movie acurate for free what would the response have been?
Hes not greedy. They are free
loveless talks up his work, yet has nothing to show us....
That may be true, but I don't think the majority here wants a helmet for a few bucks, we want something that is as ACCURATE as we can make it. Remember...YOU always get what you pay for no matter how much someone talks it uploveless talks up his work, yet has nothing to show us....Anyway, to most who know me have never heard me say so much at one time
~Kevin
I am still floating around. Perhaps I shoulda waited to post on here till everything is fully functional with mandalorian manor.
Anyhow, Helmets were supposed to be out today, but yesterday, I lost a very valuble peice of equipment, it broke down on me, so I have to get it fixed, please god, I will be vacuforming this week and am very hopefull I can post picks by this sat.
As for the helmets, you can have them totally customed, but trust me, the replicas are as close to what Joel did back in 78 as anything else you will see. I am spending great time in fabricating them so they are as accurate as possible. I have over 100 reference photos and measurments and such.
Again, I am very sorry I have fallen behind here, but I am still going, plus directing and producing movies is time consuming.
As far as price, I am not greedy, I am making about $25 off each helmet at best.
There durable and I am actually gonna start looking into fiberglass.
I am just getting started with mass producing, so It's going slow.
Also, I guess it could be considered greed, I can sell one replica for about $100+ or I can sell 5 replicas at $50 and make more off of em.
Either way, they take the same amount of time to make, it's just that it makes it more available to everyone if there cheaper. And you get what you pay for….I have never heard a statement so untrue!!!
Also yes, more picks soon and less talk as of now: )
JOEL, typo "joe"
Last edited by loveless; 10-17-2007 at 01:22 PM.
By the way, it's Joe Johnston not Joel. ; )
If you are producing accurate buckets with accurate paintjobs, at least as good as the MR buckets, for $100......you are going to make a lot of friends here and make a ton of sales. Can't wait to see these pics
Sorry to Bump, just replying to LOPERO.
I build the helmets as they are ordered, if you want them painted, I will do so.
Each helmet will take a day to 3 days to complete depending on there paint schemes.
It all depends if you have a preferred shipping method, if not, I send by U.S. mail.
What purchases aren’t pay up front? I don’t do lay away bro.
Pay pal is how there paid for at the moment.
And yes, if you are unhappy with your purchased item, you have a week to send it back for your money to be returned, within reason. ( don’t expect any financial returns if the helmet’s are damaged as I’m making them very durable. )
YES, there is a price difference between painted and unpainted. Unpainted regardless of size is $50 Painted is over $100 under $200.
Also, Jango is made as well as there will be any kinda paint job imaginable, but it's off of the boba format from ESB
Hope that answers your questions LOPERO…
P.S. GCNgamer128, probably not that you really care. But you doubt me and are negative. I will not sell to you.
Last edited by loveless; 10-17-2007 at 06:41 PM.
loveless - If you don't have any helmets ready, Could you at least post a picture of your bucks or moulds of your helmet to settle away some of the skepticism?
People just want proof, that's all.
Not trying to be rude, just helping you out.
I completely understand. I will post picks of the Junior mold thingy tomorrow when I get my fire wire back.
As for the adult studio deluxe, it is taking longer to do that mold cause it is being made as accurate as I can make it. : )
I'll post picks on here tomorrow guys.
I'm looking out for the best of the community, I don't want anyone to get ripped off. If you want to refuse sale to all those who doubt you, you won't be losing any customers. I don't buy from someone who I doubt will deliver the promised product. If you claim to produce MR Quality helmets for such a low price... well I see a lot of people asking for proof, and we're just not seeing it.
Where have I been?
People making MR Quality props for cheap??? Where were you when I needed a helmet a year ago??? You're making them out of styrene? No offense dude, but getting that good of quality, out of vacuu-forming is kinda far-fetched.
I would like to see pics of it as well, as I think EVERYONE also wants to.
I don't think anyone is trying to be rude, I think we just want to make sure NO ONE gets ripped off, and that you are not just lying about what you do, or what you strive to do.
Good luck with the mold and pics.
incase anyone missed his website...its in his profile
http://mandalorian-manor.tripod.com/index.html
i dont doubt that this guy can make excellent armor...i would actually like to know prices for his peices...
if thats the kind of armor he makes that this guy has some serious talent
Maybe its best to take one step back and let the pics speak for the man. As a painter myself, I can tell you that I could not paint a helmet for less than a houndred and that's just for the paint. Not to mention that it would take me at least a week to complete it so I am very curious to see a finished helmet. Question: Paint (?)...spray can or air brush? 8)
Granted he made do good work, if and when we see it. But having him put down others for the contributions in everything Fett here and for someone that claims he's got reference photos and measurements BUT doesn't know what a Borden Connector is...tends to sound the alert klaxon and not make him many friends with the community. Read the COD.As for the helmets, you can have them totally customed, but trust me, the replicas are as close to what Joel did back in 78 as anything else you will see. I am spending great time in fabricating them so they are as accurate as possible. I have over 100 reference photos and measurments and such.
And this statement:
Isn't gonna endear you any easier to the folks here. In fact, it just sounds plain childish. A better way would have been to back up your words with an actual accurate product and pics. Once that happens, GCN [right bro?GCNgamer128, probably not that you really care. But you doubt me and are negative. I will not sell to you.
If that sounds harsh, it wasn't my intention but when when you go around doing stuff like that, and advertising gear without proof, I tend to be more wary and alittle concerned, especially for the newer mandalorians here who don't know better and for the fact that we've seen quite a few newer members push For Sale items that either don't exist or isn't what they actually advertised.
Tim.
Last edited by Halo_1; 10-17-2007 at 09:12 PM. Reason: additional info
Last reply until I post picks. The helmets will not be made out of styrene. But a more durable plastic. and as I said, I am getting into the fiberglass soon.
Also, with the vacuforming, much time is spend after to sand em down and do the adjustments. I dont just suck and sell, I suckem, fix em, and then will sell them.
If anybody here is interested, I am selling a fett helmet in a few days for $50 as it is gonna be made of bondo and a kind of cardbard. Still pretty durable But the paint job alone is accurate and should be well worth it.
Again, I agree let the picks speak for themselves as some will be posted tomorrow.
P.S. I mentioned earlier, a major piece of equipment broke yesterday, I HAVE to get it fixed and am trying to do so now. Picks tomorrow guys : )
Also, not trying to rip anybody off, I have had offers to buy but am making people wait till the products are ready to ship before I let em pay. Gve me till tomorrow guys. It's comin : )
loveless, the reason many may come off as negative is really because of the attitude of your posts.
When I read your post, it came off to me as rude. You boasted the best quality helmets, as close to the real thing as you can get, for a very small price. It seemed you just brushed off every other artist here that sells buckets, saying they are way too expensive for quality that you can give for next to nothing.
I don't doubt that your helmets may look good. I do however, doubt that they will match the accuracy of the original as close as other helmets sold here. Part of this is me just being loyal to the makers (we all do that to some extent), but most of it is the fact you are pitting yourself against people who know EVERY nook and cranny of the Fett bucket. There are people here who have spent close to a decade researching the helmet, one of those guys actually helped make the MR bucket what it is.
There is also the fact of what medium your helmets are made of. Styrene is will never have the detail that other mediums will. Now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with styrene helmets for cheap, there's actually another thread where someone is selling styrene bucket for under $100. The problem arises when you claim that your styrene helmet is as close to the real deal as possible, while also disregarding the makers on this board who make superb helmets.
I tried to not come off as too rude, as I really don't want to see this thread get locked like so many others. I want to give you a chance to show your work.
EDIT
I started writing all of this before loveless made his post just above mine. I'm not ignoring what you said, loveless. I just didn't have a chance to read it before I made this post.
TEAMFETT, I am sorry I have been coming, I have been rude. Im sorry about that.
And most importantly, do not mean to say that my fett helmets are better then anybody else. There certainly not. But there not worse.
I wont post on the threads here again until I have picks of the completed helmet. If your skeptic, then so be.
Loveless,
Honestly, it's very difficult not to be skeptical of a person who exhibits the literary prowess of a third grade student and boasts about their own talent while simultaneously berating others.
I hope for your own sake that you can prove your critics wrong but until you can provide proof of your claims, you should expect some skepticism.
CSMacLaren With a picture like that, how can I NOT post what I have. I have been laughing ever since. Thats awesome!!!!!!!!
Fleshbeany As harsh and insulting as your words may or may not be, they are true. I understand completely.
What do you guys expect. This is not a thread of me selling the replica helmet, I merely said I can do it for cheaper then master replicas VERY well.
I am sorry for my past posts Fleshbeany, dont know how many times I have to say it. I was supposed to have the helmets out today, but early this month, ****** pulled my funding so I am on my own, to make things ten times worse, my main equipment just broke down on me the other day. So I have no idea when these are comin out or anything else other then whats on the website. But they are comin. I also just got brought on board a project to do a studio scale X wing and Tie fighter for a fan film ( wish I could post pics of that thing on here ). As well as making my own film for a dec. 24th release date. I am busy and broke at the moment.
I dont like showing raw work, it's unprofessional from a film makers stand point, not to insult any of the great talent on these forums.
And CGNgamer, I understand where you are coming from with your comments. I am sorry I had an attitude of, you cant play!!! That was very childish of me and wont happen again.
All I can say is that when things are up, I will give you 50% off of any item you want if you want any. That and, sorry, is the best I can do.
The fett's will be worth the wait. but stuff happens some times.
I'll shut up now...
I am doing all I can, thats all I can do. And again, I understand where you guys are coming from and dont blame you if your still skeptical, it's just gonna take a lil while...
elemental.
P.S. Photos removed as they are customs and not replicas. they dont belong in this thread. Replica photos available upon completion.
Last edited by loveless; 10-19-2007 at 04:11 PM.
So.. where are the pics of your helmets??
^^^ Oh, sorry ripcode. I removed them because I posted picks of a junior helmet. The replica helmet is in the re-design phase. I really wanna make it as accurate as possible. I will only post the final picks of the replica's.
In the Cargo hold is the inaccurate junior helmet which I am desperatly trying to slap together for my niece within the next 19 hours for halloween. It belongs in dented varients but the mods refuse to move it and seem to ignore all my pm's to them. Thats ok though, I am just happy to be on these boards.
I am also gonna use the studio replica and shrink down for child and teens.
But the final product will be in runs of maybe 10-20. And not in this thread. It will take a while though.
EDIT: Ripcode, if your worried about me talking up my work with nothing to show, look at my avatar. It cost $0.00 to make the entire costume, there is also a website.
Last edited by loveless; 10-31-2007 at 12:03 AM.
Cant wait to see the final product loveless. I have an MR on order but i would like to have an ROTJ too. If your price is really so low you have said, i'm definetly in
edit: none, sorry
Last edited by loveless; 10-31-2007 at 06:35 AM.
I'm waiting to see your "Joel Johnstons 1977-1978 design has room for massive improvement, so I also make costume helmets, close to fetts, but a lil better imho" helmets, not kids custom mando helmets...
Ahh, well, There are lots of little problems with joe's design, I am learning more and more about the fett everyday.
I noticed that everybody wants those lil mistakes, like a curved left brow, One side a lil longer then the other, ect. ect. So If I am to create a replica, those lil flaws have to be there, as thats what people want in the replicas. For me it is easier to make a clean helmet then to match his darn near if not, exactly.
So it will take a while. I am filled for the rest of the year with projects. But am slowly workin on the replica fett.
My more accurate version I guess would be considered varient.
You said this back on 10/03/07. Sounds to me like you've made them already.
Today you say this. That you are working on them??
Sounds to me like "Smoke and Mirrors".. I figured as much.
I've got to agree with you here RIPCODE. This was all after he first posted to one of my threads that "in his humble opinion", he could even make the decals I offer cheaper and better with a printout.....
I'm envisioning A LOT of smoke.....
Wow...! He did that in YOUR thread...!?!?
As much as I hate to sound out like I support loveless' claims or side with him, which I dont btw... for more information definately take a look at this thread...
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/looking-smaller-helmet-size-21283/
... but if this bantering is kept up this thread will most likely be locked by the mods...
Here Here...
Lucksy, I apologized to you. I even sent you a pm with a formal apology. I thought you were selling sticker, not decals.
The point is, I pm'd you and said sorry, you accepted it, for you to turn around and post what you posted is very very low on your behalf.
EDIT: To be perfectly honest, I dont even really wanna sell on here anymore. I will, but this is just getting sad. If anybody wants to fix my equipment, then I can make the helmets soon, if not, I have to save up to fix my equipment to produce the helmets. Lay off me.
Last edited by loveless; 10-31-2007 at 10:17 AM.
Gentlemen,
We are watching this thread.
Keep it civil or it will be locked.
Keep up the bantering back and forth, and there will be bannings.
To the Mods, my sincere apologies.
Loveless, best wishes with this endeavor.
Ya see...the pot got all strerd' upGentlemen,
We are watching this thread.
Keep it civil or it will be locked.
Keep up the bantering back and forth, and there will be bannings.
The proof is in the pudding or in this case the LACK of
Lock the thread!!! I'm tired of all the garbage about a master replica question people don't even come on here to discuss anymore and who don't even see my work when it's all over these boards...
Lock it up.
For the good of the community.
Last edited by loveless; 10-31-2007 at 09:22 PM.
Loveless,
Look at it from our point of view...you stated this:
Originally Posted by loveless
Um, yes, I make the helmets and armor very close to what was in the movies. Just as good as anything else floating around.With that, you just told everyone here you already produce 'these helmets'. BUT, you have nothing to show for it, other than to say, your equipment broke down [BTW, I'm curious, what's the name of the equipment that broke down?].pm me and i'll meet your helmet needs.
I am currently making full costumes for 3 sizes, kids, juniors and adults.
You can buy the pieces seperate, or together. The unpainted helmet is $50. Paint jobs are very cheap and very pro.
Here is the website link. It just got started, so look for massive updates every day.
http://mandalorian-manor.tripod.com/
There should be about 15 different paint designs, as well as massive armor designs from EU to OT. Cheaper then anywhere, and very durable vacuformed pieces. The photo on the website is the 3 - 6 year old to costume, just one of them.
Then, in other threads, we can find you asking questions about the Everything Fett, which shows that you don't really have the intimate knowledge about Everything Fett as the other establish Helmet builders who do their research before embarking on a build.
I asked you this awhiles back on another thread and got this from you:
That didn't help too. Can you imagine how the other members here are taking this? It will promote distrust and tag you as someone who's all bark but no bite. And that's the last thing all of us want here...especially with the newer bloods like yourself coming in.Halo 1, Most the armor I sell is custom, but do sell the replicas.
I was just wondering why they changed the helmet size. Thats all. Also, why would you come on a completly different thread and not reply to the original thread this was posted in??? You dont have an answere to the questions I asked do you?
The official size is boba, not jango. And I honestly dont have a clue as to why he has a dimple on his cheek. Care to answer any of those questions instead of smakin or trying to discredit me???
I dont see how those questions effect me creating a replica fett helmet and custom helmets.
Go talk to Tye Tigger bro, half the guys workin for him cant even tell you who's lightsaber belongs to who, but they dont have a problem with replicating sabers for the films do they.
And yes, I know alot about fett. Probably more then you as you lack the intelligence to answer my questions and instead try to discredit me on a totally different thread, get a life bro!!!
It would be alot easier, next time to actually finish a product before stating you sell these items. Even with a first build pic, the other experienced Hunters can chip in, and provide you with expert feedback on how to improve on the design, or even compliment the work you did.
Just some advice...
Stay safe and good luck.
Tim.
MODs, I do hope this was alright with you.
Last edited by Halo_1; 10-31-2007 at 09:50 PM. Reason: additional info
well said Halo 1, I think we've all learned something here. stick to what we know best. I don't mind spending good money for something I know that is.... A:good quality B:movie accurate and C: made by a respected member of this community. you know the old saying... "if it sounds to good to be true and quacks like a Duck, fool me twice.. fool me.... can't be fooled again"
B1
Last edited by Bountyone; 11-01-2007 at 07:35 AM.
I agree Halo, once again you put it so articularly.
I'm sorry.
Hey its all good, life is a learning process...
I learned the hard way not to ever trust ebay again...
Oh btw though, your last minute costume for your niece is very well done, I hope that she was very happy with what you put into it
Also keep in mind that it would be best to show progress pics of your bucket while it is being made. That way you can clear any controversy as to whether or not it is actually your sculpt.
I know it sounds weird, but we have had someone try to sell some parts without wanting to show progress pics. He only had pics of the finished product. It turned out that he was selling recasted parts. Although we've also had at one person who posted pics of his bucket to sell, and we were skeptical of him until he posted progress pics. I now have one of his buckets.
Posting pics of it still in build is better than you think.
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