Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

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    Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    Ok so I'm trying to do a ESB Paint scheme on this bucket. I'm working on the rear of the helmet you know with the earth color, trace on the damage, mask it, and then paint the dark green over. I'm using Micro Mask btw. Well heres the problem....it never ever works right....I put the mask on and then when it comes time to peel it doesn't come off right of the freaking paint smears all over even after it has dryed. What am I doing wrong?...is there a easier way to do this?

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    Walt
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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    [FONT=Times New Roman]mustard, tooth paste stuff like that works and taste great![/FONT]

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    Walteekin25 said: View Post
    Ok so I'm trying to do a ESB Paint scheme on this bucket. I'm working on the rear of the helmet you know with the earth color, trace on the damage, mask it, and then paint the dark green over. I'm using Micro Mask btw. Well heres the problem....it never ever works right....I put the mask on and then when it comes time to peel it doesn't come off right of the freaking paint smears all over even after it has dryed. What am I doing wrong?...is there a easier way to do this?

    thx
    Walt

    This is what I do and it has never failed me. Spray your bucket with Krylon Matte Finish, apply the masking fluid (I use Liquid mask from Hobby Lobby), spray another coat of Krylon Matte Finish, paint and peel...no problems. The matte finish gives it that extra layer of protection from peeling anything else.

    Wes

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    I use mustard for all my weathering. Works wonders for masking! Scrapes off easily too.

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    Groovy Thanks for the advice.

    Walt

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    Mustard!? Amazing!

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    Langsuir666 said: View Post
    Mustard!? Amazing!

    I hear people are also using toothpaste for masking.

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    I've used toothpaste for all my masking, mainly because the only mustard I've got is the good stuff and I don't see the need to waste it. Toothpaste is also thicker so its less likely to run.

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    I've used mustard in the past for my armor and jet pack. Not tried toothpaste, but seems like a pretty good idea. With the mustard I always airbrush or spraypaint with the mustard still wet and a good size glob. The paint makes a skin over the top of it and once the paint is mostly dry you can wipe off the skin and mustard pretty easily with a paper towel. This will probably be the way I do my ESB bucket when I get around to painting it, at least for the big scratches and weathering along with RS's toothpick techniques for the smaller scratches.

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    I've been using Windsor and Newton art masking fluid, when using enamels i've had no problems ( leaving the paint to dry thoroughly over 24 hours) i would imagine water based paints would give the same results...

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    I wouldn't recommend using mustard, especially if you're painting over a silver base coat as it'll stain the silver so that it looks like a dirty gold color. Not terribly appealing to the eye. I just had to strip my armor down and repaint because I used mustard, I was not amused to say the very least. So leave the mustard in the fridge where it belongs and use toothpaste or something that won't potentially make you do the work all over again...


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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    I've never used masking fluid before, I've always been using mustard

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    I just painted some armor last evening utilizng the masking fluid availbe at Michaels for about $12.00. I sprayed on my first colr, used a heat gun to cure same, the brushed on the fluid. Cured with a heat gun, added more colors, repeating the process. When the last color was cured, I used a pencil eraser, and the stuff came off perfect. Just a suggestion

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    Are you letting the paint dry well before you peel off the mask? what type of paint are you using?

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    I let it dry for about 24 hrs and I'm using the floquil paints

    Walt

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    ultra fine primer.... using a clear coat can seal the area but most are acrylic based so if your using any enamils on top it can hender the drying of the paint. works like a champ so you can combine any color or type under the sun

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    evan4218 said: View Post
    ultra fine primer.... using a clear coat can seal the area but most are acrylic based so if your using any enamils on top it can hender the drying of the paint. works like a champ so you can combine any color or type under the sun
    Thats what I was thinking, plus the silver coat tends to be a very strong enamel, I have had to toss several suspect cans of silver away and go with aluminum paint because the chrome just didnt do right.

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    Re: Masking fluid + ESB Bucket = ESB in the trashcan

    This is also what i have been using and i've never had any problems


    terminal fettler said: View Post
    I've been using Windsor and Newton art masking fluid, when using enamels i've had no problems ( leaving the paint to dry thoroughly over 24 hours) i would imagine water based paints would give the same results...

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