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Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

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    Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    As many of you know I was the lucky winner of the MARROW SUN painted helmet on EBAY last week. YES I know some of you think I am crazy to pay $1300 for a helmet. Let me first say that I truly admire MARROW SUN and his artistic ability. I also know he is a well respected member of the TDH.

    now...the helmet...WOW....MARROW SUN is the freakin MAN!!!! I can not even begin to describe how incredible this helmet is. I personally feel like this helmet is worth $2000. This type of paint job takes not only incredible skill but it also takes TIME!! I can't even imagine how many hours went into this helmet. I think MS said if you take the price I paid and divide it by the hours he put in on this project it comes out to about $9.00 an hour. In my opinion I am the one who got a great deal.

    I just wanted to thank MS for this piece of ART. He did a INCREDIBLE job and I feel truly lucky to have this helmet!!

    OK...here are some additional pics of this MASTERPIECE!!!

    oh and by the way in about two weeks the rest of my costume comes in from MAN of WAR including his ROTJ jet pack!!!!
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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Just........wow. Worth every penny, and many more!

    If indeed you were crazy to pay that much, it's only because you received a crazy awesome helmet.

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    wow...

    so, will you be wearing this, or making a display?

    i can't imagine risking someone whacking me in the head with that thing on!

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Shoot!!!

    Every time I see that thing I have to change my paints. Just saw it on the SG boards, now here. Running out of paints.

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    Its a great bucket!

    Why the ROTJ jet pack when its an ESB bucket?
    Or is there no difference between jet packs?....

    Mason.

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    AoSW style (ROTJ SE)...

    ESB is all green... almost all green...

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    Helmet is obviously incredible. I can imagine how happy you must be to own this piece of art. And art is what it is. Like all art, it is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Let's not forget that this was an auction which means that someone else, who didn't win the auction, was willing to pay just under $1300. Congrats to both you and MS, who is the happier party?

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    you have to see it in person..the pics do not even come close to the real colors. something about the camera and lights really makes the colors look different!

    shortimer52 said:
    Shoot!!!

    Every time I see that thing I have to change my paints. Just saw it on the SG boards, now here. Running out of paints.

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    it will be for a display...but I might wear it on a special occasion!!

    tk7602 said:
    wow...

    so, will you be wearing this, or making a display?

    i can't imagine risking someone whacking me in the head with that thing on!

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    Master-Jedi-Allma said:
    Its a great bucket!

    Why the ROTJ jet pack when its an ESB bucket?
    Or is there no difference between jet packs?....

    Mason.
    In the STAR WARS visual dictionary they have pics of a FETT with the ESB helmet and ROTJ jet pack. Looks really cool so I decided to do that version

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    shortimer52 said:
    Shoot!!!

    Every time I see that thing I have to change my paints. Just saw it on the SG boards, now here. Running out of paints.
    LOL, the first time I read thru this I thought it said "change my pants"
    But I could see that, too.
    Eric

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    That, is most...incredible! Now thats something to show the grandkids!




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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    I am really excited that my helmet is now featured on STAR WARS helmets!!

    check it out!!

    http://www.starwarshelmets.com/

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    I just nabbed a marrow sun helmet, in raw unpainted condition. Lets just say I knew what I was getting, and Although Im glad to have a helmet I can start on, the craftmanship, was far lower than I expected.

    I have alot of work to do!

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Darth-Malevelus said: View Post
    I just nabbed a marrow sun helmet, in raw unpainted condition. Lets just say I knew what I was getting, and Although Im glad to have a helmet I can start on, the craftmanship, was far lower than I expected.

    I have alot of work to do!
    How do you know it's a MS did you get it from him, his buckets have always come VERY clean with minimal clean up and practically ready to paint with the exception of cutting out the T-visor area. IMO his are the best available and that includes BM AND SGTF! I really have to question the source of your information because I have a MS and it is a true work of art. Would you care to post some photos including the inside, I can tell you if it is a MS or not.

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Also, really unnecessary to resurrect a 2 year old thread for that comment...

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    ...unreal...and uncool...

    I own a MS_1, and an MS_3 and I couldn't be more impressed with the quality and craftsmanship.

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    I've got an MS3 and it was ready to paint (after removing t-visor area). Totally clean. I think you've got something other than an MS original. MS signs the inside and numbers it, so if that's not there, it'd be suspect.


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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    MS does not = Mystery helmet recast on ebay

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Darth-Malevelus said: View Post
    I just nabbed a marrow sun helmet, in raw unpainted condition. Lets just say I knew what I was getting, and Although Im glad to have a helmet I can start on, the craftmanship, was far lower than I expected.

    I have alot of work to do!
    No pictures hunh? Do you even know what your really talking about?

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Got 2 MS2's myself.
    Top quality & far better than anything else I've gotten a hold of

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    Jeeze ppl, I wasnt looking for a verbal scolding here, I am, like all new members starting a new costume, going on what I was told/read/or saw first hand. Im sure Im not the only one in the forum whom has received something not quite what you expected, especially online. Still either way, its what I have, my only concern now is wether I can get into a decent trooping helmet. So sorry for being naive on this, but with all of your guidance, I can get better.

    Well, here are the pics I was talking about

    Here it lays next to a 3.5 inch floppy in all its tilted glory




    Lots of notes and scribbles all over it. saying add here, flatten there, remove curve ect.


    The diamonds on the brow are uneven and you can see the huge void in the visor opening to the right of the pic (possibly a recast of of a MSH?)


    No serial anywhere inside, lots of clean up needed in here.


    Me wearing it dont laugh


    Even with my small button nose, Im nearly touching the front of the mandibles.


    There are notes all over the mask, saying add 1/8 inch here, or add 1/4 there. So its obvoiusly needing to be lengthened.


    Ok, now that you see my 30 dollar helmet, what do you think? I know it needs alot of work, but is it right, for the size? I see lots of helmets that the faces are small inside, like the paris expo. ECT, where Im basically filing mine up.

    I was told by the person I bought it from that it was the "original mystery helmet" And that it was a marrow sun helmet. On a positive note, I dropped it while I was working on it, and not even so much a scratch resulted. Ill give it one thing, its darn near bullet proof, I think the glass is somewhere between 1/4 to 1/2 thick in most areas.

    If this in fact some sort of recast, off of a marrow sun, I apologize for saying bad things about them, as I said I was going off of what I was told, so I was only going off of it. Again, my first fett, so Im trying to figure out what to do now! Given my extremely limited budget, its what I have to work with, So I may use WOF's templates and mock up helmet to see what the size/dimension differences are, and make them correct (if possible)
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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Well, that is definitely NOT a Marrow_Sun helmet, so you were given false information. As I recall, MS numbers and initials all his production helmets, so unless yours is marked as such, you don't own one.

    I think the guys were a little harsh because a) you opened a 'dead thread' to b) bash a highly respected member's work. It happens, so don't take it personally. Just remember to check the post date before you resurrect old threads.

    To me, the helmet you have appears to be a casting of a Don Post '95, which is ALOT smaller than the Mystery Helmet.

    If you want to upgrade to an actual Mystery Helmet, contact MS or SgtFang directly, so that you know what you're getting.

    As for the helmet you have, yes, there will be quite a bit of work involved, but it can be made into a nice display piece with some patience and hard work. Good luck!

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Agree with Batninja. That is not an original Marrow Sun. But for $30, it's a lot better than some of the "ebay mystery" helmets I've seen.

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    Re: Marrow Sun Painted Helmet !!!!!!

    Let me weigh in guys. Yea, I guess you got dog-piled here so probably best to start your own thread next time. I'll bet my bucket that this cast or recast is every bit of MarrowSun/Sgt Fang/Lava origin.

    The mis-matched triangles are a "mystery" signature. Their shape is good, but they are mal-alligned indicating a cast that was halfed together vice ear-to-ear seam lines like MS and SF make.

    Then there is the bottoms of the ear moldings. The upward cant of the corners are also unique to this cast.

    Then you have the the dent in the right mandible at the level of the cheek mole (borden connector) -- also unique to the mystery line.

    The cheek corners are round, common to all 1st-gen mystery models.

    The bottom of the left cheek (the bottom edge) is bowed out just a tad instead of straight...just like the MS and SF.

    The underside view shows a little bit of the asymetry around the back sides common to mystery helmets as well.

    The last arguement I have for the MS1/SgtFang is the dome shape that is gives a taller appearance since it squares off above the left ear and doesn't pull away from the right ear cap enough. The side view is spot-on, but the frontal view of mystery helmets always have this dome irregularity (best seen in the last picture looking face-on).

    While MS might have numbered all of his MS2s and MS3s, I can say for certainty that my MS1 (circa 2005) is not numbered at all (sorry batninja) and if this helmet came from MS, it is already certain to be an MS1 based on the ears and dome alone.

    However, the dent does look a little weak, even for an MS or SF, so maybe it is a recast. Or someone piled on a lot of paint and primer (chrome layers can build up fast and distort fine details). Also, the left ear looks like something bad happened to it, so that'll take some work to fix that melty concavity.

    In any case, I think that helmet is perfectly ok and, much like batninja said, any mystery helmet in the right hands can come out great!
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