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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    Thanks for the kind words, the paint job is only 75% complete, still loads more damage to add and the R/H ear RF etc...

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    Had a fun day adding some AOSW damage!( what bank holiday weekends were designed for!) A good reason to keep all your old paint brushes, they're perfect for the scuff marks/damage as they're not as uniform as a good brush so give some random effects. By some fluke of lighting the AOSW ref pic in the background seems to match up quite well!
    At the end of this paint up i'll be posting a stage by stage list of paint/ techniques. Trust me when i say this but this paint job is not that difficult to achieve There is also an additional layer i forgot about, the white gel coat which i've exposed in some scratches using my SP pencil and around the bottom edge also...
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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    Outstanding! Really nice work!

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    I dont know what to say apart from wow 8)8)

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    TF,
    Uh-oh! I see 1 small scratch that's off by .03 mm. Total rubbish. . . might as well smash it with a sledgehammer.




    Keeps looking better and better! Looking forward to seeing some overall pics once it's done.

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    Hi TF,

    This is absolutely A M A Z I N G !
    The layered painting is really awesome!
    You have set the new standard for (layered) painting dude!

    In total awe I remain,
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    Thanks Peter, i'll say again that once you've got the technique nailed ( i think there is still room for improvement ) and familiarize yourself with the details, its not that difficult to achieve. One of the hardest elements is taking your time (this helmet is 10 weeks and counting ) and re-checking your liquid masked areas before committing to paint, one reason i like the layered method; you can tweak the detail before the airbrush comes out...

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    I've just put some paint on the R/H ear parts, mostly used liquid mask but also picked/scratched down to silver and grey layers, even exposing the white gel coat in a few areas for some highlights, once the graphics go on i'll scratch through these for the finishing details...
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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    thats shakalakling!.. awsome job on the helmet!...

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    Sorry if i'm boring anyone here but i'm nearly done with this helmet, i promise! Just re-masked the R/H top mandible area and added a purple and then red layer to pick up on the detail missed in the initial layer. Added a few more scratches through the layers to silver and dry brushed some dirt onto the top of the brow/around the ears and the smudges on the L/H mandible. The ear symbols were done with masking tape ( still need the full stops) and brush painted. I still need to add some detail within the dent and then its the final 3 colour mist and splatter! Then i'm done, still undecided on the crack repair and pen marks?
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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    TF... Have you stolen the AoSW Boba Helmet?

    AWESOME Work!

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    bored? heh... i'm just looking at this to see what else i should be doing on mine!

    i'd say no to the crack/repair myself. everything else looks cool... that is just obvious mishandling of a prop.

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    I still think you need more practice bruv... I'm just not seeing it?




    Sweet @ss! (no, not you - the lid)
    I'd not go for the crack repair personally but It's your lid... and you have gone for the exhibit version after all?

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    MAN!! This is a great paintjob
    Don't go for the crack repair and penmarks.
    It looks out of context.
    Just my 2c.:thumbup

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    TF, What mask fluid have you used?

    THX

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    WOW... i still cant believe it.. can you say REPLICA!... you'd better be keeping this one.

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    Quote Originally Posted by KaanE View Post
    TF, What mask fluid have you used?

    THX
    I used Humbrol Maskol, i found this better to use than W and N. Its a little tricky on the silver where its difficult to see sometimes but perfect for the other colours where you can check the details underneath once it drys. I've also started using a silicone chisel brush 0 gauge and soft compound. Dosen't clog like a brush and you can get some really fine detail...

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    And have you ever used Micromask? I have it, and I'm going to try with, but better if someone say how it is

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaanE View Post
    And have you ever used Micromask? I have it, and I'm going to try with, but better if someone say how it is

    Cheers
    I've never used that particular product, but would think it does the same thing?

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    Awesome lid Garrett

    I'd say yes to the repair crack but no to the blue pen marks. You gotta have the repair crack

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    Well, It's the same, a latex mask for paint, but maybe is better one or other.

    Thank you very much TF! And for the Silver paint base, what have you used?

    Awesome helmet TF!


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    Quote Originally Posted by terminal fettler View Post
    I've also started using a silicone chisel brush 0 gauge and soft compound. Dosen't clog like a brush and you can get some really fine detail...
    Can you give any more info about this? Maybe a pic?
    I'm always looking for new and improved painting supplies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaanE View Post
    Well, It's the same, a latex mask for paint, but maybe is better one or other.

    Thank you very much TF! And for the Silver paint base, what have you used?

    Awesome helmet TF!

    Humbrol Silver no.11 I found the metal cote promotes peeling if you're layering the paints although it looks great for topical painting. No.11 is a tad shinny but during the wire wool rubbing stages this fades to a dull sheen. The other thing is it's just right when it comes to picking off the additional layers for the scratch details...

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminal fettler View Post
    I've also started using a silicone chisel brush 0 gauge and soft compound. Dosen't clog like a brush and you can get some really fine detail...
    wow, great tip.

    i go through 3-4 brushes per layer when i'm painting... they get clogged to the point of uselessness, and then i toss them away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superjedi View Post
    Can you give any more info about this? Maybe a pic?
    I'm always looking for new and improved painting supplies.
    These are the tools: self propelling pencil with no led for the scratching; silicone paint brush thing O gauge chisel type (there are loads of different versions) and the stub of an old brush for the paint scuffs and shading here and there...
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    Thanks! Very interesting. I'll have to try to find one of those and experiment with it.

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    I begin to cry for happiness when I see your paint job here! Your sure this is not the real lid... For me it's a clone work !!!

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    My eyes my eyes
    awww what a DETAIL!

    you are a true artist

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminal fettler View Post
    These are the tools: self propelling pencil with no led for the scratching; silicone paint brush thing O gauge chisel type (there are loads of different versions) and the stub of an old brush for the paint scuffs and shading here and there...
    It is some-what self explanitory but could you elaborate a bit more on the techiniques you achive with each tool. I'm a bit of a newbie at this and weathering is my downfall. Looks awsome though. I wish my talents were that fine!

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    Hey, I just popped in here and for some reason never posted on this thread. But I wanted say what a nice job you did on this helmet.

    Lee

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    Looks great bro. You use the exact same mechanical pencil that I do. I know exactly what TK7602 is saying about the brush clogging. I had this as well when I was using this stuff called Maskoid. It worked well, but ate brushes like crazy. I just bought W&N pretty cheap at my local art store, kind of a new find for me. It works even better than the old stuff, and rinses very clean from my brushes after use. I can use them over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Studios View Post
    Hey, I just popped in here and for some reason never posted on this thread. But I wanted say what a nice job you did on this helmet.

    Lee
    Cheers Lee, that's praise indeed coming from the master of Fett helmet painting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AncientFett View Post
    It is some-what self explanitory but could you elaborate a bit more on the techiniques you achive with each tool. I'm a bit of a newbie at this and weathering is my downfall. Looks awsome though. I wish my talents were that fine!
    Its very simple really, the silicone brush is for applying the Humbrol maskol. Take the dome for example:
    Spray the helmet silver, mask the silver damaged, spray the helmet grey. Remove the silver mask. Mask the silver and grey damage, spray the helmet green. Remove the silver and grey mask. The propelling pencil is for the fine detail scratches, pushing through the dry paint leaves a fine chipped scratch, dragging on its edge sideways a crack like mark, doing this on recently painted surfaces has different effects; endless possibilities with a basic tool. Depending on how hard you press will determine which layer you expose!
    The stub of the brush tool i used has virtually no hair but makes some great marks; just experiment with what you have to hand, i hope this helps?

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    That's a brilliant tip using the silicone brush for the masking fluid. I've thrown out several bristle brushes because of the mask already. I'll have to pick one of these bad boys up! I never even heard of them until now.

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    in the middle of painting my lid up, help from other members suggested i take a look at your lid for colours, i can't believe the amount of detail and time you have put into this, but it was more than worth it. can't see anyone doing anything better than this, just perfect, congratulations

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    WOW! I just stumbled onto this thread. Great looking bucket!
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    Finally got round to finishing this helmet, here's what i used and the order i painted it, pics to follow:

    ESB 100% layered Humbrol colour list:

    1. white primer
    2. off white base coat 147
    3. buff gently with 0000 wire wool
    4. mask entire helmet except L/H ear
    5. spray red 60 on L/H ear
    6. liquid mask red damage on L/H ear
    7. spray grey 28 on L/H ear
    8. remove red liquid mask
    9. liquid mask red and grey damage on L/H ear
    10. mix greens 78+159, then spray on L/H ear
    11. remove all masking from helmet
    12. mask L/H ear
    13. liquid mask off white on helmet as per ref pics
    14. spray silver 11onto helmet
    15. Liquid mask silver and off white damage all over helmet
    16. spray grey 79 all over helmet, spray grey 140 onto mandibles and trim to lighten slightly
    17. remove liquid mask, lightly buff with 000 wire wool
    18. masking tape whole helmet except mandibles/trim
    19. Liquid mask silver and grey areas on mandibles/trim
    20. spray purple (73+104 approx. 2:3 ratio) onto mandibles and trim
    21. remove silver/grey liquid mask on mandibles and trim
    22. liquid mask silver, grey and purple areas on mandibles and trim
    23. spray red 73 onto mandibles and trim
    24. remove liquid mask on mandibles and trim, lightly buff with 0000 wire wool
    25. mask mandibles and trim
    26. liquid mask silver and grey on upper cheeks then spray black 33.
    27. remove mask on dome and lower cheeks then mask upper cheeks
    28. liquid mask silver and grey damage on dome and lower cheeks
    29. spray green 78 on dome and lower cheeks, lightly buff with 0000 wire wool, mask helmet except back panels
    30. liquid mask silver and grey on back panels, spray beige, 28+103
    31. remove liquid mask on back panels
    32. mask silver, grey and beige on back panels ,spray green ,76+96
    33. remove liquid mask from back panels
    34. mask kill stripes (tape and liquid), 154 fade to 82
    35. dent powder burn, 33+72 and a bit of 62
    also around edge of back and lower cheeks, very lightly
    36. liquid mask detail on R/H ear spray sand 93
    37. scuff marks between dent and kill stripes satin black 85, use old fine brush cut to a stump
    38. masking tape and liquid mask R/H ear decal, spray white 34
    39. masking tape white arc on R/H ear decal, spray satin black 85
    40. brighter red detail on R/H upper mandible area masked off seperately red 60 darkened slightly with red 73
    41. grime in arrows, around ears and on top of mandible/ dome join, 93 mixed thin with white spirit
    42. yellow glue blobs on back and side of dome, windsor and newton ink sunshine yellow, apply in layers with silicone brush
    43. spray brown 62 fine/coarse splatter on R/H side of helmet and R/H ear and splatter beige 103 onto mandibles as per reference pics
    44. hand cut ear decals from masking tape, apply satin black 85 with silicone brush
    45. seal entire helmet with 3-4 thin coats of satin cote
    46. have a cup of tea and admire your work...

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    A MA Z I N G ! ! ! !

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    I think the term DOGS BOLLOCKS is relevant here. Truly wonderful paint job a work of art indeed.

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    O.K. here's the finished paint job. The borden is cold cast brass, looks more metallic in non-flash lighting, the gel coat on this helmet was white and you can see this in certain scratches through the paint layers...
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    Spectacular reproduction and an amazing show of layered technique, that list is incredible.

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    Still room for improvement... naw, just kidding mate. Helmet looks stellar!!! I can notice some small improvements over mine and everyone thinks that I stole the helmet from Lucas so that says a lot about your work. Best feature of my costume and I firmly believe whatever I do, I will never top that helmet off. Keep up the amazing work Garrett!

    Oh, and your list looks awesome! I guess I'll just have to try and paint myself a bucket.. I already have one of your helmet as reference LOL

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    Garrett. . . wow!
    Just beautiful work. I love incorporating those 'grease stains' on the back of the helmet.

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    wow , very nice work , one the nicest paint jobs i have ever seen if not the nicest. outstanding!

    i am repainting my helmet as we speak and i hope it comes out half as good as yours.
    i am using the MR photo shoot of the ESB bucket for reference from the THD boba reference CD , what pics did you use?

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    The AOSW pics courtesy of Brak's Buddy are the best for detailed reference IMO...
    Simon Fett, unfortunately there's always room for improvement, i'll be starting another ESB next year and learning from my mistakes...
    Cheers Eric!
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    Probably one if not the best ESB paint jobs I have ever seen G... 8)
    :thumbup

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    Absolutely fantastic! Wanna trade buckets?

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    The helemt looks nice.....is there a step by step of how to paint with the stensils?

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    there should be laws against being this good

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    one of the finest paint jobs i´ve ever seen!!!!!!!!

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    What were you using to add the Humbrol Maskol? The details are so fine on some of the damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordsurge View Post
    What were you using to add the Humbrol Maskol? The details are so fine on some of the damage.
    The Maskol was applied with a silicone brush, but the fine scratches through to silver were scratched in with a self propelling pencil nib. This includes a lot of the fine edge detail on the major silver damage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminal fettler View Post
    The Maskol was applied with a silicone brush, but the fine scratches through to silver were scratched in with a self propelling pencil nib. This includes a lot of the fine edge detail on the major silver damage...
    Ah right, Thanks for the info. I am trying to get my head round all of this layering as I am going to be painting a ROTJ helmet in the next couple of months. This is the hardest way as far as I can see but it turns out the best. Thing is tho am a noob at painting!

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    That is absolutely beautiful. Great job!!!

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    That paint work is AWESOME!

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    I noticed on your list liquid mask I was wondering where you would pick that up and what kind you used.

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    Crazy-awesome detail...

    Outstanding job!

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    Quote Originally Posted by Derk Fett View Post
    I noticed on your list liquid mask I was wondering where you would pick that up and what kind you used.
    Humbrol Maskol is the brand i used, hobby stores should stock this. You can also try Windsor and Newton liquid mask...

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    I still look at my helmet and drool TF heh... I can't thank you enough!

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    Awesome work!!!!!! In my opinion it's even better than the MR Helmet on my shelf :P

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    Re: Just when you thought it was safe...another ESB paint up!

    I too have been tooling away.... there are a TON of layers. Have you tried scratching away paint for effect?

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