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    Dec 1, 2002, 1:09 PM - I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #1

    I've seen several pics of the ESB helmet on the CD and in several books and magazines. It's always a different shade of color, I'm sure because of lighting. I would like a pic that depicts the actual colors FROM SOMEONE WHO'S SEEN THE REAL HELMET AT AOSW! I've seen plenty of high quality pics! I don't care about the clarity as much as I do the colors. So for the guys who've been there, lets see what you can come up with. Even link them from the CD if want. Then I can use several from the same set of pics.

    I get the feeling they'll be disagreement on the definitive color, but I welcome it. I've never seen the real helmet, BUMMER!!!
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    Dec 1, 2002, 2:30 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #2

    This really is a good idea.....I was also thinking along the same lines if we could get the correct color on the helmet from the AOSW, someone might be able to lighten those Bespin hallway pics so they the helmet in those pics matches the AOSW helmet. This would hopefully enable us to get the correct color of the jumpsuit, cape, etc.

    What does everyone think??
    Thanks
    Rob
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    Dec 1, 2002, 2:34 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #3

    Both of you soldiers should get to it! Thats why the ESB suit is so hard to put together accurately, just nothing great to go from. Start looking into those ideas you're after and see what you come up with.
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    Dec 1, 2002, 3:53 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #4

    Well Paid Killer....
    If I had the abilities, I would definately do that. Unfortunately, I dont have any photo programs that will allow me to adjust shades and hues. The reason I posted the suggestion was in the hopes that someone with more experience and a good program could do it. Anyone out there???
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    Dec 1, 2002, 7:23 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #5

    The first thing i noticed when i was looking at the ESB Fett helmet in person, is that the green looks much darker than it does in 99% of the pics you see, it looked just like WW2 US army vehicle green to me.
    It would be great if someone could take some pics of the helmet out in sunlight, but that will probably never happen.

    Keith.
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    Dec 1, 2002, 9:05 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #6


    Keith wrote:

    The first thing i noticed when i was looking at the ESB Fett helmet in person, is that the green looks much darker than it does in 99% of the pics you see, it looked just like WW2 US army vehicle green to me.
    It would be great if someone could take some pics of the helmet out in sunlight, but that will probably never happen.

    Keith.

    Interesting.Thank you.
    Anyone else?
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    Dec 1, 2002, 10:34 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #7

    As someone who has studied the ESB helmet quite a bit, I asked the same question to those who had seen the actual helmet at AOSW.

    In any case, here is a thread with some of the variations of the helmet color. Though I hesitate to take the VD pics of the ESB helmet too seriously, as the color throught the VD is pretty bad.

    http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=1849&forum=2

    I'm sorting through photos trying to see if I can get one with very little flash.

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    Dec 1, 2002, 10:38 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #8



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    Dec 2, 2002, 2:13 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #9

    but the real problem is the color of your screen, you need to convert in photoshop to CYMK colors and print, that colors are more realistic than RGB colors
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    Dec 2, 2002, 4:07 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #10


    tylerdurden wrote:

    As someone who has studied the ESB helmet quite a bit, I asked the same question to those who had seen the actual helmet at AOSW.

    In any case, here is a thread with some of the variations of the helmet color. Though I hesitate to take the VD pics of the ESB helmet too seriously, as the color throught the VD is pretty bad.

    http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=1849&forum=2

    I'm sorting through photos trying to see if I can get one with very little flash.
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    Click on the link above that tylerdurden posted, then look at the group of Fett pics that was also posted by tylerdurden, if you look at the top left pic of Fett (the pic which is pointing out info on the helmet) and look at the green on the cheek, thats what the green looks like in real life.

    I know it looks blue or grey in some ESB scenes and it looks like its a light shade of green in most pics (the kind of green you might have on your bathroom walls), but its just dark army green and i think they would have just used a few tins of humbrol enamel paint from the local model shop to paint the original helmet, but thats just my opinion of course

    Keith.

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    Dec 2, 2002, 7:50 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #11

    I'm believing the same thing about a stock ESB color being used for the helmet. It would be a pain to custom mix a big batch of paint. Why not make life easy, and use an exsisting color. But there is nothing definite evidence at this point.


    It looks just a tad darkish in the VD pics, but I have not seen the helmet in person, so Keith would know more about how it looked in person.

    There are too many lighting filters applied in ESB to accurately judge the color.

    Tried grabbing any of those enamels and doing a color test yet, Keith?

    Humbrol Color Chart:
    http://hometown-hobbies.com/humbrol_color_chart

    Although, the fact they are enamel could be problematic...


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    Dec 2, 2002, 8:23 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #12

    Humbrol had/has one of the best assortments of military colors but they come in pretty small containers for the most part. You would need quite a few to paint the bucket. Tamiya on the other hand, has a relatively larger container. We know for a fact that they used plastic models from Tamiya extensively for kit-bashing. So you might want to include Tamiya in the search as well. Tamiya had a nice assortment of military colors as well. -Mark
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    Dec 2, 2002, 8:46 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #13

    I've used humbrol greens on my model Fetts, but when painting a life size helmet, you will find that a colour that looks much too dark when looking at the lid on the tin, will be too light when its airbrushed onto the helmet.

    My Dads WW2 US army dodge panel van has its original green paint under the head lining in the cab, the paint is in perfect condition and looks just like the ESB Fett green, but how do i get a sample of it? i'm hoping that i will find something with the same paint that i can unbolt, i will then have it matched at a paint mixing factory

    I don't think that the acrylic Tamiya paints where around back then, but i'm not sure on that.
    When i paint my helmet, i will be using acrylic, even though i think the original was painted with enamel.

    Tamiya do have a wide range of military greens, if i have no luck with getting a paint match to my Dads army vehicle, i'll probably use the Tamiya paints myself.

    Keith.
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    Dec 3, 2002, 6:30 PM - Re: I need a definative pic of the ESB helmet to show the color. #14

    Tamiya had paints back then but they weren't the modern Acrylics IIRC. Tamiya was also one of the first companys to develop polycarbonate paints for use with Lexan bodies back in the late 70's and early 80's.

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