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    Helmet Prices

    i was wondering what would be the price range for a mystery ESB fett helmet?

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    There's one on e.bay right now.

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    You looking for a painted one or a raw cast that you can clean up and paint yourself?

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    Umm painted one

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    I would figure it this way:
    Approx. $200-$250 for the helmet and another $200-$250 for the paintjob.
    SO your looking at about somewhere in the ball park of $400-$600 for a painted one. And that is a very conservative price. I have normally seen them go for much more.

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    Damn just for the helmet i seen Full suit stormtrooper armor for $500

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    Ya but your talking about a super rare helmet that needs to be professionaly painted, its like a vader helmet, there exspensive.

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    Sticker shock when building or even considering building a Fett will knock most folks down. Especially the helmet!
    There is a wide price range too! There was a mystery helmet on RPF for $285 with the face shield and alluminum stalk! All part were Raw!
    Trooper armor that is $500 is for the armor and helmet unbuilt only! Thats not considering the Body glove,gloves,boots,and blaster and assembly!

    All I can say the helmet and anything else FETT takes quite a comittment both in work and $$$!
    Goodluck!
    shunned

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    I just sold my ESB helmet for 650.00 and thats pretty inexpensive compared to some of the buckets ive seen. I saw a MSH-1 (esb) go for over a grand.

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    I doubt there'd be a TOTAL of 500 bucks in my suit, and it looks fine to me.
    The trick...make it yourself.
    If there's someone...(or someones)...making 200-250 bucks for painting a helmet, they oughta be ashamed of themselves.

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    500 bucks? I wish mine was that cheap

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    DarthBish wrote:


    If there's someone...(or someones)...making 200-250 bucks for painting a helmet, they oughta be ashamed of themselves.
    You are comparing apples to oranges. There are a few artists (and I do mean artists) here that invest not hours or weeks into a paintjob, but months. Factor in their time, level of skill, and meticulous details, not to mention using the same paints as used in the originals (compared to off-the-shelf sprays), then $200+ is not unrealistic. I paid quite a bit to have my helmet painted, and those who have seen it can attest that it was money well spent. I paint armor and such regularly, but the helmet is what makes or breaks a costume, so I left it to a pro.

    As I have said since day one, this hobby is not a cheap one. You can invest as much time and/or money into it as you want depending on how accurate you want your costume to be. It all boils down to how happy you are with the finished product. If you are content with your own, then that is all that matters.

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    DarthBish wrote:

    If there's someone...(or someones)...making 200-250 bucks for painting a helmet, they oughta be ashamed of themselves.
    Boy, have you got a lot to learn...

    Time is $$$$ pure and simple.

    I wouldn't even think of touching a Fett bucket for less the $300 if I did one, they arn't worth the headach for anything less.

    I used to charge $100 to build and paint models when I did them for people in the past and that was CHEAP!!

    I have gotten many repeat customers as they knew my work was excellent and at a good price.

    After talking with the model building pros and showing my work to them I realized I was low balling my self by as much as 100% on my prices.

    I could have easliy gotten $200+ or more for some of the builds I have done, but I wouldn't have had as many repeat customers at that price.

    Then I got smart and started my pricing based on complexity, it would start at $100 and go up.

    Time is money, and it is NOT cheap!!!

    Lynn

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    What happen to those times u traded a Chicken for a helmet

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    Quote:this hobby is not a cheap one. You can invest as much time and/or money into it as you want depending on how accurate you want your costume to be
    So this would suggest to me that unless you're willing to spend a lot of money, your costume won't be "accurate".
    Forgive my "French" here but that's the biggest load I've read in my life.
    How do you think that's gonna read to any newbies here??
    I'll tell you how it's gonna read, they're gonna think "Well gee, I don't have much money to invest so I guess I just won't bother.
    This is the ONE thing that annoys me about this board. Sure it's a good source of info, but dudes it's also becoming a gigantic billboard for people making a buck at the expense of other Fett lovers.
    Look around you.........there's very few "How to's" but a HELLUVA lot of "This guy will sell you's" or "This guy will paint it for you provided you've got the moola"

    Now, as for you Lynn, don’t tell me “I’ve got a lot to learn” and put your sarcastic little next to it.
    I’ve most likely been around longer than you have “Boy”, and I’ve learnt that it’s generally people like you, charging as much as they do, that cause over-inflated prices in everything, not just Fett gear.
    So to use a well worn Aussie expression "Pull your head in"

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    Re: Helmet Prices


    DarthBish wrote:


    Now, as for you Lynn, don’t tell me “I’ve got a lot to learn” and put your sarcastic little next to it.
    I’ve most likely been around longer than you have “Boy”, and I’ve learnt that it’s generally people like you, charging as much as they do, that cause over-inflated prices in everything, not just Fett gear.

    Your funny, At the age of 37 I'm hardly a "Boy" and I have been building and painting things for 30+ years...

    I'm a pro at what I do, time is $$$ that is just the way it is.

    Do you your job for free???? I hardly don't think so, neither do I. If you don't see it that when people charge for to do something then that is your problem. As I said, You have a lot to learn in this subject.

    My prices are cheap and my work is top notch, I just wish I had the time to still do it.

    I have done over 40 jobs for people in 2-3 years with many repeat customers, Time is $$$ and my prices are hardly over-inflated.

    I still have people today, 2 years after I have stopped building for people, still ask me to do stuff and I have to turn it down just because I don't have time.

    Lynn



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    Don't presume to "know me" to point of what you think I need to learn. Thanks Pal.

    I guess there's only one way of seeing what's justified and what's not.
    Why dont you give us all a little breakdown of the $250...(spelt d.o.l.l.a.r.s)...that you think you're justified in charging for a bucket paintjob.
    I cant imagine the masking tape and paint bill being much more than $30.
    So, even if you charged $10 and hour that's.......hmmm, let me see, 20+ hours.

    Gee, you think you'd be quicker with 30 years of practice.......but then again, you are a "pro"
    g g

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    Ok, take it easy now. Bish, as you said yourself, the key is to make it yourself. Many of us here do just that, and save alot of jing by doing so. It also tends to be "a learning curve" as people learn, they get better, and upgrade their suit over time. Here, like at the RPF, people who have interest in having a Fett costume, but are unwilling or unable to do it themselves, sometimes become members here. They are as welcome here as any other member. They come here looking for sources of parts, info, etc. I think it is fortunate that there are members who can supply items, whatever the price. Nobody is forcing anyone else to buy goods or services. If you can do it yourself, That's great, but if you can't, there's others here who offer. Anyone here is welcome to offer their services, for whatever they think is a fair price. If someone thinks they can offer paintjobs for a lower price, and still be worthwhile for them to do, I'm sure they'd be well recieved. Nobody here is preventing people from offering "budget" services, but for some reason, they aren't in abundance. Maybe those who don't like the current market rates, should sacrifice their own time and provide the service at what they deem to be a "fair" price.



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    Well, before Bish gets this thread locked, I thought I'd chime in.

    I used to make sets of sintra armor all the time. I started by dremmeling the stuff in my basement sitting on the floor with a cardboard box as a workbench. Despite the sore throat from the sintra fumes (yeah, I was ignorant to the dangers), the hours of working and risk of injury (dremmel disks snapped and flew in my face a lot of times on tight corners) I still sold them to help finance my own suit.

    Costs
    Sintra = roughly $5 of sintra per suit.
    Dremmel = let's say $3 in wear on my dremmel and disks (just a guess)
    My health and safety = free but not cheap
    Time = let's say 5 hours per suit if you include making my own boxes

    Average sale price on Ebay = $65

    That's $11.40 per hour for my semi skilled labour.

    Now, try having something custom built in another country and shipped to you home and offer the poor sap $11.40 per hour to do it. Good luck!

    Now, as far as newbies and accuracy go - yes, accuracy costs money. That's why I never complained that my knee darts weren't "accurate" because I used about $0.30 worth of hardware from work to simulate darts. I wasn't ashamed of them at all. If I insisted on importing a dental tool from England to put in my helmet's cheek - I better not complain about costs.

    Now, if I try to sell you a Canadian voice amp for $200 US that I just walked to the store and bought for $43 US, then you can call me a damn thief.




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    Re: Helmet Prices

    My 2 cents...I'm falling on the side of Lynn here. I'm one of the fortunate souls who does not need any painting sevices and I really enjoy doing that kind of thing myself. However, having painted several helmets in the past I also know the amout of effort and time that go into them. 20+ hours is not at all unreasonable.

    If there people highly skilled at building/painting, (and I can think of a few), who are offering their skills, I think simple economics dictates that they be compenated according to their skill, just like any other area of our economy. Quality always costs more anywhere you look from cars to furniture to someone finishing your basement. You can't expect a master of his craft to give away his product for peanuts.

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    Quote:
    This is the ONE thing that annoys me about this board. Sure it's a good source of info, but dudes it's also becoming a gigantic billboard for people making a buck at the expense of other Fett lovers.
    Look around you.........there's very few "How to's" but a HELLUVA lot of "This guy will sell you's" or "This guy will paint it for you provided you've got the moola"
    THANK YOU and WELL SAID, its about time someone said it!!
    I agree with you BISH, I've been a freelance artist/painter for over twenty yrs now and I think that the MSH "unpainted" helmet is SOOO over priced to start with that adding "additional" charges like, Time , Labor, TALENT/aka SKILL, is WAY over priced on this board...and completely unfair.
    I love Fett, but your comment is the biggest reason why I don't post here much, not enough real specifics on "HOW TO's".
    By the way I have two "Do it yourself" helmets, ESB and ROTJ. WAY CHEAPER than any top rate helmet on this board, and I consider ALL my artwork top rate.........GREAT POST BISH.

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    Re: Helmet Prices

    I personally have been doing most of the work myself on my helmet. I chose a M_S Enigma helmet due to its quality as well as price. Yes it was a raw cast and yes I did have to do alot of the work myself to get it ready for painting. I have spent quite a few hours getting it ready for painting. Would I spend $500-$600 on a helmet. No, because I know I can do it myself for less and use the extra cash towards another part of the costume.
    Rogue Studios painted some helmets for TDH members a while back and yes he charged a price for it. I think he did somewhere around 6-8 helmets. It took him a few months to complete the job for them members working countless hours in doing so to acheive precision screen acurate quality. I personally feel he was justified in his price which I was told was above $250 for the paint job.
    He has a thread on these boards which lists every color he uses to paint the buckets as well as a tutorial in doing them yourself.
    SO, if you think it is not justifiable to pay the price he is asking to paint it for you. Then you have the option to "Do it yourself" with the techniques he layed out for you.
    BTW, I am painting my helmet using Rogue Studios Paint Selection forthe airbrush and after I purchased all the colors needed, the price for just the paints was $75 for the 16 different colors needed.
    This is an expensive hobby and I welcome any newbie to come and begin working on their own costumes. You CAN do it on a budget but be ready to do alot of the work yourself which is more rewarding in the end anyway.

    PS. Thank You to all those that have spent countless hours working on projects and doing the research so we can all have the best costume possible.

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    E2K13 wrote:

    I would figure it this way:
    Approx. $200-$250 for the helmet and another $200-$250 for the paintjob.
    SO your looking at about somewhere in the ball park of $400-$600 for a painted one. And that is a very conservative price. I have normally seen them go for much more.
    Great points, But let see the actual totals...
    I'm talking..

    Helmet price: "MSH", maybe $80-$200.($80.00 is what I paid for my first MSH helmet, had a slight crack, Thanks Marrow-Sun)

    Supplies:
    Paints: You stated 75.00$?? for all 16 accurate paints..

    Masking: Tape:7-10$, or masking fluid: 12-13.00$

    Visor: 10-12.00$

    Aluminum/range finder: 12-25.00$

    Sand paper: 10-12.00$

    Finishing: Dull coat Testors 5-6.00$
    Very General, but am I missing anything in regards to the basics?

    TOTAL: 340.00$(high side with helmet being 200.00$, which is too high in my opinion)

    After that you're saying that a quality paint job/labor "very conservatively" is almost an ADDED 300.00$ or MORE ....????????????

    That's Ridiculous, talk about poking your eyes out..!!!!
    Just doesn't make any sense to me.




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    Spideyfett wrote:


    you're saying that a quality paint job/labor "very conservatively" is almost an ADDED 300.00$ or MORE ....????????????

    That's Ridiculous, talk about poking your eyes out..!!!!
    Just doesn't make any sense to me.



    Why ridiculous? A decent spray job on a M/C crash helmet over here (UK) would cost you more and take half the time.
    Your paying not only for parts/paint but for the level of skill involved. Pay cheap, you get cheap. Pay for quality (ie more expense) ,you get quality. If you have the money to have a professional paint it (which I don't) I say pay for it. If not then do the best job you can possibly do yourself ,but don't begrudge those who can afford as that just comes over as being bitter.


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    DarthBish wrote:

    Don't presume to "know me" to point of what you think I need to learn. Thanks Pal.
    Anytime! Glad to help in that area.

    We are just on the opposite sides of the fence on this, you don't want to pay to have something done, so you do it your self.

    Other people don't want to or can't do it so they go to someone who can and they will pay for it.

    I don't do a break down of the fees for services rendard, 40+ jobs done I never have, never will, never needed to, never have been asked to because people knew I WAS REASONABLE and there was NEVER a question of kind of breakdown of what I did. I could have gotten alot more for my services, but I wouldn't have done as many jobs either at higher prices.

    My fee's have always included all materials, paints, equipment at times, and what ever else needed to do the job.

    If I took 1 hr to build and paint something or 50 hrs to do something, my fee would be based on complexity but the base prices for building a kit was always $100, period.

    The time to build and paint a kit is not worth taking my time away from other things in life.

    You guys that are bitching about helmet kits and painting prices you need to get a reality check called DON POST STUDIO'S.

    That helmet called a DP DLX Boba Fett helmet sold in the mid late 90's for $1000-$1500+ at times when it came out new and people where buying them up like hot potatoes, and they were grossley inaccurate and had terrible paint jobs, and looked hidious, yet people where still gobbling them up.


    Now we have the most accurate of helmets and some top notch people offering awesome painting services that are the most accurate to date and very affordable at a FRACTION of the price of a complete DP DLX....

    Get real, you need to think of the DP DLX to put you back into reality of bucket prices and services..

    Lynn






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