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    Aug 11, 2008, 9:23 AM - Helmet Interior: UPDATE: PICS of V1 #1

    I know marrowsun has a sweet interior kit for helmets. Im wondering if its acurate? Is there a schematic or some photos of what its theoretically supposed to look like? Or is it just a creative license sort of thing?

    See last post for details
    Last edited by Stormrider; Sep 6, 2008 at 8:19 PM. Reason: Pics Added
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    Aug 11, 2008, 9:34 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #2

    Its based on the Riddell mini helmets. The "real" helmets had nothing inside except for some minor padding and a chin strap.
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    Aug 11, 2008, 10:21 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #3

    thats what i wondered thanks webchief.

    now ill look for a picture of that:0
  4. Aug 11, 2008, 11:03 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #4

    Was just lookin' around and found a great site HERE There are great pictures of all the helmets i think.

    Hope it helps.
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    Aug 25, 2008, 5:06 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #5

    Well, after looking around at the source, and seeing whats available, and the source material, i cant find any cannon info for the helmet. It appears that riddell made up the interior based on a couple of different old tech drawings. Vader helmet, trooper helmet, etc.

    That being said, i decided to scratch build my own using the same information, which made them end up quite a bit more detailed, but not what everyones used to

    Thanks for the help
    SR
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    Aug 26, 2008, 10:21 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #6

    Stormrider said: View Post
    I decided to scratch build my own using the same information, which made them end up quite a bit more detailed, but not what everyones used to

    Thanks for the help
    SR
    You're gonna show us your progress, yes?
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    Aug 26, 2008, 12:22 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #7

    http://mercs.firespray.net/forum/index.php?topic=7516.0



    Heres the plugs, earcaps and a test pull of my 'bad' mold. The mold didnt cure because one of the gap filling primers inhibited it. Made for a 'grimy' pour in the corners.

    Provides a nice weathered effect, wont look good if you go for the white, clean look.

    The new plugs (models) are on the last page, I finished the new center rear last night, working on the blocks now.

    Images from that thread to show some details:
    Original plug while working. prototype.
    http://www.starwarsuniverse.com/kit/12.jpg

    My rubber/foam combo used to make a custom earpiece.
    http://www.starwarsuniverse.com/inte...rPrototype.jpg

    Actual pulls of the pieces, from the old, bad molds. New molds will be a 2 piece squish.
    http://www.starwarsuniverse.com/testpull.jpg

    Closeup of problem with mold.
    http://www.starwarsuniverse.com/closeup.gif

    New internal sides not yet molded
    http://www.starwarsuniverse.com/new1.jpg
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    Aug 26, 2008, 12:26 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #8

    On a side note, if anyone has a riddell mini helm they want to 'loan' me, send it to me, ill send it back with a set of foam interior kits with it
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    Aug 26, 2008, 12:34 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #9

    pm sent
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    Aug 26, 2008, 7:18 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #10

    Ok, still looking for a riddell with the interior. If anyone has one please pm me, even if you can just send me detailed pictures.

    Thanks
    Mason
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    Aug 26, 2008, 7:39 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #11

    PM Sent
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    Aug 26, 2008, 9:08 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #12

    can't help on the riddel, but what you've done so far looks fantastic!
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    Aug 26, 2008, 10:23 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #13

    wow stormie, nice work...wish i couldve helped more with the mini...really anxious about this thread...definantly keep us posted brother...
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    Aug 27, 2008, 7:17 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #14

    BFett25 has offered to let me BORROW his mini to use as source material for another version of these. Hes going to mail me one, and Im going to return it with the full size foam/rubber interior with it

    Im going to finish these in the mean time, as these are a little more 'functional' than the riddell from what I have seen.

    I have placed pressure blocks, and pieces in all the places a normal head hits the helmet.

    Once I get the new helmet, or get a pull or two of this one done, ill post more

    Thanks again BFett25. It is much appreciated.
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    Aug 27, 2008, 7:49 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #15

    Looking great so far bruv... can't wait to see what you do with the 'Riddell' versions. 8)
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    Aug 28, 2008, 1:20 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #16

    Bro, you do just amazing work!!!
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    Aug 29, 2008, 8:39 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #17

    Very cool work :thumbup !!
    I like the greater details of the parts.
    It just looks more realistic than the Ridell interior.
    What's the name of the foam/density that you're using?
    I'm having a problem with a totally different project that
    needs a thin skin on soft floppy foam.
    Thanks
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    Aug 29, 2008, 12:31 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #18

    Well, I am using the polytek f5. I think its a 5 density. I dont know if theres a shore hardness for the foams. The softest rubber ive found is 30.

    This foams skinning properly in the mold but i have a theory why. Im working with alumilite locally to get a better foam working. They have a 3 thats nice. its like nerf but smaller, more uniform cell density. Its not ready yet.

    Send me a pm about what your making and ill see if i can help you get what you want out of it.
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    Aug 29, 2008, 12:52 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #19

    Awesome work!



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    Aug 30, 2008, 12:16 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #20

    The helmet arrived today! It looks totally different in person that int does in these pics. Amazingly enough.

    Im workin on the model as other things dry/heat up.

    Thanks again for the helmet loan BFett25. Ill send you progress pics as I go

    Mason
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    Sep 1, 2008, 9:06 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #21

    Update

    The 'aged' version of the molds is making good pulls. Ive pulled about 5 from it, and have the process down to minimal flaws in the finish surface.

    Heres a pic of the pulls. One with a bonded silver flake coating, that makes it look metal. The other in onyx black rubber.

    These have actually been the preferred pieces to everyone ive shown, because they look used. The new ones are super clean, and I think they look like stormtrooper plastic instead of fett metal. But ill let you be the judge when I get the pulls up.

    Input welcome.




    The pictuers arent the greatest, poor light on my pool table, but i think it shows well enough where it is.

    Send me a pm if you have any questions.
    Thanks,
    Mason!
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    Sep 1, 2008, 9:08 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #22

    BTW Ill have pics of a set installed this week.
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    Sep 1, 2008, 11:15 PM - Re: Helmet Interior? #23

    fantastic, brother!! cant wait for you to finish!! i would like to be put on your list for your first run... these are going to be awesome!! i like the silver colored ones in the first pic...more metal looking...did i say these are awesome!!? great job mason...skills brother...let me know details on getting one of these bad boys, mason...you know i am in!!!
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    Sep 2, 2008, 7:30 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #24

    Im working on the 'cube bubble padding'. I sculpted and sanded them, but they didnt have the right 'shape' They were missing something. So I sculpted them again, and put them inside of balloons!

    The hard foam, inside of the baloon, giave it a nice finish, and gave it the 'air filled' look i couldnt accomplish by sculpting with an exacto knife.

    I had to get tin based silicone to then mold it, as latex and platinum dont like each other.

    Now im making the run offs of them, and testing a black paint to make sure it works with the silicone i have. The blocks should be about done today.

    I also ordered some other, softer foams, to test because this foam is maybe a little firm with the rubber. To get good shape they are compressed 5-7 lb/ft im going to try the 'nerf foam' in the next batch, which is a little softer.

    Ill update tonight with some more pics.

    Thanks for the interest brother.
    Mason
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    Sep 2, 2008, 9:08 AM - Re: Helmet Interior? #25

    Cool MAson, I'm glad you got the helmet ok. Sorry I haven't posted just got back from D*C. The pics look great! Can't wait to see the finished ones!

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