Got my mystery helmet today! (pic)

And i love it!! The proportions are dead on. I'm convinced that it was casted off an original ROTJ helmet at Don Post like the rumor says. It has some small things about it just like the original, the dent seems dead on for example and. The casting on the helmet is very crisp and do not need much work at all before painting it. Just cut out the Visor area, sand away the seam and trim the edges at the bottom. 1 hour work maximum! The resin pieces were also very crisp and totally free from bubbles. It's perfect for making any type of helmet, but i think it's best suitable for either a Pre-Pro or Rotj version. Hats of to you Sarge for a kick-*** bucket! I love it and strongly recommend this to everyone:)
It's gonna be a awesome Pre-pro!

http://www.katode.org/noguchi/web/te...teryhelmet.jpg

Cheers,
-Mikael

It is a awesome helmet. I love mine, and it looks good turned into a Jango as well. :)
Lynn

Great helmet, cant wait to see what you do with it. Can I send you my MHK so you can finish it too? :) just a joke. :lol

Man, I am drooling!!! :suprise
I am waiting for mine to arrive in the mail!!!

Hint...Hint!!! Sgt. ;)

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micke wrote:
And i love it!! The proportions are dead on. I'm convinced that it was casted off an original ROTJ helmet at Don Post like the rumor says. It has some small things about it just like the original, the dent seems dead on for example and. The casting on the helmet is very crisp and do not need much work at all before painting it. Just cut out the Visor area, sand away the seam and trim the edges at the bottom. 1 hour work maximum! The resin pieces were also very crisp and totally free from bubbles. It's perfect for making any type of helmet, but i think it's best suitable for either a Pre-Pro or Rotj version. Hats of to you Sarge for a kick-*** bucket! I love it and strongly recommend this to everyone:)
It's gonna be a awesome Pre-pro!

http://www.katode.org/noguchi/web/te...teryhelmet.jpg

Cheers,
-Mikael

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nicee...


but is it me or your bucket..but the two "triangle" on the forehead are not in line....... =x

How would it work for Jango?

The crooked arrows are a feature found on the Don Post deluxe helmets. The original helmets do not have crooked arrows.

Yes, I do believe the MH is a very early Don Post Deluxe prototype-- cast from a real helmet with some modifications being made to it. However, it has not had the extensive modifications that are seen in the final DP Deluxe.

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Foxbatkllr wrote:
How would it work for Jango?

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Very well,

MSH Boba, Mystery helmet Jango......
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...twohelmets.JPG
Size is VERY nice when comapared to the MSH.

Lynn

:suprise

That looks very nice for Jango!

Whoa! Nice!

I assumed the Mystery Helmet was going to have less flare than the Movie Sized Helmet... but they look almost the same exact size in that photo.

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Kda-Ledét wrote:
Whoa! Nice!
I assumed the Mystery Helmet was going to have less flare than the Movie Sized Helmet... but they look almost the same exact size in that photo.

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Yes, they are close in size, not exact, but close.

Lynn

How big is it earpiece to earpiece?

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Lynn TXP 0369 wrote:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...twohelmets.JPG
Size is VERY nice when comapared to the MSH.
Lynn

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:fettrotj :jango wow those came out awesome!!! I would love to get a bucket like that -

noob question..

why is called a "mystery helmet"?

badger

The answer lies in this thread:
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic...c=3028&forum=2

But . . . to save you scrolling, here's what the original Mystery Helmet owner, Sgt Fang had to say:

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Roughly 3 years ago, I bought a rough, primered, fiberglass Fett casting off eBay from a "KBoyette". At the time, the price was right, I knew I could make it nice, and it looked good.
I just took for granted that it was probably a DP Deluxe recast, but as I set about cleaning it up, and started having to really look at the details to repair them right, I started noticing more and more discrepancies-
The DP visor was shortened by roughly a 1/2" on either side; Mine went all the way back.

The DP's had pre-done battle damage- scratches, bumps etc. Mine, while rough, had no real pattern to it's texture, and was more indicative to me of a well used mold that's surface was nearly worn out, rather than deliberate damage.
Also, it was noticeably larger than any of the other Fetts I'd seen.

Finally, around January or February last year, something in me ganged up and said "ASK AROUND about this thing", so I posted a thread on the RPF called "Sarge's "Mystery Helmet", asking people what they thought it was. After a week or so of debating, someone, who's probably forgotten more about SW armor than I'll ever know, posted that he knew what it was, and that my original was one of 10 bootleg copies that were made by Don Post employees while they had an original film used helmet in their possesion for laser scanning. This was for the development of the DP Deluxe Boba.
I was amazed to hear this, and of course patted myself on the back for having a good eye.- When I bid on the auction, I had no idea what it was, I just remember looking at the pics and thinking "Yeah, I like the proportions on this one- it LOOKS like Boba!"

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Jaster Mereel wrote:

...I would love to get a bucket like that...

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me too, me too :doh
:D

Lynn and Ego-

Thanks for playing press agent for me! :p I've been in and out of here all weekend, and just had time to really sit down to read and reply to things!

On the triangles-

The original fiberglass one I got was even worse. Whoever ran the mold, split it down the center of the face, and evidently didn't put in enough registration keys, so that it would line up perfectly every time. I tried to cheat it back to being perfectly in line, with a jeweler's file, but it got to the point where if I went any further, the triangles themselves would have been asymetrical (bringing the top of one up and the bottom of the other down), so I ended up just splitting the difference.

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Jaster Mereel wrote:
I would love to get a bucket like that -

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This brings me to something I've been meaning to address for a few weeks. How much demand is there still for these kits? The original molds are starting to show some wear, and making a new one, for the main body, is a pretty fair undertaking. The current mold is still producing pretty good ones, but I have to "baby" it a little. I've noticed the rubber's getting a little brittle, the seam edges are starting to show more little 'boogers' than I like, and parts of the surface are trying to pull away from the jacket.

If there's still enough serious interest (8 or so people), I can get started on a new mold in 2-3 weeks, but I'll need a definate committment before I tie up the materials.

Thanks for the kind words folks, and I'm glad everyone's pleased with theirs so far! :D

-Sarge

[EDIT] syntax error :p

pm sent

Mine's a replica of a DP Deluxe, but doesn't have the crooked arrows in the forehead.

Robert :fettrotj

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/TylerD.../dp.deluxe.jpg

This was/is Deano's Deluxe, and my deluxe also has slightly crooked arrows, as well. And it's always the left arrow that is lower.

JUST GOT MY Mystery Helmet TODAY! :):):)

Beautiful work!!! Thanks Sgt.Fang!!!

I started working today on my MHK, great helmet. By the way, what have MHK owners have used for trimming the visor area? Should I use a dremel??

Thanks.

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I started working today on my MHK, great helmet. By the way, what have MHK owners have used for trimming the visor area? Should I use a dremel??

Thanks.

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I don't know about everyone else, but I use a dremel with a fiberglass reinforced cut-off wheel. Try to go from the inside and go slowly- let the tool cut at it's own pace. Just be sure to use goggles, a dust mask, and have LOTS of ventilation!

Glad you like it Bob!

-Sarge

[OH! Be sure to check out my "Make-Your-Own visor sanding block" thread for a great gadget to assist in final fitting of the visor!]

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Defiler wrote:
Should I use a dremel??

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I used a dremel as SgtFang suggested. I also used a hacksaw blade from a junior hacksaw kit. Then I sanded it. It's a 5 minute job, tops! :D

Cheers!
TJ

Thank you very much for the tips, will start cutting the visor over the weekend. :) I finished sanding the excess resin today and also finished cutting the key holes.

I've trimmed the helmet now, sanded the seams and filled the dent:) It's coming alondg nicely. It's a joy to work on this helmet! I also cut the key-slots in the back. Soon i will start with the visor area, the worst part of the process:/..
I did't take any pics during the process. Did'nt have a camera at hand. I used a dremel, sandpaper and some small files.

-Mikael

Here is mine so far. I only used sand paper and an exacto knife. Do you guys think the key holes are ok??

http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/img/mhka.jpg

http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/img/MHKb.jpg

http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/img/MHKC.jpg

http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/img/MHKD.jpg

http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/img/MHKE.jpg

Are the helmets here from Skygunbro?

No, the mystery helmet was cast off the original ROTJ helmet when Don Post was in the process of making their Deluxe helmet. Sgt. Fang bought one of these casts not knowing what it was at the time and fixed a few of the problems. It is called the Mystery Helmet because he wasn't sure of its origins. Anyway, Skygunbro makes a DP95 recast.

Actually, that is not entirely correct. The helmet that was sent to DP was a real Fett helmet, but it was not the original ROTJ helmet.

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Foxbatkllr wrote:
No, the mystery helmet was cast off the original ROTJ helmet when Don Post was in the process of making their Deluxe helmet.

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Sgt Fang said this though:

"After a week or so of debating, someone, who's probably forgotten more about SW armor than I'll ever know, posted that he knew what it was, and that my original was one of 10 bootleg copies that were made by Don Post employees while they had an original film used helmet in their possesion for laser scanning."

Has the story changed since then?

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The helmet that was sent to DP was a real Fett helmet, but it was not the original ROTJ helmet.

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So it was an original ESB helmet then?

I would like to see a side by side comparison of the mystery helmet and a reg DP 95 or 96.
Much thanks,
ST

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The helmet that was sent to DP was a real Fett helmet, but it was not the original ROTJ helmet.

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So it was an original ESB helmet then?

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I don't think so, because it's smaller than the ESB helmet.

Here is a DP95 recast (bigger than normal DP95) next to a mystery helmet, courtesy of jeezycreezy:
http://www.geocities.com/esbfett/helmet.html

Edit: Here is a QUICK comparison I whipped up in photoshop based on jeezycreezy's pics with the DP95 recast on top of the MHK:

http://200.72.163.179/cdref/tdh/img/dp95mhkcompare.jpg

Wow Fox you ROCK :D the mystery helmet is way bigger than the Fiber glass DP. Many thanks.
Cheers,
ST

The MHK is a bit bigger than the Delux DP. Its a great helmet easy to work with.

On the left is my 95 DP and the right is my new Mystery Helmet. Check out the size difference!!!

No more pin-head Fett for me. :lol
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-2/104801/2A.jpg

Yeah but if you give me a MHK, I'll look like a bobblehead :(
I think I'm doomed to wear DP's the rest of my life.

Hey guys,
I'm heading out to a convention, I'll look back in here as soon as I get home tomorrow night!

Thanks for all the Kudos! :)

-Sarge

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Foxbatkllr wrote:
Yeah but if you give me a MHK, I'll look like a bobblehead :(

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Fett is supposed to look like a bobblehead, that is what he is supposed to look like, in some pics he looks like one.... I said the same thing as you and BraksBuddy told me just what I told you. :)
Lynn

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tylerdurden wrote:
Actually, that is not entirely correct. The helmet that was sent to DP was a real Fett helmet, but it was not the original ROTJ helmet.

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It could have been off a ROTJ stunt helmet, but Sarge did say it was off a screen used helmet. It is one or the other, but it dosn't look like a ESB cast.
Lynn

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Jango_Wes wrote:
Are the helmets here from Skygunbro?

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No, His are 95 DP fg casts.
Here is a pic of mine that that is one of his casts:
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/81bc3...3P7B_AlsrPWxgo

If the pic doesn't show up you can see it here:
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/sithje...c=bc%26.view=t

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Foxbatkllr wrote:
Yeah but if you give me a MHK, I'll look like a bobblehead :(
I think I'm doomed to wear DP's the rest of my life.

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Well, honestly...if you wanna look film accurate...you're supposed to be a bobble-head! :lol

Fett was definitely a bobble-head on film.

http://www.theforce.net/multimedia/a...ack/fett02.jpg