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Getting a helmet - where to start?

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    Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Hello all!
    First time poster here...a total newb, I'm sorry about ^^' I've tried to rummage around here looking for answers as best I could before making this post...but chances are the obvious was right in front of my face, so I apologize now if I'm asking what has, no doubt, been asked dozens of times before.

    So, I'd like to get armor at some future date, which is why I'm here of course I decided to start with the helmet, so even though I don't plan on being Boba Fett, I hope I've picked the right forum to ask a general helmet question.

    Just where do you start? I've seen mentions of the DP 95, the "mystery" helmet, etc. What's the best helmet to start with for a complete novice? How do I tell which eBay sellers I can and cannot trust as far as whether the mold they're casting from is good/bad, and whether they're sanctioned by the armor community?

    What's a good price, depending on the helmet, and what's a price that is "too good" to be true? I seem to see a general range of $50-$150 for the resin kits and am trying to figure out what makes one cheaper or more expensive than the other.

    I know, a lot of basic, beginner questions. I haven't been able to troop much with people other than Stormtroopers, and the one time I remember getting to look at a gal's Boba helmet, I was too much in awe coveting the helmet to listen to what she was saying about how she made it...

    The littlest push/shove in the right direction would be so very appreciated.

    ~Scruffy

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    I think the ''mystery'' helmet is a good helmet to start with.

    And dont buy helmets from ebay, just ask around TDH for sellers and then email them.


    Ruben

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Sgtfang sell sthe mystery helm your looking for. and DP95 i have no clue where to look.
    For the price range your looking at i would go with Sgtfangs. If you can budget higher then theres bobmaker and FP...

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Sgtfang has a post in the cargo hold right now. There is a link out to a post on the RPF about his current sale. I'm currently working on my fang right now.

    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=24283

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Is there a big size difference between a mystery helmet and the DP helmets? In the shots Sarge has in that thread you linked to...it looked the DP wasn't as wide as the mystery one. Which, as a girl, it seems like I'd have better luck with a DP just because it might fit my body frame better. I'm a pretty average build at 5'5"...I can't see how a helmet that fits a man well could also fit a woman just as well.

    ~Scruffy

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    There is a size difference between the DPs/Rubies and the 'mystery' helmets. The standard DPs are undersized to begin with.
    Also, with the DPs being made from a flexible vinyl, you'd more than likely have to do some reinforcing so it keeps its shape.
    The mystery buckets are resin (some are reinforced with fiberglass) so you have a really good rigid helmet. They're also more accurate shape-wise.
    I guess it depends what your goal is. If you're going custom, then either should suit you.
    Like DutchFett said, be very wary of what you see on ebay.

    Welcome to TDH! Enjoy the craziness.

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    thanks for the comparison superjedi! and the welcome

    It's a somewhat hard choice. I want a helmet that fits the size of me well...but I also want a well-made helmet...so if it comes down to it, I'd rather have a bigger, sturdier helmet, than a smaller, flimsier one.

    Thanks for the second heads up on eBay too. I'm used to eBay for some things in costuming, or if I know exactly who the seller is...but trooper or fett armor is a whole different story and it seems like it's best to always get gear within the group.

    ~Scruffy

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    For your size Victoria, you are probably better off with a DP95. It will look more proportional. If you get a DP95 in good shape, it won't need reinforcement and will be more sturdy than the later year Don Posts/Rubies.

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Take a look at some screen shots. Boba does have a rather largish helmet. Almost bobblehead like. I would defenitley go with a mystery size helmet IMHO. If you do go the DP route, you will want to reinforce it with a craft ring or something to retain its shape and flair.

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Foxbatkllr said: View Post
    For your size Victoria, you are probably better off with a DP95. It will look more proportional. If you get a DP95 in good shape, it won't need reinforcement and will be more sturdy than the later year Don Posts/Rubies.
    If you do the DP, the 1995 model is the best one to get. The are usually white inside. (not always) The 96 is passable and I would not get a 97.

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    What is the deal with the DPs? Did the make of them just get crappier as years went by and the 95 was their prime year?

    ~Scruffy

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    scruffyrebel said: View Post
    What is the deal with the DPs? Did the make of them just get crappier as years went by and the 95 was their prime year?

    ~Scruffy
    Yes.

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Welcome to TDH scruffyrebel!

    Just thought I'd chip in my 2 cents as you and I are the same height (5'5). I have a SGT fang and I just bought a DP95 from the cargo hold, which should arrive on monday. I could post some comparison pics once I have them both in hand if you would like to see the size difference.

    Jordain

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    I wish I would of asked that question before I ordered mine. I got mine and read about how never to get a rubies and then I looked the box and it said "rubies". It's made of vinyl and any hint of heat will make it very moveable and flexible, it's a pain in the *** so don't get a rubies. ever

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Jordain said: View Post
    Welcome to TDH scruffyrebel!

    Just thought I'd chip in my 2 cents as you and I are the same height (5'5). I have a SGT fang and I just bought a DP95 from the cargo hold, which should arrive on monday. I could post some comparison pics once I have them both in hand if you would like to see the size difference.

    Jordain
    Yeah that would be so helpful! It'd be much appreciated.

    ~Scruffy

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    when i get back home i can post size comparisons as well. by the way, i sent you a pm scruffy

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    saint_nasty said: View Post
    when i get back home i can post size comparisons as well. by the way, i sent you a pm scruffy
    Yeah I saw, thank you very much! I'm still on the fence right now as to which one to go with. But knowing that there's a DP 95 readily available is really awesome.

    ~Scruffy

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    Hey Scruffyrebel,

    Finally got a chance to take some comparison pics, hope these are helpful!
    I haven't had a chance to modify either helmet yet, so this is what they look like "out of the box".

    The Don Post 1995 (holding onto the sides to make it flare.)


    The Sgt. Fang (has no padding so it is sitting a bit low)


    Comparison 1:


    Comparison 2:


    Comparison 3:


    Comparison 4:


    The DP:


    The Fang:


    Good luck with getting yourself a helmet.

    Jordain

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    sruffyrebel - I too am 5'5" (and proud of it!!) and my full size helmet seems to be pretty good for size. If I do dress the part of Boba (only making my helmet for display purpose really) I would feel comfortable just wearing a bit of a lift in my shoes and maybe pad out my shoulders to seem broader. In fact, when I put the full size lid over my (small) noggin I sometimes wonder how people with larger heads fit in there comfortably. I have room, sure, but not so much as I would have expected.

    By the way.... I gotta ask... is that you in your avatar and banner pics? I thought I was looking at the real Leia for a moment. You look fantastic (if I can say that without it sounding like I'm being creepy). Seriously, you look the part perfectly.

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    After looking at the pictures again, i feel like they make the Fang look really big compared to the DP...that is mostly due to the fact that I was holding the DP at the right height, while I just let the Fang sit on the top of my head (which made the visor sit at the wrong height).

    I photoshopped both pictures and sized them to match each other (using the TDH logo on my t-shirt for reference) and here's a comparison pic that I think shows the true size of the helmets better.



    (The helmets are lined up at the bottom of the mandible.)

    I think both helmets would work great, it just comes down to what type of material you are more comfortable working with (resin or vinyl), and the DP needs to be modified to have the correct flare (among other things). I really love them both.

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    With a paintjob, new visor, and a little shaping, you can get the DP95 and 96 to look pretty good. You will need to go to ebay or the occasional sale in the Cargo Hold for a DP. Just go with a DP95 or 96, and stay away from the 97 and Rubies. You should be able to get one in the $50-60 range. Here is a DP96 I did up awhile back-


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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    I think I'll post here because I have basically the same questions!

    I'm also female and even shorter (5 nothin!) and not only did I want to have some bits custom shaped, one size fits all hats do NOT fit me. My last two graduations, no amount of bobby pins would hold that damn thing on my head! I'm about to try a custom, but most of the time everything I'm reading you have to know what's being talked about to understand what's going on! I was thinking about doing a cardboard and I guess covering it with... bondo? but I've seen some where it looks like plaster instead of really smooth, so I don't know if I should go that route. Any hints on good scratch-built methods for prop n00bs?

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    There are soo many types of helmets its nuts! heh... Wat would you guys say is the best/ most accurate helmet and is it 501st worthy or do you suggest totally making your own? I've heard different names of helmets thrown out there but are these helmets you guys troop in or just display?

    Also is being 6'3 going to cause problems??? Im a bit on the taller side.

    Scruffy I wish I knew more about this so I could be of some help heh...

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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    the helmets that bradleyfett makes are smallish. they are vaccuum formed, so the details aren't the sharpest in the world, but they come together nicely.

    for a sense of scale, here's the MB next to a mystery helmet:


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    Re: Getting a helmet - where to start?

    I personally really like Marrowsun, Sgt. Fang, or Fettpride(all members here), however since your a young lady and you want to look proportioned a DP 95 might not be a bad choice since it's smaller, just make sure you get one with the WHITE interior. About $50-$100 off ebay if you can find one.

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