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    Aug 18, 2013, 11:14 PM - First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #1

    Hey guys,

    Long time lurker, first time thread poster here. I've started my own build recently with the helmet and the blaster, and I'm getting to the stage where I need to either:

    - source paints and materials to start my own pain job, or

    - source professional painters who would be able to complete the paint job for me.

    Seeing as I've never been very good with paints and I don't have access to an airbrush (I'm not too sure of the details but I'm fairly sure an airbrush job would be better than a spraycan job? Right?) I've decided to find an artist who can perform the paint job for me. As this is easily the most iconic part of the Boba Fett costume I want to make sure it's as authentic as I can get it. But here's the rub - I'm on a budget, and I have no idea how much something like this would cost.

    Any Airbrush artists out there who would know how much is an appropriate cost for a full ESB paint job?

    I've also labelled this as a WIP thread, as from time to time I'd say I'll be posting my completed works in here! It's on a budget too, so I'll try to post materials for people who aren't looking to buy authentic items or spend a crapload on authentic parts - it's always nice to know there is an alternative to some expensive things, especially when they're easy to get and cheap!

    Cheers!
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    Aug 18, 2013, 11:41 PM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #2

    the esb helmet is probably one the most detailed helmets in Star Wars so it'll run about $400+ for the paint job alone. You should give it a try, never know what your capable of and you can always start over.
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    Aug 18, 2013, 11:53 PM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #3

    Quote sleepalot said: View Post
    the esb helmet is probably one the most detailed helmets in Star Wars so it'll run about $400+ for the paint job alone. You should give it a try, never know what your capable of and you can always start over.
    Ouch, that is a bit pricey. Might try it myself as you said, I could be better at it than I think!

    I'll post some pictures of my progress later on, but thanks for the advice!
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    Aug 19, 2013, 1:32 AM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #4

    I got my airbrush and pump for about $200, and it might take you $100 in paint (I am using Jayvee's thread and color list). Of course theses numbers are plus or minus

    Once you get the airbrush you can always use it later, and if you like painting you can always see about doing more later!
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    Aug 19, 2013, 1:57 AM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #5

    Quote LongHammer said: View Post
    I got my airbrush and pump for about $200, and it might take you $100 in paint (I am using Jayvee's thread and color list). Of course theses numbers are plus or minus

    Once you get the airbrush you can always use it later, and if you like painting you can always see about doing more later!
    This is true! I wouldn't factor it into my budget either as I would probably use it on future projects. That being said, what do you guys think about using ordinary spray paint? Would it be worthwhile, or should I consider a better quality of paint?
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    Aug 19, 2013, 10:01 AM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #6

    I will most likely be using spray paint. Nothing wrong with it I find
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    Aug 19, 2013, 10:08 AM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #7

    thing with spray paint is not all paints get along....and if your on the third layer and they react badly for some reason...you get to start fresh
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    Aug 19, 2013, 2:45 PM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #8

    AFFOD and Stormtrooperguy's list is pretty solid though isn't it? (For ROTJ)
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    Aug 19, 2013, 2:58 PM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #9

    Not in my opinion colors are to dark besides the rear panels...
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    Aug 19, 2013, 4:18 PM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #10

    Quote Fett 4 Real said: View Post
    Not in my opinion colors are to dark besides the rear panels...
    I noticed that...especially with the red. The green I didn't notice as much - but I've looked at so many different greens between all the helmets and armor that I'm losing track.
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    Aug 19, 2013, 4:27 PM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #11

    Moved to paint list thread
    Last edited by AFettFullofDollars; Aug 19, 2013 at 7:20 PM. Reason: Moved to correct thread
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    Aug 19, 2013, 8:35 PM - Re: Airbrush Pricing for ESB Helmet #12

    Hi, moderators?

    Any chance we could change this thread title to 'First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build'?
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    Aug 20, 2013, 8:49 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #13

    Thanks guys!

    Starting my builders bog (Aussies holla) render tonight after giving it a go on the earpieces last night and seeing it work perfectly this morning. I'll post pics as soon as I have them, but for now here's some iPhone pics of my helmet build so far:

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    The last image is of the modelling epoxy stuff i used as a replacement for the stuff you guys call bondo... didn't work very well, so I just ended up getting builders bog (same as bondo)

    Also featured in these pics is the West Wing, Battle Royale, Lego Millenium Falcon (the newer model), a Los Pollos Hermanos chicken bucket (with blue meth inside) and an old 8800GTS

    more pics as I progress!
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    Aug 21, 2013, 9:46 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #14

    Started spreading builders bog on the dome last night. Checked it a couple of hours later and the bog had developed a crack down the side of the dome! Ended up using more of the bog to paste it up and I haven't checked it since. If all else fails, I'm going to wait for it to set completely and fill in the cracks again before completing the sanding job. More pics to come.
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    Aug 22, 2013, 8:56 AM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #15

    Quote Solaris said: View Post
    Started spreading builders bog on the dome last night. Checked it a couple of hours later and the bog had developed a crack down the side of the dome! Ended up using more of the bog to paste it up and I haven't checked it since. If all else fails, I'm going to wait for it to set completely and fill in the cracks again before completing the sanding job. More pics to come.
    An update on this... I've sanded it down, and now the crack is the least of my worries. The material I've used seems to be too soft, and scratches away with my fingernails. Is this normal, or does it just need to be sealed?
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    Aug 22, 2013, 10:57 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #16

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    This is the state of the helmet so far, by the way. Is it just me or does it seem too long? obviously haven't sanded it down to a T yet but I'm thinking about replacing the white layer with something more substantial, as I said before it's very chalky and will leave indents if I press too hard with my fingernail.

    Any thoughts on this process?
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    Aug 25, 2013, 8:38 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #17

    So I spoke to a tradesperson family member who advised me that I could just seal the spakfilla with a coat of paint and it should be ok. Started working on my homemade gauntlets today too, I've noticed there aren't many tutes on this on the net, so I'm going on semi blind. Hopefully will work out well!
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    Aug 25, 2013, 11:05 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #18

    looks to be coming along very nicely. keep up the good work.
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    Aug 26, 2013, 7:41 AM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #19

    Looking good! I'm working on my own bucket using WOF's templates (which are absolutely AWESOME!!!) I've not yet gotten past the first cylinder assembly (inner surfaces), kids and back to school is taking time out of the build...

    Builder's bog, isn't that the stuff used for doing drywall joints and such? That stuff's really hard to get to settle into any kind of "solid" state without a really stiff surface underneath and without a good surface coat (in building, that's usually 2-3 coats of paint...) I've not used Bondo yet for helmets or armor, but I've done some bodywork on cars and the stuff STINKS! It does a brilliant job of sanding down smooth and being solid, but you can't work with it anywheres indoors because of the fumes.

    I see you tried the Pebeo acrylicstuff. I was looking at that too. What was the issue with it?

    Might even get a WiP thread going if I feel like I'm not messing up too badly... ;-)

    L8r!
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    Aug 27, 2013, 7:25 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #20

    Quote jmchabot said: View Post
    Looking good! I'm working on my own bucket using WOF's templates (which are absolutely AWESOME!!!) I've not yet gotten past the first cylinder assembly (inner surfaces), kids and back to school is taking time out of the build...

    Builder's bog, isn't that the stuff used for doing drywall joints and such? That stuff's really hard to get to settle into any kind of "solid" state without a really stiff surface underneath and without a good surface coat (in building, that's usually 2-3 coats of paint...) I've not used Bondo yet for helmets or armor, but I've done some bodywork on cars and the stuff STINKS! It does a brilliant job of sanding down smooth and being solid, but you can't work with it anywheres indoors because of the fumes.

    I see you tried the Pebeo acrylicstuff. I was looking at that too. What was the issue with it?

    Might even get a WiP thread going if I feel like I'm not messing up too badly... ;-)

    L8r!
    Thanks man! WOF's templates are godlike, I couldn't believe someone could be that good at craftwork. Keep going at it, I think the hardest part will be the painting. If you follow the instructions you'll get a great helmet.

    Speaking of builders bog, I ended up going with fibreglass resin after speaking with a guy at Bunnings over the weekend. He told me it'd be perfect for the job, easily sandable, no problems to paint on, and waterproof to a degree. I'll let you know how it goes but it seems really promising. I've been working on gauntlets and armour the last couple of days but I'll be doing my first coat of fibreglass resin and sanding down over the weekend - I'll let you know how it goes!

    The Pebeo stuff isn't too bad and goes quite hard, but it sinks in instead of retaining shape. Maybe if you were to mix it with Plaster of Paris or flour or something
    that would thicken it up. That being said, I might give it a go again on the helmet as a thin layer on the dome, it might end up working well.

    Sol
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    Aug 28, 2013, 12:09 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #21

    Cheers Sol. I was looking at the Pebeo stuff at my local arts store and was wondering. I'm mostly working inside so polyester resin/fiberglass would be too fumey... Might have to ask my neighbour if I can comandeer his garage for a fortnight...

    Incidentally, I know a lot of folks are having a hard time finding the cardboard for this in North America, mostly because it's called something else or other from one place to the next. Here's what I used:

    Peterboro Mounting Boards, 28 x 44 in. | DeSerres

    Things are coming along here too. Hopefully I can get a few things moved along soonish!

    JMC
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    Aug 28, 2013, 7:45 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #22

    Yeah I hear in the States they're called mounting boards instead of cardboard sheeting. It seems like a lot of people have been using Bondo though and having no issues with it, so that might still be the best way to get the dome done.

    Sol
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    Sep 3, 2013, 6:39 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #23

    I'm getting to the point now where it looks pretty shabby, but as soon as it's primed/sanded I think it will look fine. I added the dent and the ears and here's how its turned out (phone quality pics, sorry guys)

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    As you can see the mechanism looks kinda awful but rest assured, it works very well.

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    I'll be priming/sealing possibly over the weekend, but I'll be working on my ESB EE3 during the week (I'll probably use this thread to post pics of that too)
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    Sep 10, 2013, 2:42 AM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #24

    If you want some help with painting send me a msg dude cheers
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    Sep 10, 2013, 11:16 PM - Re: First Attempt ESB Cardboard Build #25

    Thanks man, that's really helpful! I'll drop you a line at some stage!

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