FETT PRIDE cc WIP ; )

Hey guys- Well as I was nearing the finale of my sons hasbro mod, well... I decided to take the plundge and try my hand at an ROTJ lid for myself. That being said I contacted..yes...Asok. After explaining to him what I was doing, and that I needed a reasonably priced lid I could practice on, he was grascious enough to let me know he had a slightly "weathered" FP cc. Well, the rest is history, and after recieving the helmet after only 2 days I couldnt wait to get my hands on it! After getting home from work this evening, having dinner w/ my wonderful wife and son I embarked on my journey. Below are some shots of the initial stages..please feel free to comment as this is my very first build, as far as a helmet goes.

Fresh bucket out of the box


Post trimming the bottom w/ a dremmel for the first time..yes, ive never used a dremmel LOL


CC comparison


AND...the first run-through w/ the 0000 steel wool


Some of the blemmishes im still working on, but overall I feel its a great start. I plan on spending some more time buffing out the cc as well as eliminating the blemmishes as much as possible, and what I cant get rid of...ill weather it : ). Well, all Its 11 PM and im calling it a night. Again, please feel free to help me along.
Thanks
B

Looking really great mate, nice work with the dremel as well (I know how daunting they can be). Those cold cast lids are something else when buffed up.

How are planing on painting it, airbrush, rattle can, layered...?
I Look forward to see what you do.

Very nice job, indeed. You'll become a master of the Dremmel in no time!

Looking good bro can't wait to watch the progression of this lid!!!!

you have my attention....I will be watching this thread.

Thanks guys! May the force be w/ me during this ; )...

Looks good. I love how you say ""weathered" I call it beat by the USPS

Hey Asok LOL!!! ya but hey...
when all else fails..JUST WEATHER IT"

Yeah. That is the "O' Natural" weathering!!!"

Mandalorian helmet....lightsaber proof, but not USPS proof.

LOL...Thats great Mullreel

Alright guys- Spent some time working on some of the blemmishes. There were just a few very small cracks so after talking w/ Fett7 I elected to use glazing putty from Napa auto parts to remedy that situation. Pretty great stuff, and it dries very fast as I applied it at 2, and was able to sand it around 7 this evening. Although im going to sand the uneven areas over the next couple of days....here is what ive done so far.

Sanded glazing puttty over ear


Although this looks a bit rough, its actually muuuuch better. Still wanna get a bit smoother though


These were a few of the tiny blemmished areas in the back panel




I also managed to get the T-visor cut out using a combo of dremmel and heavy duty scissors..thanks for the advice deadland!

Looking good, now all you need to do is cut that visor section out of your helmet and we can get that visor mounted.

Thats the tricky part like i said to mullreel i think...the visor are is very thick with resin...have a file handy to get in there good

Hey guys- Will do tomorrow deadland..and will be waiting for my "personal T-visor training"...
Fett 4 real- Dremmel the section out, then file smoothly correct?
Thanks
B

well....u have to dremel it out as best you can the corners are tough to get with the dremel i file in there...and what i meant by file is the resin is thick and un even around the opening so ur gonna need to level it out so the visor will sit in there right

Cool thanks!

see what i meant how thick the mandible area is

Hey Fett- Yes, it was...I did about 1/2" lines at a time and it worked out ok. Howd you file yours? Do you have pics?
B

no pics just used the file and a dremel with a grinding bit

Thats what I did to my Asok CC

Alright- Moving right along...Managed to dremmel the visor section down to a reasonable thickness first, using the sanding bit on the dremmel, then smoothing out w/ 80 grit sand paper. Once deadland assists me with the visor install, I will mask all of the silver (cc) areas w/ some new masking fluid Fett7 recommended as its a bit thicker and easier to work with.

This is what I was talking about see the far helmet how on the lower back plate the artist has painted black on to the silver now weather there is liquid mask under parts of the blak or she scratched them of its hard to tell but for your purposses liquid mask the spots that stay silver the dust a coat of black with a light dust of gray on a few uneven patches like in the image same goes for the dome with the grey under the green liquid mask of the area that stay silver then hit bits of the dome with the gray

if that makes sens

Hey jinto- Yep I see what you mean. Ill mask the "silver" parts then for some of the areas I will dust a coat of blak and grimy grey, then mask those.. then hit with the main color. Does that make since? Thanks again, I really think this will add another dimension.
B

It makes alot of difrence , remember to use liquid mask on the bits that stay silver under the black (the scratches) Also being its a CCand not paint if you gaff up and need any new or extra scratchs it wont be to hard to simulate them with out havbing to worry about going through the silver paint , how ever there are bits were the white of the gelcoat shows through so youl need to paint them on
,I believe the one in the far end of the pic is the ROTJ, so try and imitate the black in the same form Sandy did

Ok great..will do! If u have any more photos of the sandy pics can u email them or let me know where to find them?

Well guys- Nothing like a cup of coffee, Toy Story, and sketching on you BF FP CC on Sunday morning : )..So, I began sketching some of the pertinant weathered spots..you know, the "upside down Christmas tree, the "sad dog", and the "drooping dent". Anyways, I have also added a comparison pic (hope FP doesnt mind) as his ROTJ pics are amazing to work with, in order for you guys to see placement and spacing. It seems to be prett darn close. Feel free to comment.

Upside down Christmas tree


Drooping dent


FP image


dynamic1 image


Placement

Can't wait to see how the scratch damage is going to turn out with a cc base. Look good so far.

That "reference" photo isnt of the real deal is it? Reason I say this is, theres no misting under the green in the top splotch of silver....as seen in MoM photos of the actual helmet. Having painted a few ROTJ helmets I slowly noticed as did a few others after researching the Sandy helmets had a misting of dark grey or black over the silver before paint...check out the pic from the gallery and look at the MoM for actual pics of the helmet using other peoples work is like passing a message down a line of people something always gets lost in translation

Also in the ROTJ images in the misc images the heilman photos are a good reference from the helmet BEFORE it got trashed by mishandling

Awesome! I do have a couple of the MOM pics im referencing...I tend to bounce around to get different angles..a little from the MOM, a little from FP etc..Thanks. I can really see the misted black like you have been telling me, especially on the larger weathered spots. Is the dent misted?

Ok, I got all the weathering sketched out and a coat of Krylon clear coat as instructed by Fett 4 real. Once I get the visor installed and the silver masked I will begin the paint process. In the meantime, here are some shots as of today.

No flash






Got the gouges

Excellent work! Watching with much interest.

not sure if your done drawing but the left cheek has more stuff exposed under the green than you have in pencil

Hey Fett, most of its there but some didnt show up in the photos : ), and some im just adding w/ the masking fluid. I mainly wanted to get the real noticeable shapes, then add the rest.
Thanks
B

Thanks Splat!

Here is a close up of the finished Left cheek for you guys...Thanks Fett for all of your input!

No the dent isnt misted there is some misting around it though ,

Wow...that looks fantastic...hope my ESB is build is half as good...thanks for all the detailed pics

wow good work

Thanks Phantom and bubba! Phantom, ill be looking for your ESB.
Jinto- Thanks man. Yes, I will be sure to mask of the dent then mist very lightly around. Im going to go really light w/ Fett 4 reals technique that he has shared w/ us as I havent done it before : ). I can always add more.
Thanks guys

Not to downplay FP's helmet at all, but it's never a good idea to use ANY fan work as a reference, even something that good. We all make mistakes / cheat / cut corners / miss details. It's like anything else... a copy of a copy loses quality, then a copy of that copy loses a bit more.

Particularly since you can get every angle of the real RotJ helmet out of the galleries here, I'd say stick to just those.

It looks like you are off to a great start!

Hey stormtrooperguy- Yes, I agree. I have actually gone back and altered some areas as I have been using the MOM photos. The photos you see above were all using the MOM images. Thanks for the input as I really am learning a ton from you guys!
Thanks
B

Alright guys- After deadlands phenominal help w/ the visor install, a little skewing issue w/ the mandibles (due to removal of visor), some UN-SKEWING : ) of the mandible..well as good as I could get it, I was able to mask and mist the dome this evening. I will most likely post some pics tomorrow evening as I would like to finish the second session of masking ( the black and grey misted areas), followed by the greens. phew!!! Deadland and I have also discussed that it would be best to follow a light version of jinto and Fett 4 reals misting and color protocal due to the fact I am rattle-canning (not air brushing). Once completed, I will have deadland detail via airbrush as there seems to be a good amount of overspray as well as progressional fading ( especially the back). Anyways, stay tuned for this evolving thread.
Thanks
B

Alright guys..just as I promised... I have delivered! Here are some shots of the dome w/ the liquid mask removed. Overall, I am extremely pleased w/ the outcome so far. In order to remove the masking this time I used a rubber glue remover which allowed me to pull the latex, then clean off the excess. Also, although the pics arent the best of qualities, you can see the light black and grey misting over some of the "metal" areas.









Obviously the actual ; )

got pretty close with it

I like the way the coldcast comes through. Nice progress!

Thanks Clone! The cc really pops on it.
Fett- Ya, I figure when deadland gets on it w/ the airbrush we can get more detail w/ the grey misting and black overspray. I wanted to be conservative this time around due to the fact that if I went too much..theres no going back LOL!
Thanks guys!

Hey all- Just peeled the masking on the posterior of the lid, with a paper clip added the scratches and miniscule black markings. Let me know what you guys thing thus far? This evening I plan to mask the lower cheeks and attempt getting the greens acurate.

Looking good man Looking good!!!

What color green did u use on the back panels looks a little dark

Thanks Deadland!
Fett- Its a mix of Krylon satin-hunter, and Spruce just as I did for my sons. Its brighter than the picture shows and very close the H photos..If you look to the far right of the 2nd picture you may get more of an acurate estimate. Also, I misted some charcol over the far right. Sorry, the pics are from my iphone so not the best quality ; ). Thanks for the input guys I plan on hitting the lower and upper cheeks saturday and sunday followed by the claret/ maroon early next week.
B

Gotcha...i think I use rusto hunter green satin...its pretty green looking

Hey Fett- Ya, I find w/ the rattlecans its challenging to get that back spot on as far as the brightness. I feel like I did get it pretty close..well, see how it comes together. Ill be looking for your input when I get the next group of pics up. Thanks man.
B

This is a great thread. I am glad to see that I was on the right track cutting out and sanding down my visor area. Now that I see yours, it is nearly identical!

Thanks DarthVeach!
Question guys: With respect to the "lighter green" patches on the cheeks, is it actually a misted lighter shade, or a solid shade with a patch liquid masked off followed by a light black mist...then, once the masking is removed it appears lighter? Below is an example. Notice the upper area on the lower cheek.
Thanks

What I do is put down the mask mist the grey, then mask again...then spray green, mask then mist grey again

Thanks Fett- Ya, I did the first part as you did although I misted some grey at the start as well. Im going to mask again tomorrow, hit green and mist. I dont want to get too dark because when I hit the blue on the upper cheek, the reflection really seems to darken the lower cheek making the lighter colors pop. I noticed this on my sons hasbro and was thankful I didnt go darker. Thanks man! Just as I thought.
B

Ok guys- As planned I was able to work on both cheeks ; ) today. I used a method very similar to Fett 4 reals however, w/ a slight twist. Once the silver was masked I lightly misted dark grey primer. Once that dried I masked those bits and sprayed a combo of greens then masked the "lighter green" areas. I then VERY CAREFULLY misted again. Once that dried I removed the masking fluid unveiling the lighter areas. Although, there is still a bit of detailing I will be doing along w/ deadland doing some finishing work w/ his airbrush I am pretty happy w/ the finish at this point. Below are a few photos of this process.
Also, I have documented this whole build step-by-step on a word document if anyone is interested I will post that?

Hey guys- Completed the fett in Iconic fashion LOL.....well, im actually laying down the claret and maroon tomorrow but just couldnt pass up this rediculous photo op! I can hear the TV special now.."Notice the beautiful folliage which lies on the anterior aspect of this stunning helmet...this speaks bounty bliss" LMAO! Stay tuned guys.
B

This is looking promissing

Well Ill say it , Im impressed you have done your self proud!

Ears and back center panel need hit with dark grey and then scuffed but otherwise its looking good

and i didnt read very well till after i posted...but get dark primer grey

Thanks so much guys! I'll hit the ears w dark grey primer today or tomorrow. Btw, any threads on installing lights in RF...I'll browse around to see what I find.
Thnx again

Thanks so much guys! I'll hit the ears w dark grey primer today or tomorrow. Btw, any threads on installing lights in RF...I'll browse around to see what I find.
Thnx again

Looking awesome.... starting to warm to the ROTJ helmet......

that's looking really good!

You guys make me jealous. I'm a lousy painter! Awesome job!

That thing looks GREAT! Awesome job, B

Hey Stormtooperguy; Thanks a ton man..your color palet is about as close as we can get w/ the rattlecan!
Vegan; Not quite as good as yours looks ; ), ive seen that thing up close and personal..thanks!
BooBoo; Thanks for the amazing helmet skirt! Anyone whos looking for a great skirt look no further!
Captsolo; Ya, Im digging the ROTJ...not to say that im not gonna have deadland slap an ESB paintjob on my next one ; )
B

Dude that thing looks great you did a fine job on it and should be proud can't wait to see it up close and personal!!!!

Hey buff Fett, This is how I do my ROTJ and other Sandy painted ears
I think with the ears you should tape the rest of the helmet andplace the helmet on the ground (do this on a large drop sheet of on the grass )with the left ear facing up and from 5 feet above spray your gray then some black then a brown , do this a few times and it will build up over spray and then go around with a file or sand paper on the edges andd try recreate the scratch patern on the ears when dry do the same to the other side

Dark grey and Khaki work really well for this

What advise do you need onm the RF
Im partial to adding some black to the mix as the real ones seem to have black in them

Hey BG-Ill post some pics of it..it came w/ and alluminum rod and resin parts that need to be trimmed and sanded if this helps? How do I put together, and what do I use..epoxy etc?
Thanks
B

I use a dab of superglue...paint the inside silver and the outside silver...let it dry paint black on the outside....but leave the silver inside...so the clear resin doesnt look dark

Hey Fett- Got it! Thanks. Also, how do I paint the lens, and how do you prefer to mount the stalk to the actual RF?
Thanks
B

Hey B bring it with you next Thursday night all trimmed up and will get it knocked out, and maybe some of the extra misting done too if you are ready.

Originally Posted by dynamic1

Hey Fett- Got it! Thanks. Also, how do I paint the lens, and how do you prefer to mount the stalk to the actual RF?
Thanks
B

I used nuts a bolts hard to explain really...kinda put nuts on a bolt...drill the stalk screwed the bolt into the hole tight...cut the head of the bolt off...attached the RF topper with the nut that was on the bolt when I stuck it into the stalk...that way it rethreads the bolt after dremeling the head off...

Oh cool! Will do man...ill wk on it this week. Thanks dude
B

B - This thing looks fantastic! The 'bug' bit you....and bit you GOOD!!! I see a full Boba in your near future!

Hey Obro! LOL ya, it did...shoot me a txt tomorrow, my wife and I will be getting to the bowl around 6 or so.
Thanks
B

I had the opportunity to shoot this gorgeous thing tonight. Wow.

Flight has been booked. I told him Cairo, but actually I'll be heading to Montenegro. He will never see this helmet again. Keep it to yourselves.

Anyways, the paintwork is outstanding, with a new attachment method for the right earcap (one small screw rather than the usual magnets).

Enjoy the photos. This thing is a darling...

WOW!!!!! These are absolutely BEAUTIFUL Man! Thanks so much!!!

Holy ****!! That thing is GORGEOUS!!! Well done Brian.

Originally Posted by OBrotherRacing

Holy ****!! That thing is GORGEOUS!!! Well done Brian.

Hey J- Thanks so much!

Helmet and photos are both amazing!! Great job to both of you.

amazing helmet, congratulations XD

Originally Posted by ABE

amazing helmet, congratulations XD

Thanks Abe!

Awesome looking helmet!

Wow those pics turned out great well done Brian on the paint job and Ryan get work on the Pics!!