The “Eyes” Fett helmet colors

I’ve been looking around for info, been hitting up the hobby stores and what not.

Right now im having a hard time finding a close much less accurate color of green for the Eyes helmet.

Anyone have any options or ideas?

From what I can tell the color used to outline the "eyes" is a dark green maybe to the blue side.In the photo with the helemet being held the "eyes" seem to be a close color to the color of the arch on the side of the helmet.

Sorry to go off topic for a second but what book are those pictures from?

Originally Posted by MandalorianWarrior87

Sorry to go off topic for a second but what book are those pictures from?

Star Wars Chronicles I think

Originally Posted by KaanE

Star Wars Chronicles I think

Thanks

The photo with the black background is from the "History of Boba Fetts Helmet".It is a image put together by a memeber here.Do a search here for it,it should be easy to find.
The other two photos were pasted from "Wookiedia".Their source of the photo there is listed being from the book titled "Aurra Sing : Dawn of the Bounty Hunters (Star Wars Masterpiece Edition) ".

Thanks for the info

Originally Posted by KaanE

I think that they used the same colours than ESB or PrePro 3 (both have the same colours), why change? with the Sandy, PrePro 2 and RotJ they never changed, so why they must change only the colours of one helmet.

IMO they used the same colours than ESB except the right ear that has a greenish blue (the left ear is all silver ).

I had another member here tell me it was kind of a mint green (Not going to say whom). I see your point and I agree with you, but I think it's a lighter color. Just need to figure out what color.

I think that this is only the light, a bad light can distort the colours, as you know, you can use the colour that you want, but think, if the PrePro 3 and ESB have the same colours and the PrePro 1 is related with these 2 costumes (Like all the Sandy's costumes are related and have the same colours) why to use another colours?

Please, see this pic, it looks the AoSW colours but without a lot of weatherng on the red and maybe on the green:

But you're the chooser

I'd say that Brunswick Green is a good guess for the under cheeks. The dome could be German Field Gray, but it's hard to tell in those old photos. Good Luck!

I don't think the colors of this helmet are the same as on any other helmet out there. In no light does this helmet look even close to any of the others. That red is too bright to be the same as on the ESB helmet. I agree that the bluish color it appears might not be accuate to how it appears in real life and that is a lighting trick.

Thanks to the ref CD.

Even the red looks diffrent at times. But I cant see the ESB colors in that helmet. Then again ive been wrong before, many times.

A few more pics to kick around.

Most photos have a blue shift to them, and a lot of the pics from the SW chronicles have a green shift as well. It's still not perfect, but gives you a better idea of the color.

Well, in this pic:



The rest of the colors in that shot seem pretty close to what we are familiar with. Based on this, if I were to paint one, I'd probably go for a slightly bluer cast to the ESB colors.

Most of my colors are custom mixed on the fly by misting multiple rattlecans together. I'd probably hit it with a couple of layers of the blue I use on sandtrooper backpacks, mixed in with the sage and moss greens I usually use.

Originally Posted by BOBA PHAT

Most photos have a blue shift to them, and a lot of the pics from the SW chronicles have a green shift as well. It's still not perfect, but gives you a better idea of the color.

Ive noticed that, kind of like the old 70's picks. These days we are so used to clean pic's.

Any know where I can get like swatches for Modle Masters, Polly Scale, Floquil, Etc?

I cant see its the same as the normal green we are used to. If it were a trick of the light then the other parts of the costume would appear very different as well. As it is, it is only the lid and armour that appear different. IMO they are definately a blue/green as opposed to a green/blue.

What about the eyes? In about the right placement?

Pic's at a little tilt.

Ok, I was looking around and found something.
Take a look at this
http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/pmodels/mmfs.pdf
Pale Green
FS 34227
At the bottom
Maybe? Maybe not?

I think the eyes look pretty close for placement?
But the pale green is still very ESB ish... maybe mixing with additional duck egg blue to get that green/blue hue? only MO..

Well my eyes are all kinds of jacked up right now looking at colors.

So far I have this

Helmet/mandible
Depot Olive
B-110044
Or
Coach Green
B-110048•S-130048

For the dark green that shows scars
Pullman Green
B-110045•S-130045

And the back side where the Key holes are
Earth
B-110081•S-13008

This can be found at
http://www.testors.com/fileshare/color_charts/110000_Floquil%20RR%20(Enamel).pdf

The red parts
Wisconsin Cntrl Maroon (Same as the ROTJ gauntlets)

Now the big problem is the lighting in the pic’s. So I’m going off the pic’s that were taken outside. Like the one or two that were taken out side.

So if you guys or gals would like to take a look at the colors and tell me what you think.

I don't know of anywhere to get swatches. You just have to make some hard choices, and start buying a lot of paint! Even though it's not made anymore, Floquil German Field Gray was an approximate match to FS 34158. And take the Testor's PDF files with a grain of salt. Those are not always accurate to the real paint.

For military colors with a FS # go to http://www.colorserver.net/ It's a good way to compare tones and variations of color choices.

Originally Posted by BOBA PHAT

I don't know of anywhere to get swatches. You just have to make some hard choices, and start buying a lot of paint! Even though it's not made anymore, Floquil German Field Gray was an approximate match to FS 34158. And take the Testor's PDF files with a grain of salt. Those are not always accurate to the real paint.

For military colors with a FS # go to http://www.colorserver.net/ It's a good way to compare tones and variations of color choices.

Yeah I know those PDF files are not all that great, just take a look at some of them Fett colors. None of them are really a good match. Buying the paints are about the only way im going to find anything.

But ill be gone here shortly for four weeks so when I get back in Aug ill start on this again.

Its got to be a blue colour. All the other colours in the shots are exactly what we would expect, all except the armour and lid. Take a look at the kill stripes. Even with colour distortion at the most they appear orange instead of yellow. I personally don't believe these colours are that much out.

I believe all of the Chest armour is directely related to the ESB Fett. The one blue piece is oblong though.

Sorry to dredge up this thread from the depths of summer. . . :o
Has anyone done any further research into the PP1 colors? I've always loved this helmet and would love to hear opinions about the paint scheme.
I may try this one eventually and I'm just starting to gather information.
Thanks!

Hi,
I think the armour colour is different to the EsB.
We have the same problems with the Pictures from the PP1 and ESB, colours changes with every picture...
Here´re some PP1 Pics, every one has a different light spot but I think the armour colour turns into a blue/green...
Sven


BTW: you see the different Ammo Belt pouches?

Here´s a helmet copy painted by Marrow Sun. I think the colour looks like oxidated cooper.


Sven

Thanks, Sven. I just saw those pics of MS's helmet last night.
It is tricky to try and figure out the color for this helmet.

Here is a picture of the "Eyes" helmet in the sun / daylight:

Thanks, Tyler! Every clue helps.

I hit a local hobby shop today and bought 3 colors to test out for the PP1.
All of them are from Testors Model Master line. There are no hobby shops within a reasonable driving distance that carry Floquil/Polly Scale.
On the swatch from left to right, I tried; RAF Sky Type S, Hellblau RLM 65, and Fulcrum Gray Green. I took 3 pics under slightly different lighting conditions and put them together.
I'm testing these against a pic of the helmet taken in sunlight. My feeling is this would give the truest interpretation of the helmet's color. Although it may be a little washed out. . . so it's hard to say. This is a tricky beast indeed!





Thoughts? I think the RAF Sky may be sort of in the same "family." But I'm not sure. Too light? Too dark? Too green? Not bluish enough? But then under the brightest light, the RLM 65 looks good, too. Aaaaarrrgghhhh!!

No prob! The color of the PP1 has driven me nuts as well. IOnce you get over the color casts on the photos, many of the colors seem very similar to the ESB/PP3.

Not surprising, since I believe the PP1, ESB, and PP3 may have been painted by the same individual.

Of those paints, I think only the RLM 65 was available at the time. I'll double check for you.

I can't find either Fulcrum Gray Green or RAF Sky Type S in an old Floquil catalog I have. RLM 65 is in there, but I've found with other RLM colors that the Testors version is miles away from the Polly Scale version. It's hard to say which is closer to the old Floquil version, but I'd bet on Polly Scale.

I'm surprised that Floquil didn't make RAF Sky, because it's a WW II color. They might have, but my info only goes back to 1995.

Trying to find the right paint will take a lot of time, and too many bottles of paint. I spray out samples on primered PVC to get a better idea of how the color will look. Good luck, and hang in there because it is frustrating!

-Ryan

Thanks for the info, Ryan.
You know, the more I look at the RLM 65, the more I like it. Lee had mentioned checking out WWII German colors as well.
The only thing is that different companies have their own forumulas for mixing colors, even those that are supposed to match established 'mixes' or should conform to the FS color standards. So while the Testors Model Master RLM 65 might look OK, there's no telling if that's close to what Floquil makes/made.
Plus that's just one of many colors to be determined. It looks as though the mandible color is different, and the 2-tone damage on the back panels is different, too. There seems to be a slightly darker shade of the dome/cheek color used on the RF ear, and possibly the back panels.
Plus I don't think it's the best idea to trust any on-line color charts. Oh well, gotta keep trying.

Originally Posted by superjedi

Plus I don't think it's the best idea to trust any on-line color charts. Oh well, gotta keep trying.

Ditto!!.."REAL"color swatches in sunlight...is th best way.

Hi,
I found a quite similar colour to this helmet picture.
The Colour is called "RAL 6027" or Lichtgrün
Here´s a list of different manufacturers:

Hobby Color - Gunze Sangyo Nr. 67
Humbrol Nr. 65
Revell Nr. 55
Tamiya Nr. XF23
Testors / Model Master Nr. 1562





Sven

Hmm. . . that actually looks sort of close to the RLM 65 I tried. It's Model Master Acryl #4778. The FS number was 35352.
Now of course I can't find the website I was looking at the other day that showed different colors together.

eye color, eh?
my question is, what's with that 4th unidentified shin tool that is showing a red dot on top? never saw that picture (further up) before.

Originally Posted by volkerc

eye color, eh?
my question is, what's with that 4th unidentified shin tool that is showing a red dot on top? never saw that picture (further up) before.

Hi,
looks like a Graflex fire Button to me.
Sven

That's because Humbrol 65 is the same colour than the RLM 65

Originally Posted by KaanE

That's because Humbrol 65 is the same colour than the RLM 65

what about the Extracolor #146 ????

Ok then. What about the mandibles colour? Is it an orange or a red? and anyone got any ideas about the back?

Maybe a Caboose Red With weathering of course.

The mandibles (and under cheeks) look to be the same as the ESB helmet. The spectrum red look in the pics is just from photography. So for those I'd go with Floquil D & H Caboose and Brunswick Green.

The back is tricky. I still need to pick it up, but the right ear and under color on the back looks like Polly Scale Intermediate Blue. The over color on the back is probably an RLM. Either Polly Scale RLM 80 or RLM 82.

The keyslots could be silver or gray. Till a better pic comes out, we'll just have to guess and use what we like best. My best guess is a light, warm gray.

-Ryan

OOH nice...
Beat me too it hey Jon...

Really like the looks of this so far bruv and I really like the way you have had the eyes 'removed' then the bunny ears painted!
So is this lid one of yours?

Now I need to do a PP1 helmet It looks spot on! Nice work

Originally Posted by Mojo-Fett

OOH nice...
Beat me too it hey Jon...

Really like the looks of this so far bruv and I really like the way you have had the eyes 'removed' then the bunny ears painted!
So is this lid one of yours?

Yep one of mine. This is the version that i have always wanted. Not sure what to do about weathering of the dome (ie what colour)

Could it be that they used the same Reefer grey around the silver?

I think you could be right

Whoa Jon! That looks awesome!! How's you do the first pair of eyes?

Nice, Jon! Looking great so far.
Ditto what Andy said: How'd you do the "covered up" Eyes on the front of the dome??

I think the key slots might be a yellow color actually...

Originally Posted by superjedi

Nice, Jon! Looking great so far.
Ditto what Andy said: How'd you do the "covered up" Eyes on the front of the dome??

You can do it with black pastel

Originally Posted by Predatormv

I think the key slots might be a yellow color actually...

I was thinking that, too. My take on that photo is that it kinda looks like the Earth color used on the ESB helmet's right ear.

Its really looking great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS: Listen to Boba Phat!!
D

Has anyone gotten any further on the rear of the helmet yet?

I'm now thinking that the top color on the back could be CNW green. It's a glossy railroad color, but once you add a flat coat to it, it's a nice dark green. Plus it was used on the ESB body armor. All the dark military greens are too gray or too brown. Here's a mock up from scans of color chips.

Dome: Polly Scale RLM 78
Top Mandibles: Floquil Caboose
Under Mandible: Polly Scale PRR Maroon
Under Back: Polly Scale US Intermediate Blue
Top Back: Floquil CNW Green

The Keyslots are very hard to read. I'm still thinking a light gray.

-Ryan

Nice mock up, Ryan! You are the color chip King.

I thought this thread went cold many moons ago. Glad I was wrong.

Any up dates on yalls buckets?