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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Visor Curve #1

    Originally posted by Skaught77:

    I'm replacing the cheapo fake visor with a real visor, and I'm having trouble keeping the center tall piece from staying perfectly smooth when I curve it (heating it in an oven). Should the center part have a little curve in it too, or should it remain straight/flat. Looking up at the photo in the header, the reflection suggests that it should curve and follow the shape of the overall helmet.

    Thoughts?

    Scott

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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #2

    Originally posted by Braks Buddy:

    Visor should curve in the middle but it should be a slight, smooth, rolling curve.


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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #3

    Originally posted by WebChief:

    The visor definitely curves in the center. I too heated mine in the oven. Once it became soft, I took it out and actually placed it into the helmet and formed it to the curve of the helmet. It worked well.

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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #4

    Originally posted by Skaught77:

    That's what I did, too. Worked well. There is a little distortion in the center though. You can't see it just looking at the plastic, but a light reflection will be a bit wavy.

    Scott

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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #5

    Originally posted by WebChief:

    Yeah, it took me a couple of attempts but I'm happy with it's final outcome. It's not a huge curve, but it's decent. That was the cool thing about the acryllic. I just threw it back into the oven a couple of times until I was happy with the result.

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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #6

    Originally posted by Skaught77:

    I went to a plastics seller (in an industrial part of town) and they gave me - for free - a 1'x2' piece of tinted plastic about 1/8" thick. I cut my shape from it and heated it on some foil (on a baking sheet) in the over until it would droop.

    Scott

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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #7

    Originally posted by Hammerhead:

    What temperature did you set your oven to?

    I was trying to boil my 1/8" thick piece of smoked acrylic to get it pliable enough to be able to form it to the helmet shape, but it didn't work very well.


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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #8

    Originally posted by Skaught77:

    I forgot...400? Give it some time (but WATCH it!)

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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #9

    Originally posted by WebChief:

    I can't remember how hot I set it either. Best to start low and work your way up. Try around 350 or so and if that's not hot enough, push 400. Just WATCH it!

    I got mine as a flat sheet of acryllic from a plastics supplier outside of Boston. Just check in the phone book under plastics.

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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #10

    Originally posted by Braks Buddy:

    It has been said before but it was recently confirmed that the real visor was a welding visor... Those are already curved aomewhat. You might want to look into that...


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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #11

    Originally posted by Tyr Rykik:

    If the melting point is anything like sintra it is between 350 and 375, so I wouldn't try 400 right off the bat.


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    Nov 30, 2001, 9:23 AM - Merged: Re: Visor Curve #12

    Originally posted by Skaught77:

    I had ZERO problems heating mine in the over. Just give it another try. I put it on aluminum foil on a baking sheet.

    Scott

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    Jan 1, 2002, 10:08 PM - Merged: Merged: Visor tinting?? #13

    Originally posted by imprissonedfett:

    Hey guys I have the black limo tint and the faceshield but am wondering about applying the tint. Do I apply the tint to the outside or inside or does it make a difference? The sticky side happens to be the very dark side which would go in from the back. The other side is pretty dark but looks more mirror like. I was wondering if a few of you with Fett helmets could help with your 2 cents in this matter. Thanks for the help.

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    Jan 1, 2002, 10:08 PM - Merged: Merged: Re: Visor tinting?? #14

    Originally posted by boogeymanmasks:

    Well it depends on where your visor is going to be mounted. Some people cut out the entire black plastic area and mount the T visor from the inside of the mask. I personally cut out the black plastic just enough to allow the visor to have a ridge for the edges to rest on and mounted mine on the exterior of the helmet. If you need pics let me know and I will email you some. With all of that said, whichever side you are mounting yours, you do not want the window tint being the side your adhesive goes against keeping the visor in place. It could pull your tint away from the visor, where if you adhered it directly to the visor you would not have this problem. Again, if I am not being clear, let me know your email address and I will shoot you some pics. I would also get standard window tint, no mirroring.
    Hope this helps,
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    Jan 1, 2002, 10:08 PM - Merged: Merged: Re: Visor tinting?? #15

    Originally posted by WebChief:

    I cut out all the black plastic on mine and added the black tinting to the inside of the visor. If you put it on the outside, you could scratch it or worse even, tear it.

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    Mar 12, 2002, 1:27 PM - Merged: Re: Fibreglass Fett helmet #16

    Great job Nat, absolutly cool! What are you using for the visor? I have a Don Post 96 that I am about to cut up so I can replace the visor, any hints or tips?
    Thanks.
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    Mar 12, 2002, 1:27 PM - Merged: Re: Fibreglass Fett helmet #17

    Try Saftey Lab Inc. They make a really nice green tinted visor.
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    Mar 12, 2002, 1:27 PM - Merged: Re: Fibreglass Fett helmet #18

    drvfett wrote:Great job Nat, absolutly cool! What are you using for the visor? I have a Don Post 96 that I am about to cut up so I can replace the visor, any hints or tips?
    Thanks.
    I use a shade 4 welding visor. Thr first thing you should do is make a template of the opening & tape it to the visor.
    Then use a sharp hobbyknife & metal ruler & score the visor a few times. Then you just bend the visor & itll snap along the scored lines, giving you a nice neat finish.

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    Mar 12, 2002, 1:27 PM - Merged: Re: Fibreglass Fett helmet #19

    I cut mine with tin snips. Tin snips are designed to cut either one direction or the other, so it was really helpful in making the curves. We made a template out of thin cardboard, then traced it onto the welding mask, then cut it out. Since my visor is rear-mounted, the small "tooth" marks from the snips didn't matter. However, those marks across the bottom were easily filed out. If you are looking for a front-mounted visor though, I don't recommend this method.
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    Mar 18, 2002, 12:26 AM - Merged: best glue for visor #20

    Thats about it, just want to know what kind of glue works best for a rear mounted visor?
    Thanks
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    Mar 18, 2002, 12:26 AM - Merged: Re: best glue for visor #21

    I know a LOT of people use hot glue but I plan to screw mine in like the real thing. That way if I ever scratch or crack the visor I can easily replace it!
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    Mar 18, 2002, 12:26 AM - Merged: Re: best glue for visor #22

    Well, I haven't actually done this part...yet. But as far as adhesive goes, I've heard hot melt caulk, ABS Cement or 2-part epoxies all work well.

    Like Brak's said though, when the time comes, I plan on screwing my visor in...it's really the only way to go if you ever need to easily replace your visor.

    I have read that you can run the screw all the way through the front of the helmet, trim it off, sand it down and use bondo or something to cover the screw post and hole. But I don't think I'll go this route.

    What I might try is to affix a raised piece of plastic, fiberglass, etc. to the areas inside the helmet where I plan to attach the visor screws. This will create nice thick solid points to attach to.
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    Mar 18, 2002, 12:26 AM - Merged: Re: best glue for visor #23

    Jaster wrote:What type of bolt system is used?
    Jaster, I wish I could recommend something at this point. But like I said, I've not really done this part yet (heck, I'm still trying to work on a helmet I'm satisfied with).

    I suppose one could try wood screws or anything else with a pointy tip and a toothy thread. Another option might be to use screws with nuts. Get a screw that's really short, glue the nut to the inside of the helmet using the STRONGEST adhesive you can find and attach to that.
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    Mar 18, 2002, 12:26 AM - Merged: Re: best glue for visor #24

    I had a Don Post 97 helmet that I put a new visor in. I used Hot glue because I wanted to be able replace the visor if it got all scratched up.

    I was a little concerned that the glue would not bond well to the vinyl helmet. I just roughed up the inside surface of the helmet where the glue would go. It bonded very well. Actually I did end up taking out the visor and it didn't just pop off like I thought it would. I had to pull pretty hard to get the visor off.

    I know that hot glue can get soft when it gets hot, but if it gets that hot in your helmet you got worse problems than your visor coming loose.

    Anyway, just my .02 cents.

    Later,

    Chris
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    Mar 18, 2002, 12:26 AM - Merged: Re: best glue for visor #25

    If you have no plans on removing it, then why not.

    Again the caveat to using adhesives like hot glue, ect..., is that if you choose to remove the visor somtime down the road, you'll be in for a whale of a hassle.

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