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    Dec 9, 2005, 11:22 AM - ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #1

    OK, here is what I have put together through trial and error! For those who do not want to use an airbrush and/or mix paints, and would rather use "out-ot-the-spraycan" colors; Al la Rouge Studios, here is my "Official" list

    I went with a layered and topical approach, so after priming, the entire helmet was sprayed Silver first, and metallic silver spray will work, I used Krylon.

    Dome/Cheeks: Testors Model Master - SAC Bomber Green, FS34159

    Upper cheeks: Tamiya Olive Drab, TS-5 (misted with black for a dirtier, deeper color)

    Mandibles: Tamiya Dull Red, TS-33 (Floquil sprays also have "Boxcar red" S-130074 if you prefer that)

    Left ear: Tamiya Olive drab 2

    Right ear: Krylon gold (and silver in parts)

    Backof helmet: Floquil Railroad colors - Dark Green, 130040

    Kill stripes: Light color - Rustoleum painters touch Sun yellow, 1945; dark color - Krylon bright yellow/John Deere yellow 1804

    Of course this list does not figure in the "detail" colors, such as the grey, marroon and yellow "chipping" colors. For those a used testors flat enamels and hand mixed the shade I wanted. However this should be a good starting point for the base colors. I will add pics to this post to show my results very soon. Hope this helps some folks out!

    Shinobi
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    Dec 11, 2005, 5:36 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #2

    I'd love to see the pics,

    I want to see the difference between:
    - SAC Bomber Green, FS34159
    - Rust-oleum Sage Green 1933
    - Pazer Olive Green

    Hope you're doing another tutorial.....I'm about to paint my helmet and they are great to have as a reference.
    J-ROCK
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    Dec 11, 2005, 6:43 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #3

    J,

    Did you get your paint from me yet?

    Eric
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    Dec 11, 2005, 8:43 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #4

    i want to see your painted helmet b4 i go painting anything these colors
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    Dec 12, 2005, 12:02 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #5

    Ask and ye shall recieve!

    Here is my bucket. 95% done (after re-painting the back three times!)

    Most of it was done layered and topical, while the back was done all topical. There are still fine scratching and a black-wash to be done in various places, but I'm happy with the results. I don't know the rustoleum sage, but SAC bomber is pretty close to Panzer Olive as far a I can tell. Without further ado, here are the pics (Keep in mind this is under incandescant lighting, at different times of day)
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    Dec 12, 2005, 1:46 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #6

    Shinobi,

    Thanks for the pics, Looks really, really good! How does it feel to have it almost all done. I'm going to see what colors I can get tonight, I'm leaning towards using the Rust-oleum Sage Green 1933 since I just bought 2 cans from Kibosh and paid to have it shipped from the Detroit a couple weeks ago.
    J-ROCK
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    Dec 12, 2005, 1:52 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #7

    Pretty good J! Thanks! Funny, I've been "almsot done" for two months! I just wasn't happy with the back section until I just redid the color over the weekend. Still more work, but just in finishing details! Now I can get to work on my servo set-up! Yay!

    Shinobi
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    Dec 12, 2005, 2:05 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #8

    That looks great! This gives me hope. I don't know why, but I'm afraid of the whole airbrushing thing...
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    Dec 12, 2005, 2:31 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #9

    I hear you KB! I have used an airbruch before, and it's not much different from using cans in the technique (mostly) just that its nuch bigger a process to set up and clean, etc. I'm pretty happy with the results. Of course in person it looks so much better than these photos. I'm pretty confident in the color list as far as accuracy goes. The only possible difference would be using the boxcar red spray instead of the tamiya dull red. The tamiya is a bit warmer than the floquil, which leans more to the marroon value.

    Shinobi
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    Dec 12, 2005, 2:37 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #10

    I don't actually have the Box Car Red but I find it looks like your standard run of the mill "redoxide" primer color (pretty much brown)......I think it should be a little more Maroonish than brown? What do you guys think?

    J-ROCK
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    Dec 12, 2005, 2:42 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #11

    Great looking helmet Shinobi Fett!

    That is really cool that you were able to find good colors in the can!

    Man! I can't wait until my helmet kit gets here so I can get started!
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    Dec 12, 2005, 2:57 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #12

    Wow!!!! I must say that I'm very impressed!!!! The colors look really good!!
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    Dec 12, 2005, 3:08 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #13

    Thank you for the kind words! I aim to help!

    As I said, while not afraid to do it, I'd rather not fuss with the airbrush. Maybe if enough people agree that this is a definatetive readymade color list we can sticky it. I'd like Brak's and Rogue Studio's input, as well as anyone else that wishes to offer advise.

    I think the brown primer-ish color is too brown. You're shooting for more of a ruudy marroon. For ESB that is. Maybe somone can put together a ROTJ addendum to this. It's mostly the same though... just the weathering colors vary, some of these could go for the different colors. Like the killmarks would only be the orangey yellow, without the lighter sshade, etc.

    Shinobi
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    Dec 13, 2005, 10:05 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #14

    i think the green is great. im not to sure about the red though
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    Dec 14, 2005, 10:16 AM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #15

    Yeah, the red is a little orangey for my taste. As I said, Floquil spray cans make the "official" boxcar red, I just have not tried that. I'm going to try a black wash to tone it down a bit and see if that helps. If I'm still not satisfied, I might repaint that section. (Heck, I painted the back 3 times!) More to come soon!

    Shinobi
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    Dec 27, 2005, 11:02 AM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #16

    Bump!

    Finished the painting and black-washing/weathering. Next step is the servo in the ear. I will post some pics very soon of final paint results.

    Shinobi
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    Dec 27, 2005, 12:03 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #17

    Looking great man!
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    Dec 27, 2005, 4:13 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #18

    Although that red is a little bright, I think it looks better than the box car red, which is too dull and brownish. Maybe a mix of the two?
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    Jan 9, 2006, 11:58 AM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #19

    Hey thanks!

    Yes, the red is too bright as is, but I'm working on blackwahing it down a bit to dull it. When I have the pic of that ready I will post. besides that, I'm happy with the rest of the colors!

    Shinobi
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    Jan 9, 2006, 11:54 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #20

    Can't wait to see your new pics shinobi. From you first pics I know I'd be happy using this method on my 95 dp.
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    Jan 10, 2006, 4:18 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #21

    Thanks!

    My goal was to avoid using an airbrush and mixing paints as much as possible. However, the battle damage colors are all hand mixed flat enamels. Those can be any kind you want really, just various grays, silvers, marroons and the weird yellow/beige color.

    Shinobi
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    Jan 10, 2006, 5:20 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #22

    Are there any spray-can colors that can be used for the armor and gauntlet parts that are color accurate?
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    Jan 12, 2006, 2:30 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #23

    Hey Shinobi/Kibosh,
    I painted my bucket over the holidays. As I mentioned above, I used the Rust-oleum Sage Green 1933 (Spray in an areosol can) that I bought from Kibosh for the dome and cheeks. It looks great (IMO) it is a little on the light side maybe, but that can be darkened with black wash. Any way, I don't want to hijack your thread so I'll post pics in a new thread. I just wanted to let you know it is another alternative to the airbrush.
    J-ROCK
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    Jan 17, 2006, 12:20 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #24

    No no! Hijack away! the goal is to get a comprehensive list. For ESB, I'm going to use the SAC Bomber green for the gauntlets/JP/armor plates. So far as I can tell from the ref, and movie captures, these armor parts are the same color as the dome/cheeks. ROTJ is different, and a brighter green (as in the US medium green from the RS list) there are many opinions on this, but thats what I'm using, so the rustoleum sage should be good too. I'd like to see the match between Rustoleum sage and SAC bomber green... post pics!


    Shinobi
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    Jan 17, 2006, 12:49 PM - Re: ESB Helmet Color List - Readymade colors!! #25

    The dome color of the helmet and the body armor are different shades of green. The helmet is more of a washed out olive and the armor is more of a deep green. From my pics and research at least. I use to think it was incorrect to have them not match but after looking into it I believe they are different. If you put your Empire DVD into a computer with a good color correct monitor and watch the well lit scenes in cloud city I think you will agree.

    I am no expert by any stretch but I have learned alot form all of you guys and your hard work posting what you have learned so I feel I should do the same.

    Props to every one and there coutless time spent finding out these details and sharing!!!

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