ESB Bucket step by step

**DarthMiller** · 09-18-2005, 05:30 PM

UPDATED 9-20-05 with pics of supplies used.

I will be posting pics of my ESB bucket as I complete it over the next few weeks. I recently won a auction for a MARROW SUN bucket painted by MARROW SUN himself. It is such a awesome helmet I doubt I will wear it. I have decided to work on my own helmet and use the MS helmet as a reference.

for pics of my painted MS helmet check this thread

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/marrow-sun-painted-helmet-9113/

so here we go.

1. pics below show my helmet after dremel work has been completed

2. Bondo has been applied to rough areas and sanded

2. grey primer has been applied

3. finally I sanded it with 320 grit paper to make it extra smooth

**DarthMiller** · 09-18-2005, 06:02 PM

silver coat. Testers Chrome was used

**Jangobobbafett** · 09-18-2005, 06:13 PM

cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**DarthMiller** · 09-19-2005, 11:47 AM

I painted the bucket with Panzer Olive Green. I actually thought about using masking fluid for the battle damage but decided not to at the last minute.

**Elofsson** · 09-19-2005, 11:49 AM

Looks nice man.
Sell it to me?!

**deadland** · 09-19-2005, 06:33 PM

Looking good I can't wait to get one, but why did you decide not to use the masking fluid.

**DarthMiller** · 09-19-2005, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by deadland

Looking good I can't wait to get one, but why did you decide not to use the masking fluid.

since this is my first helmet I wanted to play it safe and just paint everything. I was worried the masking fluid would cause me problems.

**DarthMiller** · 09-20-2005, 06:31 AM

I got all of the base coats of paint done.

colors used:

1. Panzer Olive green for the dome and cheeks
2. Boxcar red for mandibles
3. Euro Dark Green for back of helmet
4. PRR Brunswick green for inside of cheeks
5. panzer dark yellow for rangfinder ear

I used an airbrush for the dome and cheeks and mandibles.

I did experience paint that peeled when I removed the tape so I had to paint part of it by hand.

It seems the paint peels pretty easy because of the Testors Chrome I used as a base

**batninja** · 09-20-2005, 08:45 AM

And you said you had no skills!

What helmet version is that?

You may be already aware of this, but you'll have to paint the edge of the visor area again once you cut it out. I know alot of people leave that area uncut for stability concerns while painting. I made the cut before doing ANY painting, and braced it from the inside with a small piece of spare plastic and some JB Weld. Just a thought, to each his own, etc...

It looks like you nailed the colors, too. Way to go! Keep us updated.

**slave1pilot** · 09-20-2005, 10:15 AM

& which colors did you use?
Are those "rogue's"?

**RBF** · 09-20-2005, 12:23 PM

wha nice colours dude!

**DarthMiller** · 09-20-2005, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by batninja

And you said you had no skills!

What helmet version is that?

You may be already aware of this, but you'll have to paint the edge of the visor area again once you cut it out. I know alot of people leave that area uncut for stability concerns while painting. I made the cut before doing ANY painting, and braced it from the inside with a small piece of spare plastic and some JB Weld. Just a thought, to each his own, etc...

It looks like you nailed the colors, too. Way to go! Keep us updated.

Eric...you were right....I had no idea how much fun it would be to make my own helmet.

not sure which helmet it is. I got it from Kevin H.

**DarthMiller** · 09-20-2005, 05:47 PM

OK you guys are going to love this. Battle damage time. I found a weird way to create some of the damage. I actually tried using a knife to scrape some of the paint off to reveal the silver chrome. Not only did it work great but it gave it a real authentic look to the damage.

**CombatBaby** · 09-20-2005, 10:45 PM

you are quite correct, that looks very realistic with the way you are revealing the orignal testors chrome instead of puttign extra paint layers on again

looking good so far, keep up the good work

-=QuinN!

**RBF** · 09-21-2005, 07:12 AM

looks cool!
but won't you scrape off the chrome at certain spots aswell?

**DarthMiller** · 09-21-2005, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by R_boba_fett

looks cool!
but won't you scrape off the chrome at certain spots aswell?

yes but I have silver paint to touch it up with

**BobaN00b** · 09-21-2005, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

I actually tried using a knife to scrape some of the paint off to reveal the silver chrome. Not only did it work great but it gave it a real authentic look to the damage.

Yeah, I did this to mine. I have always thought that the helmet woul dbe FAR from smooth. All the damage to mine is just that, true damage, so, kudos to you for doing that. Nothing beats true, REAL damage.

**DarthMiller** · 09-21-2005, 09:12 PM

more battle damage.

also note that I did cut out the visor before I painted it.

**Fettster** · 09-22-2005, 03:35 AM

looks really good.

keep it up

**Vida** · 09-22-2005, 10:53 AM

Wow man, I have no idea why you bought a painted helmet

. That looks awesome!! Keep up the good work!!

-Tony Vida; TK 3204; Austin, Tx

**Jun Garros Fett** · 09-22-2005, 11:02 AM

Looking real good

Take it slow and easy and you are going to have a bucket comparable to the one you purchased.

**RBF** · 09-22-2005, 11:09 AM

keep going!

**psberetta** · 09-22-2005, 02:13 PM

Nice job, keep posting.........

**DarthMiller** · 09-22-2005, 03:39 PM

more battle damage pics

I used SP Lark Dark Gray on the mandibles around scratches and PRR Maroon.

**DarthMiller** · 09-23-2005, 07:14 AM

got the ear pieces done and attached with JB weld

**Dentedarmor** · 09-23-2005, 08:14 AM

mmmm bucket tutorial

**psberetta** · 09-23-2005, 04:10 PM

I love all the little scratches. Very nice !!!!
Are you doing that with a x-acto knife?

**DarthMiller** · 09-23-2005, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by psberetta

I love all the little scratches. Very nice !!!!
Are you doing that with a x-acto knife?

yes..it takes some time but looks great!!

**DarthMiller** · 09-23-2005, 04:43 PM

OK. I think I am almost done with the front mandibles. I did a tone of work to the right mandible. The detail on the right side is very hard to get right. I know I am not screen accurate but for my first attempt at this I am happy. I know this is very pic intensive but for those wanting to do this also I thought showing the entire process would be great. I have almost 12 hours into this project now and it seems that it is not even close to being done. I am scared of the back of the helmet. If anyone has any tips let me know.

**MARROW SUN** · 09-23-2005, 05:04 PM

The back is the hardest part of the helmet IMO and where I always start first because of the work involved. If your going to get burned out, its best to get the toughest part out of the way first.

**DarthMiller** · 09-23-2005, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by MARROW SUN

The back is the hardest part of the helmet IMO and where I always start first because of the work involved. If your going to get burned out, its best to get the toughest part out of the way first.

i think I am going to take a few days off. my eyes are starting to get crossed!!

**Dentedarmor** · 09-24-2005, 12:57 AM

I want one!

Great job man! You really do have a great eye for detail and a very steady hand!

Well done! Can't wait to see it finished!

**Fettster** · 09-24-2005, 05:25 AM

dont be scared of the back.

Just break it down and you'll do a great job im sure, you have shown us you have the skill.

There is a great tutorial on www.starwarshelmets.com

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

OK. I think I am almost done with the front mandibles. I did a tone of work to the right mandible. The detail on the right side is very hard to get right. I know I am not screen accurate but for my first attempt at this I am happy. I know this is very pic intensive but for those wanting to do this also I thought showing the entire process would be great. I have almost 12 hours into this project now and it seems that it is not even close to being done. I am scared of the back of the helmet. If anyone has any tips let me know.

**Tension113** · 09-24-2005, 05:30 AM

I thought the same thing when I first saw this post.. "Isn't this the guy who claimed he didn't have any skills?"

so much for that.. people are gonna be offering you $ now to paint their helmets

Lookin great so far

Ten

**welsh_bounty_hunter** · 09-24-2005, 05:50 AM

I totally agree with then above posts, you're painting skills are more than adequate for the task!!

The weathering patterns look spot on and the colours seem very accurate too.

Great job . . . keep us updated on your progress.

**DarthMiller** · 09-24-2005, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Tension113

I thought the same thing when I first saw this post.. "Isn't this the guy who claimed he didn't have any skills?"

so much for that.. people are gonna be offering you $ now to paint their helmets

Lookin great so far

Ten

thanks guys...I really thought I would not be able to do this. I have suprised myself. About a year ago I tried to paint a VADER classic action helmet and ruined it to the piont that I trashed it. for this project I have done months of research and I must admit the biggest help was getting my MARROW SUN helmet painted by Jordy. Having that as a reference has made all the difference in the world. whats nice is that when this is completed I will wear this one and keep my MS helmet for display only!!

**DarthMiller** · 09-24-2005, 09:11 AM

OK. I was bored this morning so I worked on the kill marks. I thought about using TK 409's templates but I decided to hand paint my kill marks.

I first used a pencil to draw them on and then used UP ARMOR YELLOW to paint the outline.

here are a few pics. I will finish them up later tonight.

**DarthMiller** · 09-24-2005, 03:13 PM

I finished the kill marks. They turned out better than I expected. I must say that painting them by hand is very difficult and if I ever do one of these bad boys again I will use an airbrush. Notice the nice fade from yellow to orange. I also started to work on the back of the helmet. I am planning on painting this by hand also. I will be using a pencil to outline all of the damage and then paint it.

**Master-Jedi-Allma** · 09-24-2005, 03:25 PM

Great work on the bucket buddy!

Keep it coming...

Mason.

**DarthMiller** · 09-24-2005, 09:35 PM

OK..more work to the back of the helmet. I was not sure what color to use so I tried a mix of Sand and up armor yellow. Very little yellow was mixed in.
I started to use a pencil to outline the battle damage but it was very hard to see. I decided to use a black marker with a fine tip to out line the battle damage.

**Fettster** · 09-25-2005, 05:48 AM

looking good, keep it up

**RBF** · 09-25-2005, 05:51 AM

never thought of drawing the scratches on first actually...

nice work on the killmarks!!

this is gettin better and better !

**DarthMiller** · 09-25-2005, 10:37 AM

I worked on detail stuff today. just battle damage. For the dark scratches above the kill marks I used the dark brunswick green.

**DarthMiller** · 09-25-2005, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by slave1pilot

& which colors did you use?
Are those "rogue's"?

yes Rogue's colors were used

**DarthMiller** · 09-25-2005, 11:16 AM

Question for the FETT experts...is the visor in ESB dark green??

**Predatormv** · 09-25-2005, 01:14 PM

Yes it is dark green.

**FOIOOO** · 09-25-2005, 02:48 PM

very very nice

**DarthMiller** · 09-26-2005, 05:14 PM

OK..check this out...my helmet I painted ( not finished with the back)

side by side with my MARROW SUN helmet painted by MS himself. Now I know mine is not a good as his but for my first attempt I am very happy. I should have everything completed by next week.

My Ms helmet will never be worn...it will just be for display and I will use my helmet for 501st events!!

**BobaFettSlave_1** · 09-26-2005, 05:43 PM

i thought the back of the ESB helmet was a dark blue green color.

**DarthMiller** · 09-26-2005, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by BobaFettSlave_1

i thought the back of the ESB helmet was a dark blue green color.

I used the Rogue studios color list:

it shows the back as being EURO Dark green.

Helmet (Empire version)
* Panzer Olive Green (Cheeks and dome)
* Boxcar Red (mandibles)
* UP Armor Yellow (Verticle stripes)
* MILW Road Orange (Verticle stripes)
* SP Lark Dark Gray 'unsure' (Gray around scratches)
* Rust (various locations)
* Chrome (scratches) I think this was actually a color called bright silver but this works best.
* Euro Dark green/I think I found this one stay tuned 8/15/05 'Unsure' back of helmet.
* Earth(Rangefinder ear)
* RLM Green (Left ear) 'unsure'
* PRR Green(I like weathered black better) (Inside cheeks) this is practically black.
* Rock Island Maroon (Red scratches on left ear).
* Light Gray (on left ear) any light gray will do.
* PRR Maroon for the dark color on mands may need to darken this color with a touch of black I am unsure of the correct color for this at this time but this works

**Jun Garros Fett** · 09-26-2005, 09:25 PM

Holy (edited) !!
Outstanding job so far Darth.

MS has gotta see that. WOW!

**Redgek** · 09-27-2005, 04:57 PM

That is awesome. I'll be starting my helmet in the next few months and the tips and pics from the members here are invaluable!

**AT-AT Luvah** · 09-27-2005, 08:36 PM

Fantastic stuff.

Makes me want to get a bucket and give it a go.

Sweet job.

**DarthMiller** · 09-29-2005, 09:41 PM

I will be posting pics of my new Visor(GREEN). I will be installing it this weekend. I also have been working on the back. I hope to get some pics up of my progress over the weekend.

I have slowed down a bit to avoid bucket burn out. Stayed tuned for more updates

**DarthMiller** · 10-01-2005, 07:32 AM

UPDATE:

I installed a green visor. Thanks to TK409's website. He had some great info on getting a dark green visor. I used JB weld to hold the visor in place. I also completed the rangefinder and earpiece. I still have a little paint work to do on the range finder.

I am still working on the back and hope to finish it up by the end of next week.

**MARROW SUN** · 10-01-2005, 02:01 PM

looking great! You never know what you can do untill you try. Your helmet from what I can see so far is definetly in the top 10% but that's only my opinion.

**DarthMiller** · 10-01-2005, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by MARROW SUN

looking great! You never know what you can do untill you try. Your helmet from what I can see so far is definetly in the top 10% but that's only my opinion.

that means alot coming from you!!!

I must say that when I put mine next to the one you painted for me yours clearly is in the TOP 1%

I can't tell you how much it helps to have yours as a reference during this project!!

**DarthMiller** · 10-02-2005, 03:35 PM

progress pics on the back of the bucket. Everything is hand painted. This is proving to be the hardest part of the paintjob!!

**DarthMiller** · 10-02-2005, 08:16 PM

more pics of the detail work on the back. I used a very fine tip brush to do all of the detail work. Once again I recommend suding a pencil to draw everything first and then paint.

**Gator Fett** · 10-03-2005, 05:01 AM

WOW ... Nice work DarthMiller.

All of these bucket painting threads, have come up at the right time. I now have all kinds of tips to use while painting my helmet.

Thanks,
Gator

**RBF** · 10-04-2005, 09:20 AM

awesome job there!!

**DarthMiller** · 10-08-2005, 03:09 PM

I am finally finished!! This was a fun project and I proved to myself that I do have some skills!!! I think I may do another one in the future and see if I can improve in some areas. Overall I am very happy and would like to thank everyone on TDH. These boards are a big help and many of you also personally helped me with this project.

Special thanks to Wes and Eric of the STAR GARRISON for getting me to truly understand the joy of "doing it myself"

also Marrow Sun....your skills are in the top 1% and your helmet is what inspired me to do this project.

Man of War..you did the rest of my Fett and you are the "Picasso" on these boards

thanks to all for following my thread and for all you first timers like me I hope this thread may help you a little on your next project!!

**DarthMiller** · 10-08-2005, 03:14 PM

one last pic of my helmet on my lifesize fett!!!

**MARROW SUN** · 10-08-2005, 03:57 PM

Great Job you must be very happy. I guess you might as well give me my old ****** bucket back

**BANDITZ** · 10-08-2005, 04:05 PM

well there's sum awsum lids on the TDH.....but i gotta say this bucket go's to the top of my cool book.....paint is amazing..............

**DarthMiller** · 10-08-2005, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by MARROW SUN

Great Job you must be very happy. I guess you might as well give me my old ****** bucket back

LOL....your bucket is the centerpiece of my collection and your bucket is resting on my Fett mannequin right now..my bucket only made it on my mannequin for one picture!!

MS...you are a MASTER JEDI

I am just a padawan learner!! LOL

**FettOfficer** · 10-13-2005, 10:40 AM

That's an awesome job you did Darth.....Sweet.. looking dude! 8)
I wish I had the patience & time of finishing one myself.

**Kissker** · 10-28-2005, 02:25 PM

hmmm now.... leseee... yes.. thats a great bucket. lol... makes me look at mine and go... "you need fixing" LOL

**frosty** · 11-10-2005, 05:12 AM

Very nicely done,
I am a newbie here and just got my first helmet, its a cast of a d.p. deluxe i got off one of the other boards, needs a lot of work before i get started but your pics etc will give me a good start

**Fettist** · 11-10-2005, 10:46 AM

Yeah thanks for all the hard work...I will use this as a major reference!!!

**fredanger** · 11-10-2005, 10:55 AM

How did you track down a MS helmet?? Did you contact Marrow Sun directly??? Is it possible to get one directly from Marrow Sun??

**Fettster** · 11-10-2005, 11:18 AM

he is a member here, try sending him a pm

**DarthMiller** · 11-11-2005, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by fredanger

How did you track down a MS helmet?? Did you contact Marrow Sun directly??? Is it possible to get one directly from Marrow Sun??

he put a helmet up on EBAY. I won the auction. He is a great guy..PM him for a helmet.

**Excalibur** · 11-11-2005, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

he put a helmet up on EBAY. I won the auction. He is a great guy..PM him for a helmet.

Do you dare show him the Auction thread or the $$ paid8)

**DarthMiller** · 11-12-2005, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Excalibur

Do you dare show him the Auction thread or the $$ paid8)

NO..I try to forget about what I paid for it!!!! it still hurts to think about it

but I must admit it is worth EVERY PENNY

**goldenrod** · 11-12-2005, 09:37 PM

You did an outstanding job on your bucket!
-Goldenrod

**Boba Al** · 12-18-2005, 01:13 AM

Thats the Ducks nuts!!!! Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!
now can you paint mine heehehe

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