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  1. aero's Avatar
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    Jun 4, 2008, 7:07 AM - colour problem (esb) #1

    Hi,
    my first post and maybe asking alot.

    I'm an airbrush artist in London and would like to start painting my helmet(ESB).
    But I'm having trouble finding someone that stocks Floquil here in the U.K and if they do stock it, don't stock certain colours. eg(German Field Gray or Panzer Olive Green).
    i know that the German Field Gray is no longer made.
    would anyone know the pantone numbers for them.
    these would be use as a colour reference for me to be able to mix the colours myself.
    Also if possibly the rest of the colours on the helmet.
    I'd like to use liqutex to paint it.

    if anyone can help me out i would be eternally grateful.

    Thanks
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    Jun 4, 2008, 7:50 AM - Re: colour problem (esb) #2

    Hey Aero... welcome to another UK Fett bruv!
    Have you thought about using Humbrol colours?
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    Jun 4, 2008, 8:17 AM - Re: colour problem (esb) #3

    As Mojo Fett said, have you thought of using Humbrol? Here is a list supplied by Garrett (aka Terminal Fettler)

    ESB HUMBROL COLOUR LIST

    -Base grey all over helmet: 79
    -Upper cheeks: Black 33
    -Dome and cheeks: Green 78
    -Red on mandibles and trim: 73
    -Purple on mand. and trim: 73+104
    -Back of helmet: Cream/Green: 28+103 / 76+96
    -L/H ear: Red/ Grey/ Green: 60/ 28/ 78+159
    -Kill stripes: Yellow 154, fade to Orange 82 on
    back.(very slight fade)
    -Black marks by kill stripes:62+33 mixed whilst
    painting on with 00 brush.
    -R/H ear: Sand 94
    -Light blue/Grey all over helmet: 23
    -Weathering: Splatters/misting, very thin mix applied
    with airbrush with low pressure and flicked from
    cotton bud: Black 33/Grey 79/Beige 103/ Brown 72.
    -Glue blobs(applied in layers) and general
    discolouration all over helmet using brush and cotton
    bud depending on required effect: Windsor and Newton
    ink: Sunshine Yellow.
    -Scuffs: Black 33/ white 34: use 00 dry brush on.
    -Putty crack repair: 28 + 94 mixed while painting on
    -L/H cheek grey area near L/H ear slightly green:
    79+(76+96: back of helmet colour)
    -sand coloured grime on top of brow and in arrows:
    94 thinned with spirit applied with small crappy
    brush, dabbed with rag
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    Jun 4, 2008, 9:40 AM - Re: colour problem (esb) #4

    Thanks for the advice guy's.
    yes i have but how close are they to the floquil colours?
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    Jun 4, 2008, 10:28 AM - Re: colour problem (esb) #5

    I don't have Floquil German Field Gray, but according to an old catalog it was an approximate match to FS 34158. If you can find Tamaya paints, they sell a GFG, but I don't know how close their version is to Floquil's. According to Wikipedia, the RGB code for GFG is 77R 93G 83B. You could use that code to try and get a color you like from a paint shop. Good Luck! Trying to match paints that don't exist anymore is tough.
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    Jun 4, 2008, 11:14 AM - Re: colour problem (esb) #6

    great thanks Boba Phat.
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    Jun 5, 2008, 7:33 AM - Re: colour problem (esb) #7

    could you not use Polly Scale? I got some from here, they dont do all the Fett colours (not last I checked) but do have the Greens.

    http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/ind...5B%5D=code+asc
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    Jun 5, 2008, 11:36 AM - Re: colour problem (esb) #8

    thanks Blipper.

    how close is the green to floquil?
    think i read somewhere that poly scale is a bit darker.
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    Jun 6, 2008, 4:00 AM - Re: colour problem (esb) #9

    I'm sure I read on this board (think it was Rogue Studios research) that they were essentially identical, just different mediums (Polly Scale being acrylic and Floquil being enamel). I used the Poly Scale myself, but just added a touch of white to get the onscreen look, offscreen without the studio lights i think the real colour is a lot darker.Saying that after I lightly sanded my green I was sure it took on a very very slightly yellow hue which kind of bugged me - wasnt sure whether i was so wrapped up in exactness that i was imagining it or not.

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