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    Boba Fett Pre-Pro #2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Finally started to do the PP2 helmet paint stencils. This is a tricky one, mainly because the lack of more reference images and the existing ones are not the best. But I do my best to get the best results. The colors used are based on the existing images and may not be what others used on their helmets.

    So here are the stencils. The color separation will come after I finish all the stencils (or by request).

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    Update 11-05-2011
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    The color separation files were added. The colors used are based on SpideyFett's ROTJ and PP2 color scheme but not 100% accurate. The Sandy Rose color for the mandibles is a found color (at this site Colour Lovers - Sandy Rose) as I was seraching for it's HTML code which is #AA7D7A (I don't know how accurate is this, but is better than nothing).

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    Update 12-05-2011
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    Added the Dome Top Area to guide you (with some approximation) on how to adjust the top scratches.

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    Update 16-03-2012
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    All files were replaced with new and improved ones.
    70% of the dome's scratches were redone from scratch and the remaining scratches were modified and improved. The red face area was modified also, especially the front part and the ears area, but other areas were also corrected. Both cheeks and the right back plate was redone from scratch.
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    Update 25-03-2012
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    Added archived separation files in JPG format for those who want to edit or alter the stencil's dimensions.
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    Red Face and Rear Keyhole
    red-face-keyhole.jpg

    Color Separation
    Red Face & Keyhole A4.pdf
    Red Face & Keyhole LTR.pdf

    PP2 Red Face & Keyhole.zip

    Back Plates
    back-plates.jpg

    Color Separation
    Back Plates A4.pdf
    Back Plates LTR.pdf

    PP2 Back Plates.zip

    Cheeks
    cheeks.jpg

    Color Separation
    Cheeks A4.pdf
    Cheeks LTR.pdf

    PP2 Cheeks.zip

    Dome
    dome.jpg

    Color Separation
    Dome A4.pdf
    Dome LTR.pdf

    PP2 Dome.zip

    Note that the crayon mark on the dome, across the right arrow is an optional feature. Some of the images show the helmet with this mark while other images doesn't have the crayon at all.

    Dome Top Area
    dome-top.jpg

    And here is (as superjedi has named this) the 'Bantha herd trampled helmet' to serve you as a template to fit all the scratches.

    Helmet Perspective View (NEW)
    helmet-assembly.jpg

    Helmet Perspective View (OLD)
    helmet-assembly.jpg

    Note that the old file is left just for improvement comparison.

    Have fun with these files!
    Last edited by RafalFett; 03-25-2012 at 02:08 AM. Reason: All files were replaced with new and updated files.

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    Re: Boba Fett PP2 Helmet Stencils

    It was about time Nice to know they are finally here!

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    Re: Boba Fett PP2 Helmet Stencils

    Insane. . .

    Look forward to seeing more.

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    Re: Boba Fett PP2 Helmet Stencils

    My hero!

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    Yeah boy!

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    Re: Boba Fett PP2 Helmet Stencils

    Thanks a lot boys for the encouragement! I'm working on the red face (as I like to say to the mandible-visor-ear-rim area) and it looks awsome so far.

    Here's a teaser of it:

    red-face.jpg

    Respect!

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    Re: Boba Fett PP2 Helmet Stencils

    Updated the first post with the red face stencil. Not a perfect one, mostly because of the poor images with the back and side views of the helmet.

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    Re: Boba Fett PP2 Helmet Stencils

    slow down mate, youl have them all done in a month at this rate,,

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    Re: Boba Fett PP2 Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by jinto View Post
    slow down mate, youl have them all done in a month at this rate,,
    This is a good one.

    If I slow down I will lose my grip. And we dont' want this to happen...

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    Re: Boba Fett PP2 Helmet Stencils

    I know but if you die from exuastion they wil never be finished

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinto View Post
    I know but if you die from exuastion they wil never be finished
    If I die from exhaustion, I will come back from the dead to finish the stencils. But that's not the case... Because of real life I have the impression that I'm moving too slow with the stencils. I want to see them finished, but must wait with patience.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    First post updated with the Back Plate stencils.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Just added the Rear Keyhole stencils. Still to do the Dome and the Ear stencils. Much to go...

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Finally I managed to do the Dome stencils. This was by far the hardest and most complex of all (PP1 and ESB). I need to rest my eyes for a couple of days until I do the color separation. I hope you like the stencils.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by RafalFett View Post
    This was by far the hardest and most complex of all (PP1 and ESB).
    I told you! But they look awesome, I give you my permission to have a rest Just a tip, the white at the dent are scratches, the white drops at the left of your stencil, is unweathered silved (masked until the helmet is finished), and you see it white because of the flash washing it, keep that in mind

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Nope, I was wrong, they are white drops of paint

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Thanks a lot, KaanE! I know this isn't a perfect one, but because of the poor quality of the images is hard to tell sometimes which are the right scratch colors... In one image a particular scratch is light gray while in other image is dark gray. But everyone will use the color combination they think is the right one.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    As you can see, the grey was applied just on a few spots and a really light coat, so... if the light is straight on the grey it looks lighter, and if not, it looks darker Also a light grey weathering was applied all over the helmet.

    sandy-helmets-01.jpg

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    I might be wrong on this, but I noticed that the dent on PP2 is smaller than on the other helmets. It can be clearly seen the contour of the original dent.

    dent.jpg

    Please correct me if I'm wrong...

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Awesome job, Rafal...
    Look forward to the seps!

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    You're wrong and not. The PP#2 dent is smaller than the PP#3, or ESB, because you know all of the dents were scratchbuilt and attached to supertrooper helmets. So yes, it's smaller (and also sharper), but it's not what you think it is, the yellow line is just a shadow, not the "original" dent.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    If you look on the uncleaned GMH you will see the same mark of a partially filled dent. My guess is that they initially wanted a bigger dent and used a template to cut out the hole then they did a smaller scratch made dent and filled the remaining part.

    I made a more profound compare of the ESB and PP2 dent and it's form and size match.

    gmh.jpg dent-compare.jpg

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by Dahone View Post
    Awesome job, Rafal...
    Look forward to the seps!
    Thanks a lot, Dahone. These will follow shortly...

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    That's not a filled dent but scratches Sandy add to the dent. Well, of course all the dents were filled, but that's not what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaanE View Post
    That's not a filled dent but scratches Sandy add to the dent. Well, of course all the dents were filled, but that's not what you think.
    You might be right. What I said before was just my theory... Nothing much.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    First post updated with the color separation files, except the one for the dome. This will follow tomorow... Also updated the text in the first post with the used colors.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Just in case you wanted to take a stab at the chest armor as well........I wouldn't be mad at'cha.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by Dahone View Post
    Just in case you wanted to take a stab at the chest armor as well........I wouldn't be mad at'cha.
    This has already been made by Rich D. and posted here Chest and Shoulder Art by evan4218.
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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    With the dent I totally see were you are getting the idea for that but you need to cconsider it like this,
    All six helmets were originally dentless they decided to add a dent ,
    a dent was made they then made a mold and castings of the dent, and made 5 dents that were to end up in the helmets,
    to add the dents they needed to cut out the dent sized hole , it looks as though on the PP2 they went a little to far with the cutting ,
    they made the dent with a lip around the out side to blend it in to the rest the PP2 has the most obvious proof tyhe dent was added but if you look closely on the PP3 you can also see were they did this how ever there isnt as much of an extra lip around the dent ,
    Any way my point is the dent are all the exact same size and shape they look difrent (specially the ESB) becouse of the added white/light gray highlights on the dent but there all from the same mold

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    You are right jinto. Now I think too that all the dents are the same size (maybe not in the same spot, but close enough).

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    exactly seeing there all placed by hand the positioning is a bit of between them all the PP2 being the most previlant ,
    and becouse up until the MR linage, most helmets had the dent placment of the PP2 there for we are most use to its positioning.

    And these have turned out great , so have all your other stencils , great work

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Added to the first post the Dome color separation files. Merged the Red Face and Rear Keyhole files. Added the Dome Top Area scratches as a guide to all of the top scratches. I think I put the top scratches a little bit to the front. Maybe I will change that...

    Quote Originally Posted by jinto View Post
    And these have turned out great , so have all your other stencils , great work
    Thanks, jinto! I'm glad you like all of them.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Replaced the Dome Top Area image with a corrected one. Remember that this image is a flat view of the dome's top area and must use to fit mostly the top center and the surrounding scratches.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Love that dome top shot! Very nice work. I'll be studying these color maps closely alongside the reference pictures.
    Thanks for putting all the work into these templates.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by RafalFett View Post
    This has already been made by Rich D. and posted here Chest and Shoulder Art by evan4218.
    Rafal,
    I was referring to the paint and scratches, not the emblems. C'mon....I know you wanna do it!
    Last edited by Dahone; 05-12-2011 at 12:53 PM.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by superjedi View Post
    Love that dome top shot! Very nice work. I'll be studying these color maps closely alongside the reference pictures.
    Thanks for putting all the work into these templates.
    Thanks for the kind words, superjedi! Yeah, I love too the dome top view. Looks like a map of an alien planet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dahone View Post
    Rafal,
    I was referring to the paint and scratches, not the emblems. C'mon....I know you wanna do it!
    There is one amazing stencil made by evan4218 here Chest Armor Stencils and I think is the ROTJ armor from the MoM exibits. Or you are talking about the PP2 armor stencils? Not sure if I will do it... But never say never!

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Like the birds eye ,thats a really good idea ,
    very cool

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Added to the first post the perspective image of the helmet. Should help to fit all the nasty scratches...

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    I love the perspective shot, looks awesome!

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by KaanE View Post
    I love the perspective shot, looks awesome!
    I love that too. I even put there the dental files #15 in the rear keyhole.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    BTW, who makes the Sandy Rose? I can't find it on testors.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    I don't know who makes this color, but I found it on a site of some color lovers (see at the first post).

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Found something at this site Valspar Paint - Sandy Rose but I don't know if this helps.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Rafal,
    I'm speaking strictly Pre-Production 2 armor. I was planning on eyeballing it. But with your nifty skills, I'd trust your method that much more.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahone View Post
    Rafal,
    I'm speaking strictly Pre-Production 2 armor. I was planning on eyeballing it. But with your nifty skills, I'd trust your method that much more.
    Thanks!
    Thanks for the kind words, but I first must do the ROTJ helmet stencils and maybe then I will do the PP2 armor stencils (althought this wasn't in my plans).

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Added to the end of the first post the link to the Pre-Pro 2 armor stencils.

    Edit: link removed.
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    Yippee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahone View Post
    Yippee!
    Finally!

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Made some corrections thanks to superjedi who pointed out some mistakes in the stencils. The Red Face and Rear Keyhole image and PDF files are corrected and replaced. I also replaced the Perspective View.

    corrections.jpg

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Well, as we were discussing, not "mistakes" but looking at photos from different time periods.
    This helmet, like the ESB for example, apparently had more damage occur over the years.
    Both templates would be good for people to choose whether they want to paint the helmet as it was first painted, or as it looks today.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    I'm sure there are some extra scratches here and there, but as superjedi said, you decide which ones to use and not to use on your helmet.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    BTW, I was wrong, the "scratches" around the dent is actually the filled dent as you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaanE View Post
    BTW, I was wrong, the "scratches" around the dent is actually the filled dent as you said.
    Yes, it looks like that, especially on the PP2 helmet.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Major update in the first post!

    All image files were replaced with new and improved ones. The color separation PDFs will follow shortly.
    At least 70% of the dome's scratches were redone from scratch and the remaining scratches were modified and improved. The red face area was modified also, especially the front and the ears area, but other areas were also corrected. Both cheeks and the right back plate was redone from scratch.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    The first post was updated with the color separation files.

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    Hooray for yellow crayon!

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    Thanks for yours really work!

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by superjedi View Post
    Hooray for yellow crayon!
    What whould be the Pre-Pro #2 without the yellow crayon and the ESB Hero without the blue pen marks? Thanks for your confidence on this, especially because you inspired me to redo the stencils.

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    Thanks for yours really work!
    I thank you for the nice comments!

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro #2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    The first post was updated with archived separation files in JPG format for those who want to edit or alter the stencil's dimensions.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by RafalFett View Post
    What whould be the Pre-Pro #2 without the yellow crayon and the ESB Hero without the blue pen marks?
    Well, actually the ESB blue pen marks were added post production while the PP#2 yellow crayon mark was on it ALWAYS

    Thank you for the stencils Rafal.

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    Re: Boba Fett Pre-Pro 2 (PP2) Helmet Stencils

    Quote Originally Posted by KaanE View Post
    Well, actually the ESB blue pen marks were added post production while the PP#2 yellow crayon mark was on it ALWAYS

    Thank you for the stencils Rafal.
    I'm glad you like it!

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