bmx potty + filler = helmet?

seeing as i've been scouring this awsome site for info, pictures and tips over the last three months, i think its only fair i offer up my efforts for you guys to rate. This helmet is based around a found bmx helmet that loosely resembles the MSH dimensions, the construction uses 2mm plastic card and car body filler + many hours! I'm going to cast in resin and fibre glass with an aluminium filler, the idea being to polish to a shiny finish and then layer paints. i would be greatfull of any feedback/critisism before i go to cast it......

Tell me you did not scratchbuild that. You're joking right? :P

If you did in fact make that yourself that is fan-friggin-tastic!! All you scratchbuilders are doing amazing work lately, I'm very envious of the skill you have to build an entire helmet.

:suprise *** ....DUDE that is amazing!!!!!!!!!! Nice work.:thumbsup

I have to echo what JFJ said. . . you scratched that????????
Geez, if I had any sculpting ability at all. . . grumble, grumble

Absolutely stellar!

You made that in 3 months?!?

Got any work-in-progress pics? I'd be highly interested in seeing how it came together.

The scratchbuilders are coming out of the woodwork! :suprise

Nice work man! :thumbsup

The only possible, tiny, insignificant thing I could mention would be the line I've highlighted below. I believe it's supposed to be vertical, rather than angled in as you made it.

wow. just wow.

Woah!
I am impressed! (to say the least)
Very nice!

Thats freaking awesome! Its soo smoothe...you just need a borden connector and your good.

I feel Light headed :b
Frickin kick a$$ Dude!!! That looks alot like a bobamaker bucket

You have GOT to be kidding me!!!!! WOW!

ummmmmmmm....yeah...................what they all said!:suprise (jaw on floor)

Steve:fettesb

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You made that in 3 months?!?

Got any work-in-progress pics? I'd be highly interested in seeing how it came together.

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Yeah, work in progress pics would be cool

:suprise :thumbup

:jango

Show progress photos just to humor us.

Ok, when are they for sale?

AWESOME!8)

The dent looks strikingly similar to my MSH2 dent. It also has the same wavy brow as my MSH2. I would be very intrested in seeing progress pics.

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The dent looks strikingly similar to my MSH2 dent. It also has the same wavy brow as my MSH2. I would be very intrested in seeing progress pics.

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Really? I thought it looked more like the BM helmet dent and brow.

Perhaps, I am not looking at my MSH2 right now, but that is what I thought of the moment I saw it. I forgot BM's dent was textured like that also. But since he mentioned that his helmet was close in measurment to a MSH that is what made me think of that.

Some "how it was made pic's" would be a great thing to provide now...:thumbsup

Just looking at some comparison pic's of both TF and BM buckets and there are lots of minor differences...
but some very strong simularitys also...

I have adjusted the background to be black on TF's pic.
I have filled in a grey visor area on BM's pic.
I have slightly resized the TF pic down smaller.
I have rotated TF pic by about 2 degree's to match the angles.

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/4619/bmbucket4ce.jpghttp://img69.imageshack.us/img69/300...ketcopy3ya.jpg

Its the wavy brow that seemed to stand out the most to me, so i just had to play around and see how close they really matched...


Then...
I used Photoshop's "magic wand" to highlight an area on the front of TF's bucket and "moved" it across onto the BM bucket....

well it fits very well and its very similar to say the least...( i have a picture that shows this but wont post it yet so i dont seem like a pitchfolk weilding villager..)

Now im not trying to start anything here, heck....
I still remember the days of BM being dragged across the coals way back when he first bought out his bucket for show-and-tell...:lol :lol

im just agreeing with above comments that some progress pics might be a wise idea...:thumbsup

surely, if the top is a BMX POTTY helmet then lets just see the inside of the bucket?...;)

Proof-positive of an original scratcher if the POTTY's visible there, aint it?...:)

Mason.8)

3 months to build that?!? Man it took me that long to just put a paintjob on mine, that I only consider better than average

haha, dude if your lying- your gonna b shot on this forums

but if you telling the truth....your a bucket god in my eyes!!!

nice helmet, i scrathbuilt my own , just wish looks that good.Its very hard to get all the materials here in Costa Rica to scrathbuilt your helmet, right now i am making a fiberglass mold of the sculpt,wish me luck.

other pics

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Oh my GOD....jaw hits ground big time.

Man that bucket is :suprise :suprise :suprise

I feel as though i have really missed the boat with mine. I am sure all my dimensions are wrong and the b1oody thing aint going to fit on my head :(

well done man

Terminal fettler - your bucket is THE best scratch built i have ever seen, and i have seen quite a few. Please post some pics of the inside and some progress pics (those are a must see)

thanks for all the feedback and comments, firstly superjedi, you're right about the pronounced trim angle, but i kind of liked the way it looked! secondly its a real complement to be compaired with Bobamakers great helmet....the similarities are purely coincidental...to construct my potty ive used as many ref pics from this site as possible, but always referring back to screen images from ESB. i traced images from screen onto perspex, allowing me to line up my helmet by eye and check the shape during construction, crude but effective. the bmx potty was prised off a mates head( i promised him a finished helmet as payment!)all the vent holes were filled and basic trimming and sanding done( it made me wonder wether the original helmet was bike related as one of the vent holes was close to the dent?) i then curved 2mm plastic sheet to form the front and back. this formed a tube shape rather than flairing all the around, i had to fix a bar inside to produce desired ear flair. this pulled the back of the helmet inwards, forming an ideal starting point for the grill. once the frame work for the grill was in place i filled around this to the desired thickness....the rest followed on from there! heres some pictures:

Excellent stuff!:thumbsup

Having the fore-thought to take progress pic's saves you alot of trouble, hence why they were asked for...;)

Great job and now sit back and bask in your glory!:cheering

It would be great to get some side by sides with other available buckets for comparisons of size etc...:thumbsup

Mason.8)

I have to admit that I thought this thread was going to turn bad real fast. But great googly moogly that is one awesome idea, and a super awesome fett helmet you have there. The buddy that gave up the helmet will be very pleased that he did so, I wouldnt mind having one myself. Im still speechless that you got it that good on your first try, wish I could do the same.

Still needs a Boren connector on the cheek!

WOW! Definitely impressed, and the man hours :? It brings a tear to the eye.

Cast away, Commander....looks abso-freakin'-lutley fan-freakin'-tastic!!!!:cheers :thumbup

Just from the master-jedi pics I could tell it wasn't a recast, it seems to be a symmetrical sculpt. The MS2 is an A-symmetrical sculpt... behold!

I made them different colors to show the differences!

awsome work dude!!!!!!!!!!!!

whoa man! are you sure thats even a scratch-build?!?!? you got some mad skillz dude!

That's amazing,

do you know what helmet you used as a base?

again, nice work

-=QuinN!

There you go all it took was some progress pics and the pitchforks and torches go away. Great looking helmet you got there.Very genius way to get it to work.

:thumbup :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup

you rock

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That's amazing,

do you know what helmet you used as a base?

again, nice work

-=QuinN!

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the basic measurements pretty much follow the MSH dimensions, however, i cross referenced at all stages with off screen tracings from as many angles as poss. This may appear very crude ( from the poor photos below it does anyway) but i felt happier trusting my eye. In terms of scale , i think its marginally bigger than an MSH. Using my patented "back door computer screen" (Bill Gates feel free to....) the outlines do match, its just difficult to show through a digital camera lense!

nice method! your friend is gonna get one heck of a return on his investment ;)

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I have to admit that I thought this thread was going to turn bad real fast. But great googly moogly that is one awesome idea, and a super awesome fett helmet you have there. The buddy that gave up the helmet will be very pleased that he did so, I wouldnt mind having one myself. Im still speechless that you got it that good on your first try, wish I could do the same.

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Er, not exactly my first attempt, this was a 2 month rush job for new years 05 (though not the paint job i used) its always valuble to learn from your mistakes, i think more ref material may have helped......I wish i had known of this site back then!( its not always a good idea being drunk in charge of a Boba Fett....)

That is still an awesome scratch build for a second try, especially since its based off a bicycle helmet. That paint job is awesome too man. You are gonna have an awesome Fett suit when you get finished. It will blow your O5 suit away.

Well there you go, just gotta spend that extra month:) No seriously, that is one sweet bucket, especially for 3 months. :thumbsup for you

thanks for the positive comments everyone. im just finishing the range finder and stalk, and am a little bit stumped on how to cast the stalk hollow? I want the three leds in the unit but all the gubbins tucked away in the helmet. Now, i do have a steady hand but drilling down 8" of resin doesnt seem doable! So any pointers?

very cool!...
I am sure someone can chime in with advise on casting a hollow stalk. I know that some have actually cast extruded metal pipe in them before, for strength, you may be able to use that to your advantage. Just an idea.

As for the cat's arse....couldn't tell ya, I don't look at them...

thanks for that, i've removed that last comment( didnt want people to get the wrong idea!)

i have no clue really, but i would think have some sort of rod covered in release agent woudl be placed in the middle, with the resin surrounding it, and once it has cured, the rod would slip out and it would be hollow.

that's just how i woudl imagine.

but i don't know for sure


-=QuinN!

thats a great idea, i may give that a go, cheers...

Another possibility would be to put the wires in the stalk while you are casting it.

Thats impressive !!!! :suprise

I believe you could just use some sort of small aluminum tube and just leave it in...I think someone else on the boards was doing the same thing.

Do you by chance have a pic of the bmx helmet before you turned it into an amazing piece of art?

unfortunately i dont. i can tell you it was made by Bell, and it had a ridge around the back which i had to sand flat. also had loads of vents which had to be filled. when i measured the circumference it was approx. 15mm more than the msh dimension, so i thought it would be a good match...

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unfortunately i dont. i can tell you it was made by Bell, and it had a ridge around the back which i had to sand flat. also had loads of vents which had to be filled. when i measured the circumference it was approx. 15mm more than the msh dimension, so i thought it would be a good match...

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My bucket is off to you. This another helmet for inspiring Fett makers to compare to. You did an excellent job my friend. So how bout a Republic Commando helmet??;) hmmm??

Funny you should mention that, i was thinking of starting a new project. What does a Republic Commando Helmet look like then...?

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Funny you should mention that, i was thinking of starting a new project. What does a Republic Commando Helmet look like then...?

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Like this.

i think i might not be making one of those!

So many people with so much talent...God I'm unlucky...

Great bucket by the way. Amazing work on a scratch built bucket. Make sure you get the best paint job you can (hate to see it wasted...).

I have to chime in and say "Wow." The talent on this board is amazing. Great job! :thumbsup

Bravo. Amazing work there!

Its beautiful...:cry

I want one! When will you start selling?!

thanks for the comments. i' m still beavering away on the details, havent had a chance to mould the potty yet but heres the cold cast aluminium parts ive done so far! ( thanks to sss excellent tutorial, although its been adapted for casting )

...WOW...PROGRESS PICS! DETAILS!

not exactly progress pics, but a few mould shots, details and a pile of bits....

I would be interested in a range finder as well. Please put me on your list when you start pulling them.

I want one! :D

What is the size? Movie Sized Helmet?

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unfortunately i dont. i can tell you it was made by Bell, and it had a ridge around the back which i had to sand flat. also had loads of vents which had to be filled. when i measured the circumference it was approx. 15mm more than the msh dimension, so i thought it would be a good match...

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Is this style close?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...7634?n=3375251
Doesn't really have a ridge though.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Or closer to this style?
-Great Helmet btw!

that first one looks close, you only need a basic form to start with, by adding thin layers of filler you can tweak the overall shape until its just right...i would use those mystery helmet measurements as a guide, cheers...

Oh, I'm not planning on doing a Boba helmet at the moment, lol, I still have other projects to finish up like my wolverine claws. I was just bored and did a quick search in case any one wanted try one of there own. Once again that helmet is sweet!

Just a quick update on my scratchbuild. I've just cast the clear resin piece and installed a basic led kit i modified to include a blue/white screen light. The kit included two adjustment screws for led speed and alternation and by a total fluke just snapped into place! I couldn't find a mercury switch so have installed a basic bearing tilt switch, seems to work just fine. I'm still tweaking details on the helmet and hopefully casting soon......

Holy ****! That's awesome! This makes me want to give up on attempting a scratchbuilt! But I know I'll be trying anyways...

aaaa...WOW..:suprise ...just WOW.

Amazing work! For us non-tech guys, what's a bearing tilt switch? I have a mercury switch in mine but its VERY sensitive.

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Amazing work! For us non-tech guys, what's a bearing tilt switch? I have a mercury switch in mine but its VERY sensitive.

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It's basically a small tube with a ball bearing in it.

it rolls down to the end and makes contact with two terminals - completing the circuit.

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Amazing work! For us non-tech guys, what's a bearing tilt switch? I have a mercury switch in mine but its VERY sensitive.

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I think they work on the same principle, its a tiny tube with two terminals at one end (these run to the battery) the bearing rolls from one end to the other either making or breaking the current. This is also a very sensitive switch, as the bearing moves easily in the tube!
****, you just beat me to that explanation:doh

Finally got round to moulding the potty! Heres a pic of the skin mould sat in its two piece jacket, the T20 silicone rubber just peeled straight off the master leaving it intact, phew. (i had visions of having to break it up ) Luckily the T20 is very elastic:cheering In 48 hours time (when its properly cured) i should have a cold cast aluminium bucket...........to start painting

Sweet man! I cant wait to see the final bucket!

-Carson

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Finally got round to moulding the potty! Heres a pic of the skin mould sat in its two piece jacket, the T20 silicone rubber just peeled straight off the master leaving it intact, phew. (i had visions of having to break it up ) Luckily the T20 is very elastic:cheering In 48 hours time (when its properly cured) i should have a cold cast aluminium bucket...........to start painting

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I read *cold cast aluminum bucket* :drool That's :suprise wow!

How many hours left. cant wait to see this

At last! It stopped raining and the sun came out just long enough for a few pics:cheering This just popped out of the mould an hour ago, i've given it a quick buff with a foam sanding block and cut out the visor. The T visor is just held in with tape for effect. I'm going to slightly up the alu powder mix on the next potty to see how far i can take the finish. Next i'm going to make a borden and cold cast in bronze to give it that gold glint....Hope you enjoy the pics.....

Fantastic work !!! :thumbsup

Very nice job, looks great, accurate and very clean - love the cold cast!!!

Totally sick!! GREAT WORK MAN!
Can I buy one from you?

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Foul language is not allowed on TDH.

Just cast helmet no.2,i increased the alu. powder content quite a bit until it was just brushable. Buffed up nicely. This will be the one i atempt to paint.....

That is absolutely beautiful :thumbup

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Just cast helmet no.2,i increased the alu. powder content quite a bit until it was just brushable. Buffed up nicely. This will be the one i atempt to paint.....

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Very nice - should make masking the "silver" damage really easy! --

keep up the great shots!

Sweet dude! I cant wait to see that sucka painted!!!

woah!! cold cast aluminum helmets! sounds slightly easier than HS's aluminum helmet ;) Great job

I wouldnt mind tryin out an aluminated RF....****, i wish I knew how to really do these things.....

-tubachris
(Are those helms battle tested?)

wow very nice.

You better sell those SOBs.

Wow. I have great timing.

I haven't posted in a long time (and when I did, it certainly wasn't often), and I was just about to post asking what helmets were still for sale these days.

Now, I come on, and I see this masterpiece...

Dude, name a price already!

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Totally sick!! GREAT WORK MAN!
Can I buy one from you?

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OUCH! Dude watch the F-bomb there's kids on this site!>:

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Totally sick!! GREAT WORK MAN!
Can I buy one from you?

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Dude, come on. Keep it clean.

SWEEEET! :drool

:suprise :drool :thumbup SWEEEEEET!!!! Dude, please tell me you're going to sell these! And please tell me you'll still be selling these when I start my ESB Fett!!! That is awesome! Wicked cool sculpt, cold cast aluminum, awesome rangefinder...:wacko

Sorry for being newb-ish, but is cold cast any different to paint? Do you have to use special paints, or will any paint do?

Again, GREAT job!

-Chris

How hard is it to trim stuff off of cold cast stuff? i.e. cutting out the visor. Is it like cutting resin or like cutting metal?

-Carson

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How hard is it to trim stuff off of cold cast stuff? i.e. cutting out the visor. Is it like cutting resin or like cutting metal?

-Carson

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Cold cast is no more difficult to cut or sand than a resin with a regular filler, its purely the nature of the alu. filler which gives the metallic finish. I've painted both acrylics and enamels onto this stuff with good results....

Is there "fiberglass" reinforcement?