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    Aug 23, 2016, 12:04 AM - Back Panel concrete color #1

    I am wondering if anyone has any good substitutions for the tan on the back panels that is a bottled color. I have used the humbrol 28 misted with 103 in the past but I was just wondering if there is anything straight from the bottle that is a good alternative. I know the color used to be Floquil Concrete... is there anything close to that out there?

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    Aug 23, 2016, 12:11 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #2

    Model master concrete. Though it's acrylic so you'd have to be careful with its interaction with the enamel humbrols.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 1:44 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #3

    Quote Raizo said: View Post
    Model master concrete. Though it's acrylic so you'd have to be careful with its interaction with the enamel humbrols.
    They only make it in acrylic?
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    Aug 23, 2016, 4:44 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #4

    There is no issue applying acrylic over enamel or vice versa so long as both are dry but as you would usually wait for each coat to be properly dry before applying the next this doesn't matter. They do not react to each other.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 6:14 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #5

    True. I've used acrylics over enamels or vice versa for years.
    As long as everything is dry there shouldn't be any issues at all.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 7:16 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #6

    I've heard MM Light Sea Gray cited as a possible alternative and they definitely do that in enamel. I have some and it's certainly similar but it doesn't have that slight brown tinge the floquil concrete does but it is very close. I don't know the MM concrete to comment on it. If you hold out some floquil concrete will come up.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 8:20 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #7

    i have floquil concrete here and conrete from MM both are pretty much the same color. Aged concrete is close as well....
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    Aug 23, 2016, 8:26 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #8

    That's good to know because the floquil bottles of different generations that i have are the same colour down the years.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 8:57 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #9

    Quote intwenothor said: View Post
    That's good to know because the floquil bottles of different generations that i have are the same colour down the years.
    I'll pull some out real quick before the gym....let it dry while Im there....its polyscale actually I like acrylics have a few colors here that are all close for those who dont have MM theres tamiya colors also ( i have a paint problem)
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    Aug 23, 2016, 9:07 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #10

    You can see the two concretes are very close. Not all the way dry but almost identical. Age has a lot to do with that I'm sure. One is probably as old as 20 years or older. Who knows. The other is from this year.

    The Tamiya in a pinch would work. But they're not quite right. I bought them while at the hobby shop as tests.




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    Aug 23, 2016, 10:19 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #11

    Nice. One of my floquil concretes is very old but it's defo the same as one of my newer bottles.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 10:28 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #12

    Quote intwenothor said: View Post
    There is no issue applying acrylic over enamel or vice versa so long as both are dry but as you would usually wait for each coat to be properly dry before applying the next this doesn't matter. They do not react to each other.
    This is actually exactly what I meant. I can't articulate as well when it's late.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 11:10 AM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #13

    Dom, I think I might have tried that Tamiya dark yellow as a potential color for the RF ear at some point.
    I was looking for a substitute for Polly Scale earth but I don't think I liked the dark yellow for some reason.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 12:32 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #14

    I have earth here too. I'll put some on a spoon. I think I have an alt color for that also. Might be a humbrol though.


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    Aug 23, 2016, 1:17 PM - Back Panel concrete color #15

    Quote superjedi said: View Post
    Dom, I think I might have tried that Tamiya dark yellow as a potential color for the RF ear at some point.
    I was looking for a substitute for Polly Scale earth but I don't think I liked the dark yellow for some reason.
    XF57 Buff is the color you seek! Pics when its dried but yeh its the same

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    Aug 23, 2016, 2:35 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #16

    That's not bad at all. Eventually the old stock of floquil will dry up completely so it's good to know there are some real alternative options. I've spent a fortune on this old paint in the last year or so.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 3:35 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #17

    Wow. Awesome! Thanks for the input guys!
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    Aug 23, 2016, 4:09 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #18

    Cool, thanks for the comps.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 4:27 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #19

    Quote intwenothor said: View Post
    That's not bad at all. Eventually the old stock of floquil will dry up completely so it's good to know there are some real alternative options. I've spent a fortune on this old paint in the last year or so.
    With a small amount of brown youd get the right color...even with the rust splatter all over it it would end up being the color you want....
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    Aug 23, 2016, 4:50 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #20

    There seem to be really close off the shelf colours for a lot on the RS list; caboose is one I'm not sure on but I've managed to secure enough of most of the old colours that I shouldn't have an issue. I've more earth than I'll ever need, completely by accident I hasten to add. That's another colour that doesn't seem to have changed from my older bottles to the newer iterations.
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    Aug 24, 2016, 7:43 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #21

    Dom, thanks a lot for the color swatches (spoons!), that's very helpful for us new guys.
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    Aug 24, 2016, 7:55 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #22

    Ill photo them dry together later today and post again....forgot to do that the other day. Ive got a lot of paint at the house...been at trying to nail down replacements since 2 years ago....had a year off and am just now getting back to it. Should make a thread about it sooner or later. Been busy though with work and work and work... and family.
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    Aug 24, 2016, 9:53 PM - Re: Back Panel concrete color #23

    Here they are dry.





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