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  1. AntMan's Avatar
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    Jun 5, 2008, 4:06 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #51

    Quote madmanmoe64 said: View Post
    Can you give a bit more detail about the sealing? Did you dilute the primer?, how many layers?, did you sand it down in between or anything?

    Concerning the sealing, I diluted the Gesso with about 20% tap water in order to get a smooth finish. Undiluted Gesso causes a grainy finish, which you probably don't want.
    Putting on about 4 to 5 thin layers with fine sanding (Grade 400) in between each layer will suffice.

    Where needed I also used light weight filler to smoothen/straighten the surface; before sealing that is.

    Good luck
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    Jun 6, 2008, 4:53 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #52

    Oh. My. Kingdom Hearts. (damn that old fandom. forget I said that)

    When sanded, the pieces almost looks a lot like wood to me. If I had more colored ink, I'd totally print this thread ASAP! I'm using cardboard for my bucket, too. But it was a disaster.

    PS: I'm a little slow, so what's the thickness of the cardboard you used, AntMan?

    PPS: Is the right ear possible to be raised and lowered, before it's glued to the bucket?
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    Jun 6, 2008, 6:39 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #53

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    1. Quick drying white glue (glue for wood type of materials)
    2. A couple of clothes pins
    3. Sanding paper, rough to fine grade (180 to about 400 grade)
    4. Hot glue gun, as an alternative for 1
    5. Hot glue sticks
    6. Gesso primer for sealing/primering the finished bucket; US: Minwax Polycrylic Sealer
    7. A fine tip ink pen, for drawing templates onto the cardboard
    8. A hobby knife with plenty of re-fills
    9. Sculpting knifes, for applying filler
    10. Filler! This particular type is for filling holes in walls; US: Bondo Car Body Filler
    11. Two pieces of flat-surface wooden planks, for flattening the ear areas (see described in post #9 above)
    12. An old-fashioned glue clamp, preferably a couple of these
    13. A misting bottle, for spraying the cardboard moist
    14. Blue painter's masking tape; the tape is blue, not the painter
    15. A ruler of some sort
    16. A good camera as your best witness, share the progress!
    17. An acrylics paintroller
    18. A big piece of linoleum to protect your wife's (or mother's) kitchen table from cutting pieces of cardboard
    Hang on... if # 16 is your camera.... what did you take the picture with????? Aaaaaaa! I'm so confused!!!



    This tuturial is awesome. Very detailed account of what you did, and very skillfully done.
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    Aug 2, 2008, 11:30 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #54

    Where's the rest? It's been two months!
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    Aug 4, 2008, 5:38 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #55

    i hope you do update this, its been really helpful and we'd all like to see it keep going ;]
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    Aug 5, 2008, 2:45 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #56

    Hi everyone,

    I know, I know....it has been toooo long since the last update for sure :o. And I have to apologise to all of you. I'm sooo sorry I haven't been able to update this thread, because of the simple fact I haven't had the time to do any work on my scratch build.
    Ever since the last update I went on mission for the office I work for (back and forth between Germany, Austria and Holland), got a promotion, took care of some things around the house, help my mom with her house being refurbished, etc. Also the family life has been taking up most of my spare time. Some weeks were also quite tropical down here, so we had to enjoy that too.

    But I promise, when the time is right (certainly before the end of 2008!!!) I will dedicate more time to continuing finishing my helmet building method. I didn't plan on deserting this thread or you guys. I just was busy the last couple of months. So please keep faith, for AntMan will return!

    Greetz,
    Peter
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    Aug 5, 2008, 3:05 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #57

    No sweat, brother...I have the same problem to deal with: Life.
    Rob
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    Aug 5, 2008, 3:21 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #58

    Quote Ghostsoldier said: View Post
    No sweat, brother...I have the same problem to deal with: Life.
    Rob
    Thanks for hitting that nail on its head, Rob!

    Peter
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    Aug 15, 2008, 4:26 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #59

    Well, here it is. A very small update for the building of this cardboard helmet. It's not much but at least gives you something to fiddle with as it involves quite some intricate detail and skill (mostly patience and a sharp knife actually).

    First I started applying filler to the cheeks and helmet dome. Keeping the filler sculpting knife moist helps smoothing the filler surface a lot:









    I tried to get the filler as smooth onto the dome and cheeks as possible, so the sanding part will be a lot easier.
    But before sanding, this should be left to dry completely for at least 24 hours. So that gave me some time to focus on preparing the keyhole area.

    I drew out the pattern from the keyhole frame template onto some cardboard and left some extra trim around the edges (for support when glueing inside the bucket).



    Also, I glued the keyhole template itself to a piece of cardboard:



    Then it was simply cutting the cardboard layer by layer. I did this very carefully because the resulting keyhole piece is very delicate:



    Some finer detail:



    One keyhole fully cut:



    And presto, the entire vent:





    It doesn't fit into the frame yet as you can see. That's because it needs to be bent into a curved shape.



    So after a light spray with tap water, the bending resulted in this shape:



    It is worth stressing that you should not moisten the cardboard too much as this will result in the cardboard losing its composure. Especially the very thin edges will break easily if you use too much spray water.

    I kept the paper side (still glued to the cardboard) on the inside of the keyhole:



    Then I just applied some white glue to the inside at these places:



    In this picture you can see that the top of the keyhole frame also has a slight curve outward:



    The last two bits are also cut from the glued-on template:



    Also glued in place this is the result (notice that for this one I forgot the extra trim):



    But some spare cardboard glued to the long edges also does the trick:



    The edges of the keyhole connecting to the frame still need to be filled up to get a seamless piece.

    That's it for now. And since I will be enjoying 8 days of holiday in the Spanish sun I won't be checking TDH until I get back.

    So don't hold your breath, but stay tuned for more!
    Peter
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    Aug 15, 2008, 5:09 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #60

    At last. Worth the long waiting. Your work is amazing Antman! It almost,just almost makes me regret that I won Ronin's lid just a while ago... Still, I have a metal pot under way... If I can make something out of it before it rusts away..
    And, yes, Stickied this should be! Definately!
    -Ville
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    Aug 15, 2008, 5:09 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #61

    Hmm.. I did NOT double posts... something is a miss with my modem. Sorry for the double post.
    But still, Stickied this should be! Definately!
    -Ville
    Last edited by chibi fett; Aug 15, 2008 at 5:17 PM.
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    Aug 16, 2008, 12:00 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #62

    Your helmet looks killer buddy!!
    Pure Dutch awesomeness!

    Ruben
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    Aug 16, 2008, 5:14 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #63

    For your second, that is one of the best documented buildouts I've seen. Awesome!
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    Aug 16, 2008, 5:28 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #64

    Yeeeeeaaaahhh, let the awesomeness continue! Been waiting for this one for months! Great job man!
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    Aug 17, 2008, 1:58 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #65

    I've just read this thread from start to now. WOW! Your skill is superb! It's been great to see this come together, having just completed my card based helmet build. I've enjoyed reading through and seeing how you did yours and compare it to my own build.

    Your ear pieces are just pure genius! They turned out really great.

    Thanks for this thread.
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    Aug 17, 2008, 2:13 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #66

    This should be stickied....
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    Aug 17, 2008, 2:17 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #67

    Agreed. This is invaluable to new members or even those who have never built their own lid before. I remember when I first saw the WOW templates that they scared the c#*p out of me as I didn't know where to begin.

    This thread answers all te questions I had back then.
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    Aug 17, 2008, 12:46 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #68

    This should be one of THE examples of how best to use WoF's plans.
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    Aug 17, 2008, 3:19 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #69

    That is the best cardboard build of anything. Amazing work.
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    Aug 17, 2008, 7:45 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #70

    Simply Amazing! Real artistry. I tip my bucket to you sir!
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    Aug 18, 2008, 10:17 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #71

    When you stopped posting I had a go at the dome myself, and ballsed it up. Now i can empty the crisp packets out of it and start building again .
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    Aug 21, 2008, 10:28 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #72

    I've posted a couple of questions here before and just wanted to officially say Thanks. This thread has made it easy(er) to get on with my build and atm it's not looking too bad.

    You can see my attempt here: http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=27382
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    Sep 2, 2008, 9:58 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #73

    AntMan, I gotta tell ya....your step-by-step is great! I am building two scratch-builds at the same time using your tutorial and WOF templates. One for my 7 year old and one for my 3 year old. I had to scale the templates down a bit and I think I got the wrong thickness of matte board (here in the US). But I think it's "thin-ness" will be good for weight reasons and simply having to cut smaller pieces and shaping them.

    Great work!!!!!
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    Sep 3, 2008, 2:14 PM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #74

    Ok First i have to say you are a god among men i love the4 templates im printing them out as i type and as soon as i possibly can ima try my own scratch built and if you dont mind im going to see what i can do about putting this all together into a how to packet for you to give out again only if you dont mind me doing it.

    Brad
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    Sep 4, 2008, 8:28 AM - Re: AntMan's Second Cardboard Scratch Build #75

    Quote xbrotherx said: View Post
    AntMan, I gotta tell ya.... Great work!!!!!
    Thanks xbrotherx! Can we see some pics of your progress? You've got two lucky kids!

    Quote null13 said: View Post
    ....try my own scratch built .... putting this all together into a how to packet ... if you dont mind me doing it.

    Brad
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    Hey Brad! No problemo dude. In my view that's what this forum is all about. Sharing information, inspiring and helping each other whenever possible. Any suggestions or tips are very welcome! Can't wait to see your progress.

    And @Gypsyboy: I am still puzzled myself how I did the pic with the camera in it.....

    Thanks for all you positive comments so far. Right now I am working on the RF stalk and topper and will be posting the progress soon (I hope).

    Be cool 8)
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