Another scratch made bucket

He looks eager!

nice work, where did you get the plastic card from?

The main part of the bucket was made with plastic card that's ~1mm thick. For the curved part of the cheeks, I used 0.080" thick plastic card. The 1mm stuff was free from my room mates work, the 0.080" thick was purchased at a local hobby shop.

And to answer your question dung0beetle, my son is very eager as he loves his new helmet. I still need to do tons of work on his and mine. I've got the make the ears next, but the range finders for both are already done. ( I'll post up pics of them later, as I haven't taken any yet. )

Is the hobby shop you're referring to in that little plaza area with the wendy's and subway? I think I stopped in there when I stayed in ottawa

That's the one my friend, near the intersection of Bank and Huntclub.

They aren't carrying plastic card or any of the Plastruct products anymore, but I have other sources. 8)

Here's a couple of pics of the rangefinders that I've made... all out of plastic of course.






I made them hollow in case I wanted to add the electronics for the lights later on.

Yeah I swung in there. On my way up the ONLY place with any vacancy was this place I believe was called monterey inn. it was on prince of whales ave I think.

I went up to the wendy's to grab some lunch and caught the hobby shop out of the corner of my eye. Saw a bunch of stuff I wanted but didn't pick anything up. I may stop there on my way back thru tho.

Hey those look really good! Nice to see that you're getting your son involved in your hobbies.
I think it's so important to give kids creative things to do, even if it's not so much "hands on," but giving him input into different aspects of the helmet (like the color of the visor) will hopefully let him express his creative side.

Originally Posted by superjedi

Hey those look really good! Nice to see that you're getting your son involved in your hobbies.
I think it's so important to give kids creative things to do, even if it's not so much "hands on," but giving him input into different aspects of the helmet (like the color of the visor) will hopefully let him express his creative side.

My son loves pretty much anything that I make for him, like the putting green I made out of cardboard for him when he was two. I rigged it so he'd get a hole in one every time.

zombierepellent, if you do decide to drop by that shop again you can feel free to give me a buzz as I live a couple of minutes away from there. It's a mere 6 min drive from my house to the airport terminal. Let me know and I can PM you my number.

Oh I'll deffinetly be stopping by, that hobby shop was way better than the one in the west edmonton mall.
It'll be on august 12, I start my way from whitehorse to maine on the first.

Man, thats looking good!
Rob

Thanks Ghostsoldier, as I've been following your thread on the other forum on the builds that you and your son are doing, I'll consider it a big compliment.

Many times I was getting frustrated, and even felt that all my effort was for naught... I had it in my head that my bucket was made too big for me. I've since discovered that it's perfectly sized. ( what a relief )

I found that browsing through your thread over on Mandalorian Mercs really helped to reassure me. So thanks.

Jango,
No problem, man....glad my tutorial could be of some help! Keep an eye on it...I'm doing the ears build-up right now, and will be adding to the post soon....
Rob
(PS...you got any questions, just ask!)

That's turning out great!

I've got my left ear finished and attached, now I'm working on finishing up the upper section of the right ear. The range finder and stalk are done, and rotate up and down. ( I used rare earth magnets to hold the stalk in the up position... just in case. )

I'll try to post up picks tomorrow, if I have the time and get enough done. 8)

Well, I haven't had a chance to check out Ghostsoldiers post for his ear build-up update, but I did get a lot more done on mine. I've still got a ton of fine tuning to do, but I thought that I should post some pics and get some feedback from the membership.

I'd like to alter, adjust and/or tweek anything that's just not right ( in a huge way, as minor details can be lived with for now ), before I prep this bucket for primer and paint.

I'm shooting to enter the 501st, so I need all of your help. :thumbup

Now on to the pics...







From looking at countless photos of Jangos helmet, I think that I should extend the visor opening more towards the ears. ( where the line and arrow in black pen are ) What do you all think... should I extend it, or leave it?

Nice! :thumbup

Thanks. :o

Originally Posted by ItsThatGuy

Nice! :thumbup

Here's a pic of me with my helmet on, to give a sense of scale. I had fears that I made it too big... for a brief moment.

Jango,
Your progress is amazing! Looks like you conquered those ears perfect, even without my tutorial! I'm in the process of building the RF and right ear even as we speak, as soon as I can dissect Alan's patterns! The left ears are done...those were the easy ones! Anyways...your helmet looks SWEET! Keep those pics coming!
Rob

Thanks again Rob, as always your comments are well received. :thumbup

For the right ear pieces, I used at least two different thicknesses of plastic card from 3mm to 1mm. I found that Alains templates were beyond compare, and only had to alter some of the pieces to allow for the thickness of my materials.

Basically, keep the main top pieces as per the templates, then alter the bits that attach to the sides by making them slightly larger to allow them to be trimmed down to fit.

I kept lots of scrap plastic card on hand, and re-made the bits as needed. I did a lot of test fitting before glue was added, then trimmed/filed the final piece for that flush fit. Once I'm finished all of the fine tuning and it's time to shoot the primer, you'd be hard pressed to find the seams. 8)

Good luck on your ears.

Nice Bucket Jango72! I wish I could get as hands on with the fabrication... But I'm a painter not a builder. =) Anyways, I would cut the visor back to where you marked it. Looking at some pictures it seems the visor is extended just a bit more. The only other thing I would do before you lay any primer on to paint, it make sure the dome is smooth as can be! Jango is unforgiving, and looking at your pictures it looks like the dome isn't totally smooth. Get some bondo glszing and spot putty to fill any little spots.

But otherwise it looks great!

Phil

Thanks for the feedback, and rest assured that my fine tuning I spoke of in my earlier posts pertains to making the dome as smooth as possible. Seeing as I'm meticulously picky, it'll be perfectly smooth before I even think of going any where near my helmet with primer.I feel that the visor should be extended, but I'd like to hear from more members before I decide by how much I'm extending it.

Originally Posted by hellopike

Nice Bucket Jango72! I wish I could get as hands on with the fabrication... But I'm a painter not a builder. =) Anyways, I would cut the visor back to where you marked it. Looking at some pictures it seems the visor is extended just a bit more. The only other thing I would do before you lay any primer on to paint, it make sure the dome is smooth as can be! Jango is unforgiving, and looking at your pictures it looks like the dome isn't totally smooth. Get some bondo glszing and spot putty to fill any little spots.

But otherwise it looks great!

Phil

Jango,
What are you using for visor material? And how did you attach yours?
Rob

The visor that's in the helmet now is only temporary. I want to get a proper one soon, as you can easily see my face when the lighting is good. It's made from 0.080" thick tinted plastic sheet that I picked up at a local hobby shop for another project.

Awesome man, get that dome smooth and I think you will be just about there. Nice job!

That's looking sweet!! Like you said prepwork will be everything, especially on a Jango. Good luck and keep us posted.

Wow! This is a great looking helmet, the ears are fantastic, very nice work!! Do you have any in progress pic of those being built?

Can't wait to see it painted up.

Alan

P.S. I am working on a set of templates for Jango's helmet, but they are a long way from being done. Just haven't had any time to devote to my Fett stuff.

I'm with Alan on the pics of the ear-build....
Rob

I really wish that I had some "in progress pics" of the ears being made... but I don't.

I kinda tend to get rolling on something, and forget to stop and snap a few pics. :o

The ears themselves took me a few sessions of a couple hours each to make. It would've taken far less time, but I had to tweek all of the smaller side pieces to compensate for the different thickness of my plastic. ( the templates were designed with cereal box card in mind )

The right ear still comes apart, so I can remove the stalk and range finder. I was waiting until after the painting was complete to glue it. I can snap a pic or two of those pieces if that'd help at all.

As for the Jango version... it's pretty much the same as the Boba style but the top of T-visor extends further towards the ears and the minor angle to the back raised part right behind the ears. ( the part behind the ears won't be noticed by many, except the truly die-hards ) 8)

Jango...I'm having to use thinner card stock to make mine, also...the 1mm Sintra just doesn't make the 90 degree bends too easily, without snapping...the card stock is fibrous, therefore a little more bendable...I've got my left ear tutorial up over on the MMCC site now, and am presently going through the motions with the right ear and rangefinder...
Rob

For my ears, I used three thicknesses of plastic card...

1. 3mm for the ear base
2. 0.5mm for the main structures
3. 0.080mm for the curved piece

I didn't leave the right angle bits attached, only the sloped parts. All of the right angle, or side parts were made to fit using off cuts and extra plastic card. I just placed the bit, marked it and then cut it a tad bigger than needed to allow for filing down, to give it that nice tight fit. 8)

Jango...those ears look awesome! What brand of glue are you using?
Rob

For styrene, I use Humbrol plastic cement. It has this really cool needle applicator.



For other parts of the helmet, I used Loctite brand cyano-acrylite super glue. ( the gel style )

I think you're doing a pretty good job! Keep up the good work!

Thanks, Jango...I've been using superglue, but not the gel...I think I'll try it out tomorrow! I wonder if Testors model cement will substitute for the Humbrol?
Rob

Testors cement will work fine, but the Humbrol is a liquid where as the Testors is much thicker.

I find the liquid much easier to work with as it can be applied more precisely, especially on those tiny bits/greeblies.

Nice! I'll be hittin' a hobby shop this weekend to pick up the Humbrol....
Rob

Model Masters has a needle applicating liquid cement that I've been using on models for years. The past couple months I have use the humbrol glue like that it works just as good but I find the model masters glue more comfortable in my hand.

BTW guys I saw this first hand last night and it's looking better in person, it's pretty close to terminal Fettlers helmet in size.

Except for the size of the ears. Don't forget to mention that part bud.

You home already? Geez, that was fast.

Hope your other halfs trip goes/went well. ( I'm assuming that you guys didn't get lost on your way back to your hotel last night. )

Good to meet you and your wife, it's just too bad that we had such a short time to visit.

wow you amaze me GREAT job!

Forcebewitya.

Thanks, I've got my visor cut and tinted. Now I've got to devise my mounting method, I'd really like to keepit easily removeable in case something happens to it and I wish to replace it later on. I've still got to make the rear keyslots and mount it, and the dome will require at least one more scratch coat and some sanding. I'll be sure to post up some more pics before the end of the week.

Originally Posted by Forcebewitya

wow you amaze me GREAT job!

Forcebewitya.

I see you are a 40K player too. Good paint on the kroot. The helmet is lookin pretty sweet too.

-x

Yeah, I played 40K but I've been taking a very long break from it. I got tired of my local gaming groups, too much arguing. I decided to move from customizing and scratch building in 28mm scale to something that I can wear. Once you've done just about everything possible to convert/customize a Crisis suit, it's kinda time to move on to other things.

Those ears look really great.

Keep the pics coming, GREAT looking helmet!

Alan

Not much of an update I'm afraid as I've been quite busy at work lately.

I've now got the key slots made and installed, but still need one final sand on the dome and to make the brow triangles. A buddy of mine has some poly urethane that I'm going to use to coat the dome for added protection.

On to the pics...




I almost forgot... I've got a temporary T-visor made, but I'm still planning to go the welding visor route.

i'd stay with that visor it looks realy good!

The visor looks way better in the pic than in real life. The tinting film that I used isn't designed for plastic, and there's always issues with applying it to curved surfaces... in other words, it still crinkled and my vision tends to be a tad fuzzy in spots. The pre-tinted visor will only run me $8, with only needing to cut it out to fit, which is easily done with a dremel tool. Well worth the expense for clear vision to me.

ohhhhh your right i cant even tell from the pic

Very nice job!

You gotta love the big grin

Great job dad

You really do a great job here Jango72 !! Your son is very cute, I like his faces behind the blue visor

Thanks for the feedback guys, it's always well received.

I'll try and post up some more pics tonight, with close ups of the ears. You can see pretty well how I made them just from looking. I used a similar technique in making my sons as I did with making mine, save for the change in materials. ( I made the ears on my sons helmet out of hardboard, with cardboard for the curved/domed bits )

A couple sheets of stiff cardboard: 5 bucks
A tub of plaster and 30 tubes of superglue: 10 bucks
The sight of your son grinning with his Boba bucket on and being the envy of all his friends at Halloween: Priceless.

Rob

I'd have done his Boba style, that way you as jango and him as boba on halloween would look aweosme, but it looks awesome any way so rock on!

I had thought of that, but he's already picked his colours.

He says that he wants his helmet to have black and purple on it. I'm trying to decide whether it'll look better with silver ( rub-n-buff ) or a light grey as the third colour.

I figured that the curved part of the cheeks will be black, with the rest of the mandibles and ears purple. Then the dome, back and flat part of the cheeks in silver/grey.

Lookin good man. Your son, seemed pretty excited about the helmets when we swung by. what ever color variation you do I'm sure will look fine. from what I saw in your basement you got some decent painting skills

Thanks for the kind words bud.

Yeah, I've painted a few things, and my skills aren't all that bad either. I've yet to paint anything on this scale though, aside from wargaming terrain.

Here's one example of a miniature that I've painted using purples. ( the first pic shows the true colors, the second is kinda washed out but shows the technique rather well )

WOW! Great bucket!
It's amazing what you can do with plastic, WOF's templates and some enthusiasm! It's great when you can work on something with your kids, too. My kids are more pumped about Halloween this year than ever since I've been working on my PP2 Fett. I'm making cardboard helmets for them, so they'll be able to paint theirs the way they want to.

**Update!!**

I finally finished with the poly eurethane on the dome, and shot some primer so that I could see things better. I'm still not fully satisfied as I've found a few spots that still need some minor work. This is one of those times that I really hate being picky.

I've got my final visor installed now, complete with chicago screws ( boston screws to some ) so that it can removed easily. I think that one more session of tweeking the dome should do it, then I'll shoot the final coat of primer.

Now I'm turning my attention on constructing some gauntlets.

Here's what I hope will be the last batch of pictures before I start applying the rub n' buff and paint. I've got some side projects on the go as well, I've got to get my sons helmet finished up and start on another kids sized, and two sets of kids sized gauntlets. Should be some happy 5 year olds this Halloween.

Now, on with the pics...

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the best scratchbuilts out there

Thanks guys, that really means alot to me.

I've already started on resizing WizardofFlights templates to make a more accurate ( better looking ) kid scaled version. At 75%, the rangefinder looks soooooo cute!!

I've already begun work on the new kids sized version, so I'm gonna pretty busy from now until Halloween... but I'm loving it!! I'll be sure to post progress pics if I get the chance, but they might have to wait until after Halloween.

Wow.
Just wow.
Great work!

Jango,
I am humbled in your presence!:thumbup
That bucket is simply AWESOME! You should be really proud of your work!
Rob

I couldnt agree with you more ghost, thats REALY good!

Wow these scratchbuilds just get better and better great work!!!

very cool

Thanks for all the great replies guys, and thanks to you as well Rob. Without your build up thread over on Mando Mercs of yours and your sons helmets, I probably wouldn't have pressed on and finished mine to the stage it is now.

I owe a lot to the other members here on TDH, as I took ideas, suggestions and inspiration from all of their projects.

Cheers!!

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm currently in the middle of a scaled down helmet build.

Looks Great! What thickness of sintra are you using? Going to get mine started this weekend after I finish playing with WOFs templates.

Rytil.

I didn't use SINTRA to make mine... I used 1.5mm thick plastic sheet for the main structures.

I didn't use SINTRA as I had the plastic sheet on hand and I'm more skilled with it through constant practice. Once you've got a favorite material, you tend to stick with it as you know what to expect, and how to work it.

Originally Posted by Jango72

Thanks for all the great replies guys, and thanks to you as well Rob. Without your build up thread over on Mando Mercs of yours and your sons helmets, I probably wouldn't have pressed on and finished mine to the stage it is now.

I owe a lot to the other members here on TDH, as I took ideas, suggestions and inspiration from all of their projects.

Cheers!!

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm currently in the middle of a scaled down helmet build.

You know Alan's templates were originally hosted here.

I appologize if that statement didn't come across clearly.

What I meant was that I found Ghostsoldiers tutorial/buld thread over on Mando Mercs very useful, however I got the templates from TDH.

Sorry for any confusion caused.

Hello,

Just checking in. This really coming great!! I really love the visor attachment, clean and simple - the helmet is an excellent job!

Could you pm me the link to Ghostsoldiers tutorial/build thread from Mando Mercs forum I would really like to take a look at it.

The helmet templates are developing a life of their own I have lost count on how many scratch build are going on. I may have to start a thread to get everyone to post their scratch builts.

Alan

Cheers Alan, your templates are certainly the hit of countless many.

Here's the link to Ghostsoldiers thread over on Mando Mercs, it served as inspiration to kick my butt into gear when i felt llike the job was insurmountable. ( in laments terms... when ever I felt that I just couldn't finish it, seeing his success/build gave me the willpower/courage to get back at it )

Ghostsoldiers Mandolorian Mercs tutorial part 1
Ghostsoldiers Mandolorian Mercs tutorial part 2

Thanks so much for the compliments, guys...but it was a "mutual inspiration" effort, actually...Jango72 helped spur me along also, to get my bucket completed...:thumbup... Alan...keep in mind I have not posted the build for the right ear/RF yet...between work and college, I'm having a heck of a time keeping up with all my projects...but, I promise to finish the tutorial, chiefly because I don't like the idea of starting something and not finishing it......I was the victim of the "trying to get it done before DragonCon" syndrome...but now that's past, I'll try to finish it (my youngest son's helmet still needs the right ear and RF assembly added anyway...)...
Rob

It's been awhile since I last posted an update on my builds, so I figured that I'd throw up a few pics so you all could see what I've been cooking up.

I last mentioned that I was starting a scaled-down version, and here's a sneak peek at what I've accomplished so far...

This helmet was printed out at 85%, and it fits my 5 year old son perfectly.



The bottom of the helmet and the base of the dome are both made from hardboard/wood for strength.




It has the same functional bits as my full size, with the addition of rare earth magnets to hold the right ear cap on. I've still got some gap filling on the ears to do, some additional fine tuning on the dome, and the brow triangles to make. Then it's eurethane time followed by primer then paint.









Hope you like my latest version. I've got to get back to work though, as I've got an anxious 5 year old waiting for this helmet to complete a costume for Halloween.

Cheers!

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!! How did you attach your visor? I see the screws but what do they thread into?

just checked out this thread for the first time and im totally amazed...fantastic work on this...can't wait to see it finished

Jeeze, you are a master at building those things!!

Thanks for the kind words as always guys, but as they say... practice makes perfect. Seeing as this is my third build, I've had some decent practice.

The visor is held in with chicago or boston screws that I got at Home Depot in the screw/fastener aisle, they basically thread into themselves ( does that make any sense?!? ). I'll see if I can't post some pictures.

The half that has the internal threads is glued into the helmet by the flange on the back, then the visor ( with it's pre-drilled holes ) is inserted and a filler/washer is sandwiched over top, then the final half of the screw assembly is threaded in place. I used/elaborated on a visor mounting method that another TDH member posted a thread on some time ago. ( if my horrible memory serves me correctly, I think that it might have been Spideyfett? )






Here's the screws and the spacers I use. The spacers are plastic washers for kitchen faucets.

I found the thread on the T-visor mounting method that I altered/modified, and I was correct in my assumption as it was by Spideyfett.

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showt...visor+mounting

Ah, I understand now. Thanks for the pictures, the next time I install a visor I will definitely use this method.

New to the site, and my first post!

Jango72, that is truly impressive! I read this thread (among others) all the way through and am just so inspired. The folks on this site are tremendous. Thanks for sharing...can't wait to see your sons face on Halloween!

Scott

I'm glad that you enjoyed the read, and I'm always willing to share tips, tricks and techniques.

On a side note, I never said that the third helmet ( the most recently posted one ) was for my son. It's for another 5 year old that's been working so very hard on a Jango costume.

Speaking of which, here's some updated pics of that helmet. I'm finished with the primer now, as the ear cap and RF stalk didn't have any in these pics. I'm starting on the paint as we speak and then this helmet will be packaged up and shipped out on Friday. The part that really freaks me out the most though, is that this helmet weighs in at a mere 1 pound.

Originally Posted by Scooter

New to the site, and my first post!

Jango72, that is truly impressive! I read this thread (among others) all the way through and am just so inspired. The folks on this site are tremendous. Thanks for sharing...can't wait to see your sons face on Halloween!

Scott

Amazing work! You're fast, cannot wait to see them painted...

Chris

Danke Digifett.

I'll have pictures of the helmet with full paint up shortly, as I've already got both blues applied and am now rub-n-buffing my little heart out. The helmet is being boxed up and shipped off to Minnesota on Friday, where it'll finally be in the hands of an anxious 5 year old.

Beautiful work!! He is going to love it! I would love to see the pics of the kids wearing their Fett outfits.

Since you have done a number of helmets now is there anything about the templates that I need to changes or suggestions to make them easier to use?

What size (%) are you using for the kids helmet? I was considering developing a couple of different size templates one or two for the kids and definitely one for the larger Fetts out there.

Alan

Been following this thread and I just gotta say that this is one sweet build! Great work Jango72! And you're son is a lucky kid! Awesome! Can't wait to see these babies all painted up!

Thanks for sharing!

Stay safe,

Tim.

Wow! Just Wow!

That is simply superb.

Jango72, this is an inspiration for me. You, like digifett, have got some great tips here that I'm using for mine.

Originally Posted by wizardofflight

Beautiful work!! He is going to love it! I would love to see the pics of the kids wearing their Fett outfits.

Since you have done a number of helmets now is there anything about the templates that I need to changes or suggestions to make them easier to use?

What size (%) are you using for the kids helmet? I was considering developing a couple of different size templates one or two for the kids and definitely one for the larger Fetts out there.

Alan

I, personally, have found that with mine, I had to trim a little off where the upper cheeks connect to the face. But, the templates are wonderful and I'd rather have to cut than add.

Jango, didn't you say you just resized the printout for your son's bucket? That seems to me to be the easiest way to go.

Great job!

David.

I will be ready with the camera as she opens the box! We can't wait!!! Thanks for all your hard work.

It was my pleasure, I enjoyed making this helmet. I just wish that the dome came out smoother as the rub-n-buff shows every little dimple I missed. Before I add the pin-stripe and box it up, do you like the light blue or do you prefer the darker shade of blue on the mandibles as seen in the bottom picture? I can easily alter it.

Originally Posted by jedimite's mom

I will be ready with the camera as she opens the box! We can't wait!!! Thanks for all your hard work.

Beautiful job mate.

Your son was born a bounty hunter....like his father

I didn't quite make my Friday deadline for shipping the helmet off to Jedimite as I came home with a massive migraine last night. I took two extra strength Advils for migraines and crawled into bed for about 6 hours.

I got up around 10:30pm and seeing as I was feeling much better, I finished up my tweeks. While I was unconscious, my wonderful wife re-masked the cheeks for me. ( thanks again hun. ) I only had to mask off the remaining parts so I could re shoot the darker shade. Seeing as it's Jedimites helmet, I went with what they wanted.

I took a couple of pics this morning before finally boxing it up. I can't wait to see the look on Jedimites face when she opens her package on Friday.




Enjoy the helmet Jedimite!!

She loves it! Thank you sooo much! She is still carrying/wearing it all around. I can still smell fumes though, I may have to make her take a break