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Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Tamper with a casting, then you'll still have the original with the prepro routes in tact. Plus it would probably be easier to alter on a freshly cast piece as opposed to the original which has already been through a lot.

    the dent is a major concern. the previous castings had very dulled dents compared to some of the other helmets out there.

    Are you doing a one or two part mold for the next helmet?
    Seem lines are also something to think about as the castings from the last run needed moderate cleanup to get rid of the line from the mold jacket

    -=QuinN!

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Do adress the dent but really all you want to do is sharpen it, I can tell by looking that you sanded it out and by doing that you dulled out the detail in it. Use as many reference photos as possible becase light can play tricks on you and make it seem duller then it is or sharper.

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    evan4218 said: View Post
    I reccomend once the new molds are done to offer this in fiberglass. Why make it accurate... or more so then it is and not offer a fiberglass helemt. Thats what the screen used was.

    Ditto!!! I would much rather have a FG one.

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Are the arrows fixed so that they line up on your current helmets? I have one of the older ones and they are off a bit. Since no one has mentioned it I'm thinking you have fixed it.

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    I'd like to see it offered in fiberglass also! That's something I love about my MS1.

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Don't wanna see this thread slip away too soon!
    Sarge, you still planning on doing this?

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    This bouncy resin you've found...could you suspend aluminium in it too, cold-cast style?

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    If you need someone to purchase your first one of the new breed, please put on this list. Can't wait to spend a little time with one of your new buckets

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    HMPOTC33 said: View Post
    If you need someone to purchase your first one of the new breed, please put on this list. Can't wait to spend a little time with one of your new buckets
    Make that 2 people

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    I'm with evan4218, Jango's Kid, and superjedi...fiberglass please! Would it help if I mentioned that I have a birthday coming up, a generous girlfriend, and am in need of a bucket?
    Can't wait to see how it turns out!!

    -rocky b

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    man, would i love one of these! even though im saying this being a newbie and all, ur work is awesome and fiberglass would be great!!:thumbup

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    SgtFang said: View Post
    The raised "stripes" behind the ears- These were really rough on the original so I rebuilt the ends of them for the MH, but got them too angled. They need to be more squared off.
    I'm having difficulty picturing what you mean by "raised stripes". Can someone explain this or post a photo that illustrates this "rough" aspect that needs squaring off?

    Is this referring to the red raised visor platform?

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    CSMacLaren,
    Take a look at the below pic.
    The bottom of the "raised stripe" should be pretty much parallel with the bottom of the helmet, instead of angled upward like with his current helmet.



    Hope that helps.

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Thanks. I have a SgtFang on order, so correcting this raised stripe and the squaring of the cheeks are easy for me to do (that it until Sarge releases his next-gen tweaked helmet).

    But don't you think that the stripe's angle is harmonious with the ridge of that ear piece?

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    superjedi said: View Post
    Don't wanna see this thread slip away too soon!
    Sarge, you still planning on doing this?
    Yup! just need to get the last of the board orders and eBay orders out of here. I'm down to 20 TOTAL now- Not much at all.

    I want to get back to zeros orders and start with a clean slate. That way I can cast new stuff as the orders come in, and still have some free time to work on new things as well.

    As far as fiberglass, I really, REALLY hate working with that stuff- it's over half a century old, it's inexact, it stinks, it's sticky, it's itchy, it gets everywhere... there HAS to be a modern material by now that's just or nearly as strong and not such a pain to work with. The new white urethane I tried from BCCProducts.com is pretty amazing except for it's high price. It's strong enough that we literally dropped, kicked and threw a helmet casting from it around the shop 10 - 12 times before it finally cracked. Also, it "acts" like injection molded styrene or hard vinyl- It's hard to explain, but it just doesn't "feel" like any urethane I've ever worked with. Also, it's flexible to a reasonable extent, and it plays nice with dremel tools.

    -Sarge

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Yay Sarge!
    Glad to see you're still considering doing these updates.
    As far as the "Drop Kick Urethane" ( 2007--Superjedi ) goes, if you made helmets with this material, would you be able to give a ballpark estimate of how much of a price increase there would be for a kit?

    I for one would be willing to go higher price-wise for a lightweight material with "better than resin" strength.

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    I think my own interest in FG for the helmet is that its how the original was made. There for accurate. For most a super strong urithaine will be fine. But if the point of this new version is accuracy, why hold back. I think for trooping helmets it dosnt matter what its made from.

    SgtFang said: View Post
    Yup! just need to get the last of the board orders and eBay orders out of here. I'm down to 20 TOTAL now- Not much at all.

    I want to get back to zeros orders and start with a clean slate. That way I can cast new stuff as the orders come in, and still have some free time to work on new things as well.

    As far as fiberglass, I really, REALLY hate working with that stuff- it's over half a century old, it's inexact, it stinks, it's sticky, it's itchy, it gets everywhere... there HAS to be a modern material by now that's just or nearly as strong and not such a pain to work with. The new white urethane I tried from BCCProducts.com is pretty amazing except for it's high price. It's strong enough that we literally dropped, kicked and threw a helmet casting from it around the shop 10 - 12 times before it finally cracked. Also, it "acts" like injection molded styrene or hard vinyl- It's hard to explain, but it just doesn't "feel" like any urethane I've ever worked with. Also, it's flexible to a reasonable extent, and it plays nice with dremel tools.

    -Sarge

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Hmmm...so that new urathane stuf is pretty durable huh??? I gotta say, that the only thing that has kept me back from getting one of these in the past is that they are resin. Just was kinda leary that it wouldn't be durable enough. If that new stuff is as strong as you say, I'm really gonna be tempted to get one. Thanx for the update Sarge,
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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Does this new urethane formulation resist bending?

    It would really suck if you flexed it and then all the paint on the surface cracked because you did.

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    sounds good sarge! i want one! =)

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    CSMacLaren said: View Post
    Does this new urethane formulation resist bending?

    It would really suck if you flexed it and then all the paint on the surface cracked because you did.
    Well... Don't flex it that far!!!

    Seriously, it feels to me like the HARD vinyl Post used to use. A good quick comparison would be like thick model kit styrene.

    -Sarge

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    Re: Accurizing the Mystery Helmet!

    Sarge,
    Sounds really promising!
    Have you by any chance done any paint tests?
    Maybe hit it with some acrylic spray paint on one side and some enamel on the other, just to see if there are any issues with adhesion/bubbling/flaking/spontaneous combustion, etc.

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