The. Worst. Movie. Ever. Made. - SPOILERS

I havent seen it, but having watched the IJ filmes lately, I think that, and please dont take this wrong, most peoples appreciation of the films are heavily rooted in nastalgia.

Frankly, I can objectively say when I watch most of the old films I love so much, they dont hold up all that well. I LOVED indy in the day, I cant really stay awake for them now.

I havent seen the movie yet, and ill take your word its a let down. The worst movie ever made, im thinking is a little bit of an exageration base heavily on your dissapointment on what it 'could have been'. We have to remember that these arent _our_ creations. Unfortunately.

I think that we have to remember that our imaginations are always better than movies. Thats why I am always so dissapointed when I try to explain books to my friends that refuse to read saying 'they will wait for the movie'. The movies just cant compare to what the last 20 years of your imagination has created in its 'coming soon minds eye'.

I mean, whens the last time you imagined something happening, and then instantly reprimanded yourself and said 'That was some of the worst effects I have ever imagined, it just ruined my daydream'.


Im sorry you didnt like it. and I expect it to be worse for wear to me because of your input, but please try to remember, that anything you put on a pedastal, is bound to come tumbling down

I think what you say about nostalgia, Stormrider, is relative. I popped Raiders of the Lost Ark, and then Last Crusade (not a big fan of Temple of Doom), into my old vid player last week and was pleased to find that they had every bit the same effect on me they always did. I think the original Raiders movie was pure movie-making genius. There is a reason Harrison Ford said he would be happy to play the part of Indy again, but not that of Han. Indy had depth of character. Certainly, when I look at most of the garbage that has barely hobbled its way out of Hollywood over the years, Raiders of the Lost Ark still stands tall. I really don't know what to expect from Indy 4. I will go see it, for sure, but part of me is kinda expecting that it may suffer from some of the same problems as the SW prequil movies.

Whew, heavy OSK. Gonna see it this weekend. Hearing a mix a diffirent reactions over the last 12 hours.

As a big Indy fan who loved the original three (yes, even TOD!!) I'll be waiting until this comes out on DVD to see. I haven't been too thrilled with what I've seen about this movie so far and the fact that Shia LeBoeuf is in it is really a disappointment for me. I rarely, if ever, head out to the theater to see movies, and unfortunately Indy 4 hasn't made a big enough impression on me to do so.

I enjoyed it quite a bit. Way better than TOD and about on the level with TLC. If you honestly thought KOTCS was the worst movie ever made, then I seriously, seriously question your taste in movies. No matter how bad you thought KOTCS was, it is not even close to the worst movie ever made. Seriously...not even close.

Wow. . . lots of differing opinions indeed. I saw it earlier today and really enjoyed it. It was great to see Indy on the big screen again. Lots of action, little humorous moments that weren't overdone. I'm sure I'll go see it again.

I think as adults, especially ones who are into hobbies like making prop replicas, we tend to be much more critical of what is projected on that big screen. Raiders came out in 1981 and I was 13. As great as it is, I don't think I would have had the same reaction if I had seen it as a grown up. Granted, Kingdom is dealing with established characters, but it takes into consideration all the time that has passed since Last Crusade. Indy has a lot more years/miles under his belt and that seems to have been worked into the story.
I dunno, does that make sense?

I think the prequals were great, however I agree the Originals are still the best. I haven't seen Indy 4 yet. I think it's starting to be the day and age where "Good" movies aren't being made as much, anymore.

@Obi Sean Kenobi

Personally, I am not really a fan of George Lucas in the slightest. Outside of his 3 big hits (involvement in Indy, SW 4-6, and American Graffitti) he is not that good at what he does. Even episodes 1-3 of starwars were too bad. This is a guy who can be called a three hit wonder and nothing more.

On a side note... those were 3 crazy awesome hits

It can't be worse than Catwoman!!!!!!! THAT was the worst movie ever made.

Well I saw this one today and I was also really, really let down with this peice of garbage. Very little of the film got me excited. I will say I liked seeing Ford in the costume and in character and he did a good job. Other then that I could have written this whole film off.

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Ok then ending was terrible. I really hated the stupid alien non-sense. This is the 2nd movie Speilberg has made that started out ok and ended badly with aliens (A.I was the other one). I don't care if they called them something else in the movie but they had a 50s style flying saucer and looked like the steriotypical aliens you see.

Also the stupid CGI was terrible, the monkeys...man the monkeys followed by that stupid Tarzan scene. The ants were straight out of the Mummy movies, and don't get me wrong I actually like the Mummy movies but for different reasons then I liked Indy.

And last and maybe this is just me but the Russians just aren't as 'Bad" bad guys as the Nazis were. I know It's pretty hard to top Nazis but it's not like they were killing jews in the old movies they were just bad guys the Russians just well seem not nice.
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So all in all I wasn't really happy with it, it felt more like a Mummy movie staring Indy then an Indy movie. I just wish they wouldn't have made this one and just left it with the originals.

I am also hopeing that the other movie I am looking forward to this summer isn't going to let me down like this one did...The Dark Knight.

I own Catwoman!

We're going to see I4 in a couple of hours. I've heard mixed stuff also. Everything from kicks all amounts of butt, and then another friend telling that one that he is smoking crack and it sucks

lol , but I do enjoy ****** movies on occasion too, just for their crappiness. I bought a 1.00 movie at Walmart for the giggles of watching it with friends. It was sooo bad. Called Dragon something or other. Filmed entirely in the woods, with poor poor british actors they probably duped into thinking it would be their big breakout role, flew them to the states, and filmed this p.o.c. rofl.

it even has a myspace page for the movie. man, i have to look the title up when I get home from work!

Oh worst movie ever (that wasn't straight to DVD) Soul Survivors The killer Cut. Nothing beats that one in the aweful world. If you haven't seen it please go out and rent it, it will make you like every other movie you ever see so much better, plus give you a good base to go off of.

Silly me, I assumed this thread was going to be about Catwoman, Maximum Overdrive, or maybe Glitter....

Hmm, suddenly have an urge to break out my copy of Plan 9.

Oh man...don't be talkin smack about Maximum Overdrive!!! =D

Guys it could have been a lot worse.

Three words...Jar Jar Binks.

Two words worse than that: Kate Capshaw.

Starship Troopers 2 is bottom of the barrel by which all other junk films are to be judged by... come on... everyone knows this! So does IJ4 get 1, 2, or 3 SST2 bug claws?

Worst movie ever... ? I'm gonna catch heck for this, but my vote would be 2001: A Space Odyssey. No, really! C'mon! The most exciting thing in the movie was "... stop .... Dave........ I'm ........... a...fraiiiiiidd ........ Daaaaaaave".

Snooooooooooorrrrrrreee!!!!!!!!!!!! The whole movie was nothing but slow-motion boredom. At least if Indy 4 doesn't live up to the original movies it should at least be good for some action... a few lines that go faster than ".... stop........ Dave..........."

I just came home from seeing it, and I really enjoyed it So no, its not the worst movie ever! That.... would be The Hulk, and the Fantastic 4 movies.

I'm a big fan of Indiana Jones but haven't seen the new one yet, so I am trying to not read any of the spoilers in here..!

I just wanted to say that the worst movie I have ever seen is "The Rise and Fall of Idi Amin" (I have it on DVD..!). Avertised as "Head-in-fridge-tastic", I just had to have it. It's quite bad, you can even see the film going off the reel.

Originally Posted by Flettch

"in-fridge-tastic"

Anyone who saw the movie got that?

Originally Posted by Foxbatkllr

Two words worse than that: Kate Capshaw.

rofl maybe i should sleep with speilberg so i can be in a movie too.

Originally Posted by Skjoldhammar

Anyone who saw the movie got that?

They got their heads in the fridge for sure

Batman and Robin--Ick.

i have heard that this movie is great... and that it is terrible. obviously it wont be raiders of the lost ark... but i will watch it so i can form my own opinion since everyone is split.

I just saw it, and really liked it!

A worthy installment, but still a little too much of an homage to the previous three films.

Overall, it was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it!

Hardly the worst movie ever made. Far from it actually!

That title goes to "Seed of Chucky"

I think the origional post hit a chord. Most of todays movies treat Everyone like they have ADHD and cannot pay attention unless things ar breaking bashing and jumping around constantly. Without those slower poetic scenes in Indy and Star wars the action itself is pointless and unappreiciable. CGI I am not impressed with it seems to lack the depth of a real environment or the expression ( most of the time). a moie should have poetic moments and have the double crecendo movement to balance the scenes. just my 2 cents and uhmm.....cough ... cough keeper of souls.

I'll put in a vote for Epic Movie as one of the very worst ever made.

(and don't be talkin no smack about Maximum Overdrive...how I would love to have a semi with a Green Goblin face on the front!)

I'll admit that when I walked out of the Theater today I was highly disappointed. What a truly bogus concept for an INDIANA JONES MOVIE!

Lets see logical procession...Find the Lost Ark, Find the Sankara (sp?) stones, Find the Holy Grail, Find "Aliens"? Are you serious? For a while I was hoping the Predator might show up. Going with the earlier comment, yes the Tarzan moment was horrible and had I not yet finished my popcorn I might have walked out then (who am I kidding... I'm just cheap I've never walked out of a movie that I can remember off hand)

I could have done completely without Shia Lebouf, Shayla Lepoof, Shaquila O'Neila whatever his name is. Totally not the right element for this movie.

Also going with earlier comments...I was walking back to my car and found myself thinking that Spielberg and Lucas have lost something over the years. I mean I really do appreciate them wanting to continue the stories and doing what they do, but aliens in Indiana Jones and the midichlorians just about say enough.

There were hardly any moments in it that "felt" like an Indiana Jones Movie.

I guess the only good moments in it for me were seeing Harrison Ford in the Indy gear again, A quick glimpse of the Ark, and hmmmnn...Well I'll have to think a little more about what else.

I really hate to bash like this on a movie that has one of my childhood idols, but there really needed to be a lot more oversight on this. I just wish that the series hadn't gone out like this.

I guess the one good thing that came out of this is that Temple of Doom is no longer my least favorite of the series.

Alright... Just got back... 3 SST2 bug legs... for sure. Sucktastic. Worst movie ever? No. It had Harrison in it, so it can't be. But absolutely TERRIBLE! Here is my question for those of you that liked it; if Indiana Jones, an icon we all love, wasn't in this movie and was replaced by someone else, would you have still liked it? We all love Indy. We all want to see Indy. But are we willing to give a horrible movie a pass just for one final glimpse of our hero? This had so many "Phantom Menace" faux pas moments I couldn't even begin to count them. I can't believe we made it through without a fart or poop joke. It is sad that I don't say that in jest or with sarcasm, but in all seriousness. The level this movie was written to pander to really should have had at least one good fart joke. Maybe they could have had a father/son fart contest and then the crazy guy could say he won cause he pooped his pants! Think that idea is absurd? No more so than the junk we were asked to swallow.

To me, Indiana Jones, the character, has always been fairly well based in reality. Sure we have been asked to suspend our belief in the capabilities of one man throughout the course of the trilogy, (the ridiculous raft scene from ToD comes to mind), but there is suspesion of belief and then there is surviving a nuclear blast a ground zero, being hurtled for hundreds of yard in a fridge, swinging through jungle like Chewbacca on Endor (at least he kinda looks like a monkey) and so many absolutely absurd life and death escapes stacked on top of one another that even the most ardent fan must take pause. This wasn't an adventure movie. This wasn't Indiana Jones. This was a cartoon where there was never any real sense of life and death danger. How many of YOUR mothers would give you instructions on proper foot placement while you fought for your life against a crazed Russian who is sword fighting with you between two moving vehicles that are hurtling through uneven terrain at speeds one wouldn't feel safe driving at on the highway? Way to heighten the suspense there... Just pathetic.

Of recent times:

Transformers (what a dose of ****)

King Kong (seriously, Peter Jackson has way too much time on his hands)

Looking forward to seeing just how bad this movie is or isn't

As much as i hate to say this, nearly everything listed above was much the cause of my sleepless night. I don't usually walk out of a movie confused, much less feel betrayed by someone i owe much of my childhood happiness too. I remember thinking i felt very uneasy about the trailer with it's very second rate CGI work, but talked myself out of the doubt, having seen Iron man the fortnight before. ILM was heavily involved in that (according to the credits) and that CGI was some of the best i have ever seen, so what did i have to worry about right?

I wish now that i hadn't gone and seen this, i really do. Initially i missed the Nazis, then Indy survived seeing a mushroom cloud at point blank range. About the time Indy was given a happy ending with a bristly looking broom in the shower and the Janitor from Scrubs questioning his loyalties is where i sank into my seat. Marlin Brando wannabe turned up with an angry attitude, and the rest is pretty much a blur.

I actually know paritally what is was like the the original SW fans to grow up, wait 20 years for a new one, then pretty much pay to be kicked in the nuts by the great bearded one. What happened to him over the last 20 years that made him lose that unique touch that left a perminant mark on film making forever after? I don't remember the last time it actually hurt to watch a movie like that. Some of my earliest memories are of watching raiders on the tv, wearing a ratty old acoubra and screaming at everyone to not talk through "indiana man"


I hope this franchise is not continued and is left to die quietly in the shade.

I think what is most interesting is to see what some say is "the worst movie". In some cases I agree that it could be in the running, while in others I really don't see where a person is coming from. I think there also may be an element of "fresh in the mind" that influences our choice of what movie to vote as worst. For instance, upon further reflection - although I really do deeply dislike 2001: A Space Oddyssey - I think the absolute worst movie I have ever seen was the follow-up to Rocky Horror, Shock Treatment. I *might* actually sit through some of 2001 again - if I'm really bored - but I would clamber through a stone wall with nothing but my fingernails and teeth to get away from Shock Treatment.

Bobamatt - I couldn't agree more with your comment that aliens are no less believeable than "the power of god" shooting out of the ark, or the shankara stones doing stuff, 700 year old knight, etc. There's stuff going on in the original Indy movies that is pretty out there.

Originally Posted by Gypsyboy

Bobamatt - I couldn't agree more with your comment that aliens are no less believeable than "the power of god" shooting out of the ark, or the shankara stones doing stuff, 700 year old knight, etc. There's stuff going on in the original Indy movies that is pretty out there.

Thank you.

Just keep that in mind when you see the movie.

Originally Posted by bobamatt

If you can suspend belief for The Ark of the Covenant, ghosts, melting faces, The Holy Grail, 700 year old knights, Sankara stones, hypnotism, and still beating hearts, I ask you, are Extra Terrestrials less plausible?

Right there. That's what I initially thought while leaving at the credits, while still grounded in reality, those things are pretty far out there. But the aliens? That's a little too far out.

Not to me. Everyone is different and believes different things.

Maybe that's why you didn't like it.

I still liked it, but the theme of the other movies were mostly based on religions more widely accepted than believing aliens were your gods. That's what got to me. It wasn't surprising, but just wayyyy more far-fetched than the other Indy's. But the biggest thing that bugged me, was really the absence of Nazis. Makes sense I guess since it's set after WWII.

But hey, would a lead lined fridge really protect you from an A-bomb? Nahhhh, maybe protect from radiation, but it still would've been incinerated in the initial blast, right?

Are aliens really more unbelieveable than the "power of the Ark"? I'm not saying I believe in little green men from mars, but lightning bots shooting out of a box and melting people's faces? And drinking some water from an old cup giving a person "eternal life"? Reaching in and pulling a person's heart from his chest, and have him still alive to watch what you do with it?

Oh, and the comments people have made about "no Nazis"... well, it does take place after the end of the Third Reich, in keeping with the age difference between original movies Indy and new movie Indy. It would be silly to either stick some Nazis in there for old-time sake, or just ignore the obvious age difference and pretend it was still 20 or so years earlier. I think that should have been a given.

The Indy movies have never been grounded in fact. They only take existing stories of artefacts and elaborate on them, exaggerating the fanciful aspect they have often come to be associated with. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but so far the crystal skulls are the only artefacts that are known to actually exist. The Ark, the Shankara Stones, the Grail.... none of these things have actually been found. They, so far, only exist in myth. The skulls, on the other hand, have been found and exist in museums. Chances are they are not pre-columbian in construction - or have any kind of metaphysical properties - but at least they do exist.

So Brak's, you think they jumped the shark in this one?

I totally agree with BobaMatt on this...

And seriously, this movie has as much "mythological fact" as any of the others.

there ARE big flesh eating ants that can strip a large animal in a matter of hours in some jungles in the world...
There are theories of egyptians and mayans being taught by "aliens" or some other being that is no longer here...
There are skulls found buried in the world.. Gypsy is correct...

The parts that got me were the fridge and the monkies. The rest of the movie was to me , better than Temple of Doom any day. Screw Kate... blech. and as a girl.. made props to Marion Ravenwood. she looks as pretty as ever.

Iron Man was a better movie, sure.. but this was fun. I loved Indy telling Mutt about his Young Indiana Jones adventure with Pancho... and even though it should have been named Indiana Graffiti and the Close Encounters Stargate... I'll buy it when it comes out.

Originally Posted by bobamatt

Also, I agree that the CGI was questionable.

For the most part, it was. But I'll say I was impressed with the water. Specifically the part where they were running out of the ruins as it was flooding. Right before they got to the dead end that was just a well or tunnel going straight up. When they were right on the bridge as it was being crushed by the gears, while flooding. That's the only part that stood out to me.

shoot people...you guys are forgetting


BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS!!!


That my friends....is worse than Indy.

Just wondering...getting away from the whole debate issue.

Did anybody notice any brief Star Wars references? Such as the Club Obi-Wan in ToD?

The only thing I really noticed was the token "I've got a bad feeling about this," quote from Indy.























Oh...and it having aliens I guess.

Originally Posted by drokkul

The only thing I really noticed was the token "I've got a bad feeling about this," quote from Indy.

I can't believe I missed that. During what scene?

It was close to the end, if I remember correctly, right after they were in the chamber with the crystal skeletons. I know I just saw it yesterday, but after a certain point I wasn't really paying that much attention anymore.

Well... I saw this one with Brak's last night and I wanted to cry afterwards I went in, not with high expectations, but hoping for a good movie that could hold it's own with the other 3. I didn't expect it to be better, but at least hoped it wouldn't suck. This, while not the worst movie ever by any means, was truly awful. Brak's gave me a look right after the opening shot of the prairie dog like "here we go" but I wasn't really bothered by the CGI...the first time. But honestly, where it started to go downhill was in the warehouse, after probably the best moment in the movie- Indy donning his hat and the theme music starting. It was the one liners and dialogue in the warehouse that just felt...wrong. Harrison really felt un Indy like, to me, in delivering the terrible lines he was given. I was already disappointed but tried to not let it affect the rest of the movie and hoped it got better and that he would feel more like Indy (which he was). But after the fridge incident, I honestly was ready to walk out and if Brak's hadn't been taking me out on a date, I would have left. But I stayed, hoping it would get better. It had a couple "Indy" moments- like when he was in the grave yard crawling on that tilty stone thing- the look in his eyes was true Indy. And the scene in the library where he is crashing, sliding across the ground and the student asks him a question, pretty funny. But a few minute moments do not make a movie. The story line was very weak. Aliens, not a problem. But there was such poor development of who and what they were, why the skull was important, why the Russians were after it, why they kept keeping Indy alive, what the black hair chick's deal was. She seemed to have this hate for Indy, but you have no idea why. It was all just really poorly developed. This movie seemed to be more focused on the action than on the story and that is where it really failed. It just went from one chase, to the next, to the next to the next to the point that you never felt there was any danger. You never were on the edge of your seat going "will they make it?" The one liners just seemed very forced and as Brak's described, it was like you knew what was going to be said and they would pause, just for dramatic effect until Indy gave his one liner, and then the movie would move back on. The other thing was there was no real mystery, you never saw Indy ever struggle to solve any of the "riddles". And he always seemed way too eager to help the Russians along. The final things that sealed the deal were the ridiculous sword fight on moving vehicles which then ended with the kid flying through the jungle like Tarzan, followed by all his new found monkey friends that had a hate for Russians, followed by not one, not two, but three falls down waterfalls in which NO ONE gets hurt or killed. By the end, I just couldn't wait for it to be over so Brak's and I could talk about it on the drive home. Also, by the end. when he tries to use the whip to help the "triple agent" I realized, he hardly used the whip at all this movie :/ It's funny, Brak's and I complained that they just released the orignal 3 movies right before this one- obviously so you can buy them now why you are Indy hungry and then AGAIN when the 4th one comes out. Now, I'm glad they did that cause we will be buying the original three...and that is all. For me, this series ended with Indy riding off into the sunset with his Dad and Marcus and this last movie was just a bad dream that I wish hadn't been made and I am sorry I saw Very very saddened by this.

Can I just chime in

GO SEE IRON MAN

thank you and goodnight

What an awful movie. I liked parts of it (the motorcycle chase in the beginning), but everything in the movie went too far. I was getting over the "Indy is no longer Indy" thing and just when I would start to enjoy myself again, there would be a gopher, or a refrigerator, a monkey, a terrible CGI element which destroyed a good action scene etc.
Terrible acting all around.
I never thought I'd say this but the Temple of Doom is no longer my least favorite Indy movie...

Well worst movie ever, a tough one to hit.


I have not seen Indy 4 yet, plan to see it tonight after I go to Ruth's Criss for my monthly hundred dollar steak night (not really a hundred dollar steak but I can easily bust a hundred dollar plate there, expensive but worth every penny for a treat) but I would have to think long and hard on what is the worst movie I have ever seen....


I have seen some choices in this thread for worst Movie that I loved. But again we all have differing opinions. For me it would have to be....ouch this one is tough for me cause I have seen some bad ones, but for me the craptastic award goes to two movies tied


Mirror Mask
Elektra



Interesting Idea, but I could not even make it halfway through that artsy piece of osik that was Mirror Mask, and Elektra was hands down horrid.


Alexis
*smiles*

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Jeesh guys... some of us can't get out on the first night!

I'm adding a Spoilers to the title.

I saw this at midnight with Batninja and we had a blast. But I'm pretty sure it was more the company and event than it was the film.

I have to say George's prequel like fingerprints were all over this one. Some of the dialog rivaled AOTC, which if there's any question, is NOT a compliment. If you let this movie stand on it's own and don't call it Indy, sure it beats the snot out of SST2.

Shia isn't near as bad an actor as this film made him appear. I've seem him in at least two other films (I love Transformers) where he was 100 times the actor he was in this one. Hayden Christensen got the same thing. In AOTC, I was seriously disturbed by what I thought were his abilities. Then I saw him in Life as a House and ROTS. Those were better roles, with better dialog and I enjoyed his performance so much more.

Just call this film Henry Jones, Jr. instead of Indiana and you might be ok.

I'm really enjoying the reviews everyone has been giving. I've not seen it yet, but in my internet research of this film some of the dislikes mentioned above mirror what I have felt just based on what I DO know. I was actually kind of intrigued on the whole "Indy is older and takes on the Russians" deal. Nothing beats those bad-arsed Nazi's, but I was looking forward to seeing how the conflict with the Russians would play out. I'm almost at the point now where I WANT to see it in the theater just to see how bad it might really be.

Saw Indy4 yesterday.... you know whats sad... I went into the movie not expecting much and it still sucked

Originally Posted by Predatormv

I am also hopeing that the other movie I am looking forward to this summer isn't going to let me down like this one did...The Dark Knight.

Don't speak such blasphemous things! TDK WILL OWN!

I went in not being a huge fan of Indiana Jones and really enjoyed the movie. I took it for what it was and ended up liking it a lot. I didn't have any nostalgic ties to the originals to make me hate this one. Would probably watch it again!

Originally Posted by MandoMan

Don't speak such blasphemous things! TDK WILL OWN!

Have no fear TDK will rock big time

I thought it was just ok. Somewhat entertaining for the nostalgia aspect, but overall just ok. Hardly, the worst movie every made and hardly the worst Indy of the series. Thought the whole "alien" plot just didn't fit right with the series and although I loved the time it was set in and the Russian's fit in perfect for that, you can't beat Nazi's as villains. I think Shia's a pretty decent young actor and had some good moments with Ford, but I just didn't buy him as a 50's greaser type.

I thought the overuse of CGI was what really took me out of the film. Everyone seemed to be on wires and green screen so I was never really sucked into the action sequences. They also came off as more of action for action sake instead of happening to move the story along like the previous films. Indy's investigations to get from point A to B also seemed pretty by the numbers too.

It's hardly a film to avoid, but it doesn't really warrant repeat viewings at ten bucks a pop. For me Iron Man is definately the best film so far this summer, but we still have Hellboy II and of course Bats.

As for the worst film ever made, it's a tie: Van Helsing and The 5th Element.

I'm a fan of Indy, and I really enjoyed this movie. I think it heavily outranks the temple of doom, too. Being a much more hater of the Communists, I really love seeing them against Indy this time.

Everyone has different opinions I guess.

Hmm... I wonder what younger people who didn't see the original Indy movies generally thought of it?

i went with my guitarist and her 7 friends who are all in high school, adn NONe of them has seen the original 3.

they loved it. im seeing to them seeing raiders and crusade, as temple doesnt count.

hellboy wont rank higher than glitter....ever///// the fisrst one was worse than narnia. snooze fest galore.

anyway./... batman will rock

Originally Posted by bobamatt

Raiders was it, man. Pure awesome celluloid.

The other films (and I'm not bashing them, I love them! Yes, even ToD.) were spin-offs with the same character. Hence the title "Indiana Jones and the..."

Raiders was just "Raiders of the Lost Ark."

If you can suspend belief for The Ark of the Covenant, ghosts, melting faces, The Holy Grail, 700 year old knights, Sankara stones, hypnotism, and still beating hearts, I ask you, are Extra Terrestrials less plausible?


I think the thing I liked most about Indy 4 was that it seemed like a commentary on the 1950's.

Still haven't seen the movie so desperately trying not to read what you guys write about the plot..!!

I just wanted to chime in that I totally agree with you that Raiders of the Lost Ark is definitely "pure awesome celluloid". I just love the scene where Indy just shoots that scimitar-swinging thug, makes me chuckle every time.. not to mention the whole opening sequence, what a blast. The Hovitos, Belloq, Satipo's unfortunate ending.. no wonder I have a cast of the golden idol of fertility in my bookshelf! 8)

I also agree with your "suspending your belief" argument - I was an avid reader of the Indiana Jones comics and there was alot of weird tales in there that I really liked, especially that one with the ley-lines and the russian cossacks.. and I was really looking forward to seeing Indy in the 50's. I certainly didn't expect it to be concerning Aliens (!?!) but rather thought it would be cool to have Indy in a cold war setting. So even though I haven't seen the movie, I have still been surprised since it does NOT concern the soviets and the cold war. Or does it..? I'll have to wait and see the movie.. sorry for my ramblings..

Worst movie ever, any thing make by Michael Moore. Or manybe that deal Al Gore did.




Since when was Indy a secret agent? I dont read the books so I was a little loss when I was brought up.

Flettch, let me put it this way, "filth muck". Ball bearings, everything is ball bearings.


CGI has had it's day folks, enough is enough

My friends dug it. Not really genre types, just regular folks. They enjoyed it. I was lost after the A-Bomb. I felt every rib in my body crack when that fridge hit the ground. Thought Mutt was cool, but I was rebel once myself, so I am partial to my breed

I dont agree with you man I loved the movie, yeah it was a little far fetched but I thought it was great. The only thing I didnt like that there was no nazies, but its historically accurate so its not a big deal.

I liked it....my daughter loved it....

come on...go back and watch Temple and Crusade...give me a break on those films....

can I guy really rip out a persons heart??...and the guy stays alive

Oh...and the ghostly knight that is 1000 years old...

this movie fit right in with every other INDY movie

I loved it!!!!!

Well... I just gave my opinion with my wallet. I just bought the Indy TRILOGY on DVD because a trilogy is all it will ever be for me.

I'll repost what I posted over on the NEG boards...

As for the movie... just back from it.

I give it a giant....


EH.......


Man, I feel like I'm 7 years old and waiting for Christmas... hoping... waiting... begging Santa for a new Millenium Falcon... only to open up my gift and get...

socks.


That being said, it did have plenty of fun INDY moments for me but the stupid moments really, really sucked. Hopefully I'll wake up tomorrow and feel better about it.

ok i saw this tonight and left on a disapointed note. i feel if anything is wrong with this movie is that it just felt rushed. alot of the acting could have been better. they should have had someone different than Shila, he still sucks at his job, This Indy wasnt bad but it wasnt good. there were lots of stuff that looked like they wernt thought out. i just couldnt enjoy it like i do watching the originals.

as for the worst movie ever made... afew titles come to mind that Mystery Science Theater 3000 took care of.

My opinion of this movie is that it is Indy at still doing what he does best. Sure, it's not Raiders or Last Crusade, but it's still a LOT better than TOD. I went into the movie wanting it to be good, but worrying that it may not have that Indy feel to it. However, I was quite surprised that it was a great story, with pretty good characters (the double double agent was kinda stupid). The action was great and the archaeological aspect was still amazing.

Another thing i was happy about was the humor they put in it, not over the top humor, but a few little things to make you smile. I know a lot of people hated the ending, but I liked it, and I loved the movie. Definitely not the worst movie ever made, but a great Indy movie that i will def be seeing in the theater at least one more time.

The best advice for seeing this: DON'T LISTEN TO ANYONE, go into it with an open mind and decide for yourself. don't jump on a bandwagon before seeing it, or you'll be wanting to hate it.

p.s. - Thanks DM for actually loving this one like I did; I feel like we're all alone :P

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

Well... I just gave my opinion with my wallet. I just bought the Indy TRILOGY on DVD because a trilogy is all it will ever be for me.

Quoted for truth, if it ain't broke don't dig it up and paint it a funny colour

Originally Posted by LOPERO

and then there is of course the new "Rambo",which I have not seen.The trailers share enough.

Wut?

You haven't seen "Rambo" and you say it could be the worst movie ever made?

For the record, "Rambo" is as simple as movie a movie could ever get.

and it's totally freekin'

A W E S O M E !

Rambo is INCREDIBLE.....

I wanted to jump up and cheer when he was blowing people away!!!

Braks...glad to see you bought the trilogy

DUDE...watch CRUSADE and then TEMPLE...talk about some cheesy stuff in those movies

I bet a million bucks had this INDY4 come out 3 years after CRUSADE we would have all loved it......

If CRUSADE Was made today all of you would be saying it was the worst movie ever

here is the bottom line.....

for most of us we saw the first 3 INDY's when we were kids and that is why we loved them!!!

now that we are adults it does not have the same affect on us...kinda like the NEW STAR WARS

I can see this thru my on daughter....

She loves the new STAR WARS movies...SHE LOVED INDY 4

when she gets older she will always have a great memories of these movies

as for me...I am just a big kid...

Heck I loved the last HULK movie

I'm going top agree with Darth Miller. Had this been released in the 80/mid 90-s when the first set of scripts were created (yes thats how long they've been screwing with it) people would have loved it.

But time is relative and because we all waited so long we expected more.


It's ok. It's Indiana Jones. of course it's a little bit cheesy.

Think of how B-A ford is, it's gotta be a bit hokey or else the hero would most likely die.

I enjoyed it. I wasnt big on the new cgi but still, I will definitely get it to go with my other indy dvd's

Originally Posted by bobamatt

Wut?

You haven't seen "Rambo" and you say it could be the worst movie ever made?

For the record, "Rambo" is as simple as movie a movie could ever get.

and it's totally freekin'

A W E S O M E !

Guys..... I mean the "new" RAMBO not FIRST BLOOD
"First Blood" is a incredible movie given the fact that if it did not get played on HBO and the other movie channels at the time it would have be dead in the water.If I remember right the studios gave it limited release or did not think it would do well.But after HBO showed it then the "John Rambo" saga began.
Now this new story in the saga "Rambo" I find funny.I have not seen and proably wont because for me the trailers ruin it.I remember the sequel jokes being mentioned of a 70 yr old Rambo by the critics.Well now there is .
On sec thought I might just watch it as to not be someone with a negative POV who wont give it a chance.SO I will remove my statement until I see it.

Originally Posted by LOPERO

Guys..... I mean the "new" RAMBO not FIRST BLOOD
"First Blood" is a incredible movie given the fact that if it did not get played on HBO and the other movie channels at the time it would have be dead in the water.If I remember right the studios gave it limited release or did not think it would do well.But after HBO showed it then the "John Rambo" saga began.
Now this new story in the saga "Rambo" I find funny.I have not seen and proably wont because for me the trailers ruin it.I remember the sequel jokes being mentioned of a 70 yr old Rambo by the critics.Well now there is .
On sec thought I might just watch it as to not be someone with a negative POV who wont give it a chance.SO I will remove my statement until I see it.

That's the one we are talking about too.

The new Rambo film, simply titled "Rambo," is AWESOME

Sorry to derail. I just hate to see someone bash a movie without seeing it.

yes...the NEW RAMBO was awesome....pure RAMBO killing machine....loved it!!!

Originally Posted by DarthMiller

Rambo is INCREDIBLE.....

I wanted to jump up and cheer when he was blowing people away!!!

Couldn't agree more. I went into Rambo about the same way I went into IJ4.... expecting to hate it.... expecting my childhood memories to be trampled... I walked out wanting to beat my chest and wave an American flag. That movie stirred a little bit of patriotism in me I didn't realize was even there any more. I am counting down the days for it to come out on DVD because I am actually buying several copies to send to my dad and some other friends.

Talk about a movie that really exceeded and completely blew away my expectations.

Rambo cause Brak's and I to fight most of the way home from the movie theater I was a bit traumatized after seeing it. I loved the original Rambo movies, but this one seemed wayyyyyyy toooooooo graphic. However, after hearing an interview with Stallone as to why he made it that way, I am willing to overlook it and watch it again with an open mind.


We watched Raiders last night and I'm sorry, but nostalgia has nothing to do with it. That movie is friggen awesome. I don't know what they were thinking with 4 but it isn't even in the same league, period. Raiders to this day has an awesome story line and development, you can FEEL the tense moments. I actually jumped when they were in the well of souls and Marion got caught up in the corpses, and I've seen this movie many times and know what is going to happen. The effects still look great. I seem to be in the minority, but I really liked TOD. I read the book first and it freaked me out and I thought they did an excellent job of making the movie really get the same feel as the book. Usually books are better than movies but I thought they were equal. And Last Crusade is hands down my favorite of the trilogy. I'm looking forward to watching the rest of the "real Indiana Jones movies"

Have to agree with Brak's, Mirax, OSK, etc. in that I was highly disappointed. The film lost right at the beginning with the fridge and failed to come back. Too many quick unrelated events with little to no explanation. Too many "can't suspend reality that much" survival situations. One too many, who, what, and why protecting natives, ants, monkeys etc. One too many, I have seen that chase in Raiders before.
I don't need nor want to pick the movie apart scene by scene. This is not the same caliber or league of Raiders. Brak's is 100% correct, had this not been called "indy" it would die a quick death.

I felt used and dirty after I left the movie theater and wanted to take a shower.

also is it just me or did KotCs seem just alittle bit too... clean?

Originally Posted by BobaFettSlave_1

also is it just me or did KotCs seem just alittle bit too... clean?

Not sure exactly what you mean, but I noticed that we had to even show that the monkey the bad girl throws over the cliff didn't buy the farm, but managed to save itself.... Did anyone even die in this movie past the first 5 minutes?

LOL At least you know it was rhetorical... and wow... good memory!

just got done watching it... and I gotta tell you... In true American Idol fashion... Randy Jackson- "IT WAS JUST ALRIGHT FOR ME" most of the action sequences I needed a lobotomy to appreciate them.... mainly the fridge,waterfall, and the tree cutter scene. at least John Williams sound track was awesome!!!!!