what was the 1st thing you would change about episode 1?

Well that's a techinque I think the sith are just screwed when they face it or try and use it. First maul, then Vader. Ani tried a cool little flip and look where it got him

3 words: Jar Jar Binks....

Originally Posted by tubachris85x

3 words: Jar Jar Binks....

YAHTZEE

George Lucas' script writing !

I liked Jar Jar.

There, I said it.

I wouldn't change anything because it is Lucas' movie, like it or hate it. Fan edits, whether done well or poorly are all abominations.

The pod race. Boy , would I shorten that. It seemed WAY too much like watching nascar with my neighbors Earl and Billy Bob Jr.. Too long maybe it was meant to be a built in intermission

Not one Mandolorian anywhere to be seen, not even on tatoonine, with all the hutts there, there had to be one mando one the job somewhere.

If you listen really hard before the race Jabba says "boogity!!boogity!!!boogity!!


"irony can be pretty ironic sometimes"- Buck Murdock

2 words...
JAKE LLOYD!

I believe that The Phantom Menace was the best of all of the prequels. I never looked in to seeing any fan edits.

Check out this link here. It's from Episode 1. It appears he's wearing Mandalorian armor in the heading picture. and his name just happens to be Rango. I don't think he's in any way related to Jango though.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/rangotel/

Originally Posted by Vasili Zaitsev

Not one Mandolorian anywhere to be seen, not even on tatoonine, with all the hutts there, there had to be one mando one the job somewhere.

Originally Posted by tubachris85x

3 words: Jar Jar Binks....

Mesa thinking yousa hitsa nails on the headsa!

aside from liam neeson and ewan mcgregor i thought most of the acting was just poor. Liam made it credible to me. just what i think though.

Midichlorians, what the #### was that about?

I simply didn't find the prequil trilogy had any real charm like the OT did. Too many special effects, not enough acting. No time for your eyes or brain to rest and think. For instance, ANH had that really cool sequence in the sandcrawler where all you saw was droids and junk, and all you heard were machine noises, yet there was story going on there. The original trilogy - especially ANH - was art. Episodes I, II and III were reasons for special effects. Sure, they added some backstory, but I think they could have been in a more meaningful way. I could write a book on what I didn't like about Eps I, II and III. But, in the end, as someone else here mentioned, it's Lucas' work not mine. If I painted a picture I wouldn't want someone to come along with a brush and start changing stuff. Sure, they don't have to like it, but they also don't have the right to change it.

The trade federation should have instead been the Mandolorian race which also would have made them who the clones and Jedi fought in the clone wars.

Originally Posted by tubachris85x

3 words: Jar Jar Binks....

you and everybody in the world except for my mom, she bloody loves the guy, probably the only character from star wars she actually knows the name of

Also what makes my eyes and ears bleed is the space battle when lil' Ani' shows how horrible of a pilot he was!! "lets try spinning, thats a good trick! whoooooooooaaaa!" R2-D2 was probally saying get me off this ship!!!

"something something something..........dark side!" something something something.......complete!" now that is some good writing!!

Originally Posted by vadr_h8r

Also what makes my eyes and ears bleed is the space battle when lil' Ani' shows how horrible of a pilot he was!! "lets try spinning, thats a good trick! whoooooooooaaaa!" R2-D2 was probally saying get me off this ship!!!

"something something something..........dark side!" something something something.......complete!" now that is some good writing!!

haha so true, i just think that the new tri is just yeah like somebody said to much special effects, the old you could hardly see outside the cock pit when they were flying, that was cool cause when you did it actually looked REALLY good, now it's to much special effects, doesnt look real at all

models on pins flying infront of a greenscreen ftw

CGI has a place in special effects, but it should be used in moderation. The prequil trilogy was like an advertisement for LFL's new CGI department. When Lucas made "Star Wars" (what we now call A New Hope) back in 1976 he was creating a mythology for the modern world. He was also using a lot of the techniques he learned in film school for how to tell a story in more ways than just with words. ANH was like a silent film in structure. Although much of the dialogue was important to the progression of the story, the real momentum was in the way the characters were portrayed and in the way the film looked. The music carried as much of the story as anything else, and that was intentional. The use of light and dark areas, the shape of a room, the colours of costumes and props, the distance the camera was from an actor's face, the fact that everything looked used and worn out, the relationship between the characters.... all these things made the original trilogy great. Look at how many people still love the OT, even though by todays standards the special effects are lacking. Obviously there is something else going on. Whatever that "something else" is, does not appear to be present in the prequil trilogy.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think the entire PT is aweful. I have a copy of episodes I, II and III, and I watch them from time to time. There are things I very much like about them. I thought Ani's mother was the best actor in Ep I, and it's too bad that either she did not have a bigger role or that other actors did not follow her lead. Qui Gon was acted quite well, but I found there was a lot more that could have been done with his character.

I found ep II was less disappointing than ep I, but even as I sit here and type I find it difficult to recall much about it to talk about.

Over all, ep III was the best of the prequil trilogy. There was, I think, a little more character development, and more about what actually happened. However, I was put off by the fact that no matter where you looked at any given second there was always something moving in the background. One could not let the eye rest and just watch the characters. There were always things flying around and stuff - another argument that it was little more than a reason for CGI.

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

I liked Jar Jar.

There, I said it.

Meesa love you muy, muy. Demanded by da gods eet ees.

I personally thought Natalie Portman was the worst actor of the bunch. In every film. Now, it could be that her lines were poorly written.

Theres 'Thats whats wrong with the galaxy, no one helps eachother...' or whatever. And the angel line was something my russian friends in college would use at closing time at the club.

I think the key to the prequils is this.

'It is what it is'. It is in fact, the true vision of starwars. For some reason, all the fans have one version, and the creator has another. You have to just agree to dissagree.

Starwars is my favorite 'theme' or 'subject' but not my favorite 'movie'.

While I loved them as a kid, the fact of the matter is, they were never works of the dramatic arts. What made them so special is the time you spent, being luke, and han in the back yard. Playing with your toys, and speculating 'what ifs'. The let down is the fact that most of our 'what if's' were wrong.

To me starwars is like a relationship that gets better the more you think back on it.

Starwars is great for what it is to me, not necessarily what it is

I have a few ex girlfriends that I seem to remember them in a much better light than what was probably reality too

Originally Posted by Vasili Zaitsev

Not one Mandolorian anywhere to be seen, not even on tatoonine, with all the hutts there, there had to be one mando one the job somewhere.

i agree maybe qui-gon jinn should have had a sizable bounty on his head from sidious
jar-jar binks is brilliant!!

just add a touch of jango

Originally Posted by Gino

The trade federation should have instead been the Mandolorian race which also would have made them who the clones and Jedi fought in the clone wars.

Actually, not a bad idea.

I would have liked it if Ani were older in TPM. Not a child. That way we could have disposed of much of the love story in the first movie.

2nd movie should have detailed the clone wars.

I also would have cast Jim Caviezel as Anakin. Anyone who saw The Count of Monte Cristo knows that he can absolutely play the very young man role (before he goes to prison) and also the 'man' role. Plus, he is a phenomenal actor and would have kicked butt as Ani.

Anyway, my .02

OSK

Originally Posted by vadr_h8r

My question is what one thing would you change if Lucas asked you?

MORE POOP AND FART JOKES! Seriously.... you just Can't have enough of those in a serious film centered around political intrigue and the fate of a way of life. Really think they should have applied the George Lucas method to Apocalypto... that movie seriously lacked in fart jokes...

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

MORE POOP AND FART JOKES! Seriously....

Originally Posted by Stormrider

....

While I loved them as a kid, the fact of the matter is, they were never works of the dramatic arts. ...

I guess it depends on what you consider "dramatic arts", but I would have to say that the original SW movies had a great effect on me. The only other movie that I can say had any real lasting effect on me was Raiders of the Lost Ark, which I know is widely enjoyed by a great number of others as well. Again, not critically acclaimed for its "drama". Clearly there is something else going on. I can't think of a single work of "high drama" that I can say I am a fan of. In fact, I'm hard pressed to think of a good example of "high drama" at all. Oh, I just thought of one - Casablanca. Possibly one of the greatest dramas of all time. And when you think about it, it has a lot in common with movies like Raiders of the Lost Ark.

The only cool things that came out at that film were Qui-Gon and Darth Maul. And Darth Maul got cheated on screen time. Thats my $2 Dollars

The day we stop believing democracy will work is the day we lose it. lets prey that day never comes.- the naboo leaders I SWEAR THEY TALK MORE BACKWARDS THAN YODA!

"something something something..........dark side!" something something something.......complete!" now that is some good writing!!

Originally Posted by Commander Voltaire

The only cool things that came out at that film were Qui-Gon and Darth Maul. And Darth Maul got cheated on screen time. Thats my $2 Dollars

Amen and So Say We All! Qui-Gon is the only Jedi I've ever liked in both the OT and the Prequels. And Maul... well... what can I say... Why did George have him stand there like an idiot?? Puhleeze.... the Sith was kicking butt the whole time... and then he just stands there.... arrggh!!!!

In regards to the screen time, yes, it didnt do Maul any justice. As the death of Maul AND Jango, it came tooo easily compared to their *suggested* abilities. Its a shame..

MORE MAUL for the win!! DING DING DING!!!

Where to start, ahh The gungans and the whole underwater thing, the kid playing ani, battle droids,mediclorians, the theed palace assention guns - all a bunch of ****.

oh dont get me strated Darth Maul was so ripped off his skills where way ahead of Qui gon and Obi wan lets face it he **** near killed Qui Gon in that scene where he does a flip of his bike and he hadnt even raised a sweat to have that fight scene end with him just standing there and being cut in half was all wrong I realise we needed to keep Obi Wan alive but couldnt he have just droped down and escaped way to little screen time in my opion Darth Maul should have been in ep2 as well

all that said I am eternally gratefull George Lucas was brave enough to make 6 Star Wars movies and not just set back on the first 3

any of you guys heard any thing more about the Star Wars television series thats apparently going to be produced

my younger brother thinks the best thing that could happen is jar-jar turning out to be force sensitive

Oh, muy muy, meesa bombad Jedi just like meesa father, okee-day. My gonna usin' meesa lightsaber all over yousa bum now! Hmm? Whatsin dis? Yousa havin' muy muy big-o blaster? Yousa be careful okee -

BOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!

Originally Posted by tubachris85x

3 words: Jar Jar Binks....

I was going to post the exact same thing. But I had a feeling that somebody would beat me to it.

Originally Posted by Rokeim

George Lucas' script writing !

nah i'd save that criticism for episode II

Originally Posted by vadr_h8r

I was watching a fan edit of episode 1 the other day and I couldn't believe how many little things that could have been changed to make it a better movie! My question is what one thing would you change if Lucas asked you? I will give you mine 1st... obi-wan is hanging in the shaft looking up at darth maul, it is just so lame how a trained sith couldn't see someone teleport up and over his head while grabbing his buddies lightsaber, then gets sliced in half! every time I watch it I feel like I just got a lobotomy! just change it to where obi makes something click behind darth maul to make him look the other way, then he could do his jump.. plus it would link that jedi trick together when he did it again on the tractor beam scene to fool the stormtroopers on ep4.

if i were obiwan, i would've just used the force to activate the saber and pull it right through maul from behind.
just my preference, though

Originally Posted by tubachris85x

3 words: Jar Jar Binks....

oh god...i was sort of hoping that during the fight in the Senate room in Ep. III that Jar Jar would just walk in and get crushed by something.

the fact that it didn't happen ruined the movie for me.

Bye-bye Jar-Jar, cut the podrace in half . . for starters, add a little more Maul backstory.

I would have let the Robot Chicken do the script!

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"With great power comes great responsibility"

the script...!, i didnt like jake loyd. YIPPPIEEE!

Jar Jar like him or hate him had his purpose. He was there to bring in the new generation of Star Wars fans... the young kids. Some of his comic relief was slightly amusing and the actual LOOK of the Gungans was pretty interesting IMO. It was a good DESIGN. Their speech on the other hand had an awful lot to be desired.

Boss Nas was even more ridiculous IMO than Jar Jar. His stupid spitting scene... what was the point of that? The stupid two headed announcer from the pod race? WHY?

The biggest problem for me were the Midichlorians ruining the mysticism behind the Force. That was a huge let down and changed how the Force was viewed.... LAME!

Originally Posted by vadr_h8r

what was the 1st thing you would change about episode 1?

Me watching it.

ouch!!! sick burn!!!!!!! :0

"something something something..........dark side!" something something something.......complete!" now that is some good writing!!

story by: George Lucas
screenplay by: someone else

or

produced by: George Lucas
directed by: someone else

I would have liked to have skipped most of TPM - had an in depth clone war - make a longer story out of the betrayal of those fighting to preserve what became the empire - and much more of how the clones became bloody STORMTROOPERS! It was great to se the 'birth' of Vader - so PLEASE show us the birth of troopers :

I like troopers me!

Dave

Midichlorians and Jake Lloyd, here. First, the midichlorians ruining the mystique of the force. Suddenly instead of being able to control the great spiritual force that surrounds us and binds us to the cycles of life and death... you're contaminated with little bloodstream algae which are the ACTUAL controllers of the spiritual force that surrounds us. I like to pretend midichlorians never happened.

Jake Lloyd was a cute kid, but an awful actor. There are some amazing child actors out there, and with George's budget, he should have been able to get one of them. I should extend this complaint to Hayden Christiansen, who I'm sure is a great guy, but cannot convey the depth of tortured emotion that he really absolutely HAD to make convincing to make Anakin's turn to the dark side believable. (but then, the script he had to work with didn't help either)

Jar Jar was lame, and he mortified me the first time I saw Ep 1 in theaters (WHAT this guy is SO DUMB what is he doing in my STAR WARS) but as time passed I could see beyond his big annoying butt and into the creamy layers of badness beneath.

Evrything.

The whole midichlorian thing kinda bugged me. And for the special effects... I have observed over the years that most of the younger generation (I'm 23 mind you so people my age are included) can't handle any real thinking so bright and shiny things have to be put in front of them to be interesting. That's why George makes the big bucks, he tailored it to the younger generation of star wars fans, if I wrote the prequal trilogy, each movie would be about 3 hours long chock full-o-story and old school special effects I'm done on my soapbox now and I'm going to bed soon because it's 5:00 A.M. here and I'm rambling...

The whole thing just smacked of political correctness, unlike the raw edge that the originals had. The world is too PC already and now Star Wars went the same way

Episode III did redeem itself though. Whilst horrible, Vader killing the younglings was what Vader was all about. He was bad to the core and had no emotional morals. That was the very essence of the dark side.

lets just forget Episode I and move on

personally i believe the shortcomings of the original trilogy stem from the fact that george lacked a mentor of his own when he went back to writing and then onto the directors chair. while creating the universe and mythology of star wars he could call upon joseph campbell, one of the worlds top experts of mythology and the psychologies that created myths. sadly campbell died in 1987, and it seems that george hadn't internalized campbells teachings. without that guidance the prequel trilogy suffered greatly.

You know, I actually thought of a 1 line answer.

Dirt. The universe is too clean in the prequils. Its nice and dirty in the OT.

Lucas always said He liked having a used universe.. but if you back in time far enough they have to be new sooner or later... ..god I hate the phantom menace...

When I watched TPM for the 1st time someone asked me If I liked it.. and I said no. but I'm going to keep watching it till I do!

personally i like movies with less talking and more explosions
my dad thinks the movies need more plot less special effects
well everyone is entitled to thier opinion
(even jar-jar binks)

I HATE the bongo scene

that's said

realy, its so stupid.

Ruben

I would start the movie at exactly the same point but, instead of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan have Obi-Wan and Anakin therefor cutting the need for the Pod race, Midichlorians and the Immaculate conception.
Don't get me wrong, I love Qui-Gon and I'm sure his character could have been used elsewhere but it was supposed to be the story of how Anakin turned to the Dark Side not his whole life story.

Originally Posted by dha'kad junn

personally i like movies with less talking and more explosions

<yoda>that is why you fail...</yoda>

I actually like the Prequels. New heroes, new villans, new planets, new battles. I think the big disappointment was from the first generation of fans (I guess I'm a second generation fan) People were expecting it to be the original Star Wars all over again, but it wasn't, it's a different, darker era.
I'd say the only thing I really didn't like from the PT was a lot of the aliens. I like the look of the Gungans, but some of the other CG sentients just looked ridiculously stupid. (though a lot of alien were pretty stupid looking in the Originals)
Hmm, I think Lucas could have made it a bit more obvious that long periods of time are passing in the 2 hours of each movie. That seems to have lead to much confusion.

I'm of the opinion that GL should have got someone else to direct the preq's, its no coincidence that fans of the original trilogy pick ESB as their favourite movie!

And no it's not just because the galaxys coolest bounty hunter is in it! "That was a pre-emptive Shush." I know you were thinking it (cause I was too).

I think the way Drth Maul dies is pretty lame....
It's supouse that Maul bein a great-skilled trick make that jump just to be cutted un a half....

I'll choose for a fight were Qi Gon and Obi Wan together hurt Maul and he (keeping the fight) do the same to Qi Gon.....

But i'll have to say that Lucas had his reasons.....

Originally Posted by PeYoK

But i'll have to say that Lucas had his reasons.....

New villains for each movie = more action figures.

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

New villains for each movie = more action figures.

Hah, never thought of that, but you are right on the money. Get it? Money? They make more... Ok nvm al;sdjkf

But really, the way Maul died in the end was great, that was the only time Maul blinked in the entire movie, but they should have left out the blood spray when he got sliced.

I'd have to say the script. I have seen all of those actors in other movies and they did a great job. The script was poorly written and I would love to have seen the wit, humor and intelligence that was in the original trilogy.

Tim Rose (Ackbar) said in an interview the OT had problems with the animatronic hears for characters du to the cables that went into controlling the facial features. He suggested that the PT should have used the same types of animatronic (updated of course) and use the new CGI for erasing the cables and achieving the wider angles. If only.............

Actually scratch that the one and only thing I would change........RICK MCCALLUM!!!

He is the reason far all things wrong with the prequels

Change 1 and MOST important: Erase or better yet Kill Jar Jar and Boss Nass. The rest of the gungans I have no problem with. Actually the Gungans rule for a very simple fact... They exile the stupid people from their realm, an example I wish would be followed in some cases in the real world.

Change 2: I'd have Maul being trained and deadly actually beat Obi wan who was only barely trained. End it with Obi Wan fleeing and managing to escape, that would have enabled EP II to have a MUCH better sith enemy than Count Dookie who wasn't as much evil as he was a grumpy old man.

Change 3: Take out the whole midichlorian nonsense. It's a mysterious force, everything doesn't have to be freaking explained. The Episode 5 explanation given by Yoda was more than enough.

Change 4. Make pod race shorter, do we REALLY need to see every single lap around the 50 mile course? Watching NASCAR is boring enough. Seeing it with a kid yelling woo hoo and wheee doesn't make it better.

Change 5: I would have found a child who was a bit more closer to Padme's age in order to make the whole "Are you an angel" thing a bit less creepy, I mean it's like Weird Al said " Even though he's just 9 and she's 14"