UPDATED !! List of ripped off by Theothergary (Gary Chaboya) or Fan_made on ebay.

I have some good advice for everyone here I would be very careful with the wording and supposed intent of your posts. All the passing of his address and statements bordering threats are a real danger for yourself. Saying you'll go by his house combined with repeated posting of his personal info can be viewed as harrassment. I know MANY of you have lost $$ and there is no way around it being ripped off sucks but everyone has friends even him and if someone crosses the line and goes and does something stupid to his home he would have no shortage of people to point a finger at. I do not agree with his business practices so dont take this the wrong way I am just bringing the point up. He could be using puppet accounts to continue selling
stuff and following the show as we speak. I know the reality is that most people will never get anything from him and this is just a place to blow off the steam that builds up but just be smart and stay on the right side of the line. Woody


I agree also, however it is not harassment. We are not sending any harassing notes as such. He is a businessman and selling his wares we are entitled to know where his place of business is- his address. No one is talking about going to his house and demanding money or intimidating him into paying what he owes. We simply would like someone to visit him to see why he is not responding to people he did business with and has not fulfilled his end of the deal. I do not wish him any ill will, I/we would only like what is do to us.
 
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There are several people agreeing to go to his house what are they going to do when they get there, ask/demand where the stuff is or ask for the money back of course. It's a very grey area for sure but if you came to my house and I didnt know you and you made demands of me and asked for your $$ back I would call the police and then he (the bad guy in the first place)
would become the good in the eyes of the law at that point. This is the idea I was trying to bring up. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HIS ACTIONS AT ALL. You guys know me as one of the goods guys here. I just dont wanna find out a TDH brother was arrested for beating him up for their money. LOL!
 
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There are several people agreeing to go to his house what are they going to do when they get there, ask/demand where the stuff is or ask for the money back of course. It's a very grey area for sure but if you came to my house and I didnt know you and you made demands of me and asked for your $$ back I would call the police and then he (the bad guy in the first place)
would become the good in the eyes of the law at that point. This is the idea I was trying to bring up. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HIS ACTIONS AT ALL. You guys know me as one of the goods guys here. I just dont wanna find out a TDH brother was arrested for beating him up for their money. LOL!

i'm gonna beat YOU up if i dont get my cape and braids soon...;):p and i am going to use that "snake in your boot" to do it with...wait, that didnt sound right...:lol:lol:
 
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I see no problem with going to his house or place of business. I went to Reinone's house near San Diego in person with a friend and had my friend serve him with small claims paperwork. He came out all huffy-puffy. Come on dude really, we're both big dudes........and cops (he didn't know that). I say ask in person. If he tells you pound sand and get off his property, I'd do it. Trying to collect is not harrassment. If he does call the cops, the answer, (as long as there were no threats or assaults), would be to take it to civil court, at least for the people who live in California. I won my judgment, of course I will see nothing, and Reinone didn't show ( I live 5 hours North of him), but it goes on his credit and might effect future loans or purchases.
 
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I see no problem with going to his house or place of business. I went to Reinone's house near San Diego in person with a friend and had my friend serve him with small claims paperwork. He came out all huffy-puffy. Come on dude really, we're both big dudes........and cops (he didn't know that). I say ask in person. If he tells you pound sand and get off his property, I'd do it. Trying to collect is not harrassment. If he does call the cops, the answer, (as long as there were no threats or assaults), would be to take it to civil court, at least for the people who live in California. I won my judgment, of course I will see nothing, and Reinone didn't show ( I live 5 hours North of him), but it goes on his credit and might effect future loans or purchases.

Right on.

Maybe he forgot how he screwed a few people and hopes we forget we got screwed,,,,but we wont.
 
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Hey guys my friend was also ripped off by this scum....so he would be glad to know something might happen to him
 
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Its amazing how many people are comming out of the woodwork. He really did screw over a lot of people huh.
 
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Hey guys my friend was also ripped off by this scum....so he would be glad to know something might happen to him

I am sorry to hear that...


But that means that we have another friend to fight against Gary Chavoya "THE THIEF"....

We need his name to be added to the list...

I i still say... WE NEED A LAWYER FROM CALIFORNIA !!!!!!!!
 
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You know what... we should tell about how he is stealing money to his family, friends, school and college teachers.... everybody should know what kind of thief he really is....
 
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Yes I was ripped off by this man as well but i knew him as fan made on eBay. The man constantly assured me that my item was on its way only to cut off contact once the time limit to file a claim was up. I called and got a hold of him at first he said i had the wrong number but changed his story once i called him on it. I have filed a claim with http://www.ic3.gov/ Its a consumer fraud site sanctioned by the FBI. You all should go on and file claims there as well. If we all file enough maybe something can get done. Since its a federal crime to steal money through the internet even if its just $100.00 .
 
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Thanks kyvader. That is very important info.... I will file the claim, and i think that all of us should.

Will you be interested in joining the list?


Alfredo
 
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over a hundred dollars is larceny and over 1000 is grand larceny but if i understand it its a federal crime if you use the internet to commit fraud so there is a much stiffer penalty than if it was one on one, with much less money involved to reach that level. Its like committing fraud through the mail. very bad juju
 
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