TDH Insider Ad Update- Ad was declined by LFL-See post 12

How is this about CGI vs. Propmakers? That's a silly thing to say. In all likelihood it's about blatant copyright infringement.
 
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I can understand why it was rejected, however in saying that The 501st and Rebel Legion would most probably have much more luck, due to the nature of the organisation, with the whole charity fundraising foundations to stand on.

Unfortunately TDH is primarily a costume resource reference community, and if we here were to be given that opportunity to go through with the add, many other groups (to name a few that come to mind... Mandalorian Mercs, South Australian Fan Force, Novus Ordo etc...the last few being Australian ones, but there are many more to be sure worldwide) that would love to do the same and all apply to LFL for permissions and im sure they wouldnt be too happy with all the extra mail, and if the clubs/groups/etc were rejected they could cry foul at us for getting 'all the limelight' so to speak... so in fairness we were rejected too..

But that is an idea that could be completely off, although its kind of how my mind thinks sometimes, especially around about this hour of the evening (midnight here). However i do agree on the tiptoeing over the whole infringing of copyright legalities.. could cause a backlash if pursued too much. Id hate to ever find a C&D for TDH, although id doubt that LFL would go to all that length...
 
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I'm sorry but where does this thread say that we were not approved? I read we maybe not accepted but no where did I read we were not accepted.
 
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I for one think this might be all about timing. This comes way to close to the same time that the British courts ruled in favor of LFL for copyright infringement. We, who are in this community understand the distinction between Ainsworth and us, While most at LFL understand that distinction as well, it's the timing of the add in conjuction with the ruling. There are plenty of people who sell items here. Why are we allowed to buy and sell copyright infringed items here while Ainsworth isn't. We know why, most at LFL do, some of LFL lawyers might, but they still need to be able to think like people who may not understand the distinction. Ainsworth and others who have had action taken against them could easily point to our ad and have some sort of legal leg to stand on to claim "why are they allowed but I'm not"

If we don't get some sort of response of something that needs to be changed, I say wait 6 months, change something minor and resubmit it.
 
NEF, you hit the nail on the head. I feel like this could be exactly the reason, and can't really fault LFL if it is. They have to do what they feel is best for the defense of their copyright. While it may be frustrating for us, we would probably do the same things if we were in their shoes.
 
I for one think this might be all about timing. This comes way to close to the same time that the British courts ruled in favor of LFL for copyright infringement. We, who are in this community understand the distinction between Ainsworth and us, While most at LFL understand that distinction as well, it's the timing of the add in conjuction with the ruling. There are plenty of people who sell items here. Why are we allowed to buy and sell copyright infringed items here while Ainsworth isn't. We know why, most at LFL do, some of LFL lawyers might, but they still need to be able to think like people who may not understand the distinction. Ainsworth and others who have had action taken against them could easily point to our ad and have some sort of legal leg to stand on to claim "why are they allowed but I'm not"

If we don't get some sort of response of something that needs to be changed, I say wait 6 months, change something minor and resubmit it.

My thoughts exactly!!!! Still, kind of a bummer.
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Ohhhhhh yeeeeaaahhh.. Thats right.. completely forgot about him actually. Yeah id say that'd do it.. :p

Its funny, everytime i hear of that guy i think of the chef from 'Cant Cook, Wont Cook' Ainsley Harriot.. :p and that Red Dwarf episode he did... but enough of that, back to topic.

Id have to say its a bit of bad timing on our part.. im sure a little later down the line the opportunity may be able to be presented once more, but i suppose that will be a waiting game. Pity, i was hoping to put in for the next chance of being in an add.. :S

I for one think this might be all about timing. This comes way to close to the same time that the British courts ruled in favor of LFL for copyright infringement. We, who are in this community understand the distinction between Ainsworth and us, While most at LFL understand that distinction as well, it's the timing of the add in conjuction with the ruling. There are plenty of people who sell items here. Why are we allowed to buy and sell copyright infringed items here while Ainsworth isn't. We know why, most at LFL do, some of LFL lawyers might, but they still need to be able to think like people who may not understand the distinction. Ainsworth and others who have had action taken against them could easily point to our ad and have some sort of legal leg to stand on to claim "why are they allowed but I'm not"

If we don't get some sort of response of something that needs to be changed, I say wait 6 months, change something minor and resubmit it.
 
Sorry guys..but I'm of the mind that TDH Fett costumes present in the ad probably looked better than the LFL Fett costume they're planning to release. It's my humble opinion that they would prefer us to be consumers of they're new costume line rather than builders of our own.
 
Hay man of war, do you know if the new costume they are gonna release, as it comes, will be '501' approved. Im going to have to cackle if its not:) Wouldnt that be just the most i-mo-ronic case ever:)
 
This is definitely a shame. I didn't see it coming especially after being at the table when Steve said he was optimistic and even gave his reasons behind his optimism. Nonetheless, thanks a whole bunch for continuing to pursue this and the reasoning behind its disapproval.
 
We defintiely haven't given up yet. We are looking into several avenues to see what, if anything, can be done. Lets keep hoping! :)
 
Please, let's make sure that we do not turn this into a bash LFL thread. We exist only by their good graces, which we are thankful for. It is unfortunate that the ad was declined, but hopefully there is something we can do differently. If not, that is their decision and their prerogative. Again, we are thankful that they allow TDH to exist and if we never get to do an ad, it certainly won't be the end of the world or of TDH.
 
Sorry to hear about this, I hope that they don't leave us hanging with no reason behind it, even if you are right on your presumptions.

Nevertheless, I can't wait to see how the ad looks.

G-Fett
 
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All I want to know is if the ad doesn't run, do I still get paid?? :p

Just kidding, I'm TDH's design/branding slave and I know it.

Here's to hoping we gain some understanding not only for this instance, but for future reference as well.
 
NEF, you hit the nail on the head. I feel like this could be exactly the reason, and can't really fault LFL if it is. They have to do what they feel is best for the defense of their copyright. While it may be frustrating for us, we would probably do the same things if we were in their shoes.


I definately don't fault LFL for it, I can see exactly where they are coming from on it. Glad we are on the same page, great minds think alike :lol:! Like I said, 6 months down the line the exact ad just might get approved. But if you've got other avenues to check before waiting it out, definately give that a try!
 
OK, I got the "official" scoop, thanks to Philip Wise and Steve Sansweet. LFL has nothing against this group or the ad. However, due to broader issues (not pertaining to us at all) that unfortunately won't be resolved any time soon, they don't feel it would be in their best interest to allow the ad to run. Lets not speculate or dig into it more than that as LFL has given their reasons and that is that.

While I am disappointed, I respect and support LFL's decision and appreciate 1) them allowing us to exist at all and 2) giving us an answer and not leaving us in limbo. With all of that being said, here is the final ad as we submitted it. The original concept was created by TK409, with heavy modification and final design by Gino. I also want to thank Bubba Fett for helping us get the ad in the first place. He did a lot of behind the scenes work to get adspace for us at a very comtetive rate. Also, thanks to all of those who were featured in the ad as well as all of those who volunteered to be featured in the ad. As I have said before, your continued support of this site is what makes TDH a great place to be.

On a final note, here is the ad as we submitted it. Hope you like it!

tdh_ad_final_layout.jpg
 
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