stormtrooper helmets.. Questions?

a friend and i invested together on a stormtrooper helmet from ebay. won it for $40. now my question is, how do i duplicate it? i built a vacuum forming table, since its a full helmet i have to vacuum form it in sections 1/2 and 1/2 and then glue them. this requires me to either build a special vacuum forming table or cut the helmet in 1/2 which my fiend doesn't want to do. The helmet itself is made out of resin, and is from a mold. so i was wondering is there an easier alternative? also i do NOT want to pay for styrene etc. for forming since the shipping would be crazy expensive.(i live in the middle of nowhere) i was thinking of using old plastic garbage cans to form, or something cheap like that. please if you have any ideas or comments please respond. thanks again slimguy379 heres a size comparison to my hasbro Vader helmet....

Is that seriously a recasted rubies TK?

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If an accusation of recasting is made, the burden of proof falls solely on the accuser. It is not the responsibility of the accused to prove their innocence in any form. The Dented Helmet chooses to believe our members are innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until they can provide proof of their innocence. It is not the job of the administration to determine if an individual has recast, only their job to administer punishment if an accuser provides definitive proof of recasting.


You will note that people on prop forums are going to be a bit sand offish on people who just buy items from ebay and then start to copy them. You might also find that people my not want to sell you anything for fears you are going to just turn around and copy it.

That is actually one of the Early Don Post helmets.
Might be a cast of one but is definitely not an fx.
You can actually get these helmets on ebay for around $10-$20.
Probably cheaper than what it would cost to vacuform them. and with a few mods, can be a decent helmet. Not an accurate helmet but decent. I'll take some pics of mine and show you.
Scott

but id understand, if you have the mask whats the difference between you molding one and using the mask. and yes sorry for my vocabulary. and truly what makes you so sure that that is official Lucas films storm trooper helmet. maybe this is a form of a knock off... you don't know. i do but, you don't. so all in all i believe that's up to the guy i bought this from to tell whether is illegal or not

Whats your ebay name?

Did you not read this thread where you already made these comments on recasting?

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/helmet-mod-28522/

And I would pay close attention to asok's posting in here especially the part about recasting......Here I will re post in case you missed it the first time

RECASTING

Copying or duplicating, any item, with or without modification, without consent from the license holder, original creator, original artist, trademark holder, or copyright holder IS recasting. Deliberately recasting another member’s creation without consent is not supported by this community.

If an accusation of recasting is made, the burden of proof falls solely on the accuser. It is not the responsibility of the accused to prove their innocence in any form. The Dented Helmet chooses to believe our members are innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until they can provide proof of their innocence. It is not the job of the administration to determine if an individual has recast, only their job to administer punishment if an accuser provides definitive proof of recasting.RECASTING

Copying or duplicating, any item, with or without modification, without consent from the license holder, original creator, original artist, trademark holder, or copyright holder IS recasting. Deliberately recasting another member’s creation without consent is not supported by this community.

If an accusation of recasting is made, the burden of proof falls solely on the accuser. It is not the responsibility of the accused to prove their innocence in any form. The Dented Helmet chooses to believe our members are innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until they can provide proof of their innocence. It is not the job of the administration to determine if an individual has recast, only their job to administer punishment if an accuser provides definitive proof of recasting.


You will note that people on prop forums are going to be a bit sand offish on people who just buy items from ebay and then start to copy them. You might also find that people my not want to sell you anything for fears you are going to just turn around and copy it.

welcome to the DNSL

Weather it is licensed or not it is still someone elses "work" and duplicating it weather it is by molding or vacuforming it is still recasting. "Recast" is even one of your tags. (Insert the posts from ASOK and SKYGUNBRO here.)

Hoo boy. Where's my popcorn?

My Drama Sense is tingling! Someone said the Recast word. Anyone else notice it's like candyman or beetleguise? Recast Recast Recast!

Your helmet is puny. This one is not.

hahaha... as you've seen by the warm welcome, you've sort of missed the boat on a couple of things, not the least of which being that's pretty much the worst stormie helmet ever made... why would you even want to get everyone angry with you for recasting it

seriously though... best to just say "sorry i didn't know" and walk away from this thread slowly

I'm still trying to figure out what the heck that gray moldy stuff is on the ear of the helmet? I can see why $40 won it, man. Yeah recasting that and getting nailed for it just isn't worth being blacklisted on pretty much every board.

Yeah... that looks bad. You really don't want another copy of it, in fact, it probably would be cheaper to go back to ebay, and buy another helmet than to make a vacum mold. And it'll look a LOT better.

Originally Posted by mandosoldier

I'm still trying to figure out what the heck that gray moldy stuff is on the ear of the helmet? I can see why $40 won it, man. Yeah recasting that and getting nailed for it just isn't worth being blacklisted on pretty much every board.

It is foam. the one I got had it also. No ear details just foam glued to it.
Scott

Originally Posted by Stark Wars

It is foam. the one I got had it also. No ear details just foam glued to it.
Scott

oh my god, you mean it got worse?! How the hell did this earn a LFL lisence? the DP wasn't bad, but it could be bade usable, I don't see many options for this bucket cept for the burn pile.

actually , the DP was also a steaming pile
No self respecting Trooper would wear one of those today.
but, that's only my opinion.

Originally Posted by Dream Inspired

yes, like skygunbro said, you may want to re-think your approach to this hobby.
the dented helmet and most other star wars prop/costuming communities don't support the practice of recasting and routinely black list people for such behavior. once your name is tarnished you'll find it hard to acquire the best of the best when it comes to props and costumes.

these are mostly fan made products that start with a motivated and talented artist who puts endless hours of love into the article that you hold in your hands...
their hard work and effort needs to be appreciated.

i wanted to post something more, but i think that i covered it in my other post in that other thread.

it is sad however that you got put on the Do Not Sell list over that helmet.
prop makers are serious.
don't steal from them.

ok well,after some reading and reasoning i guess i can see the present issue. so i will wisely take stormtrooperguy's advice and post a reply to say that "I am sorry and obviously wont do it". and yes for all the people who have a post saying how crapy this helmet is i will most definately agree. I guess i will sculpt one out of clay along with a tusken raider helmet. i will hopefully post pics of my progress. i hope that this issue will now become obsolete and we ALL can go on with our lives. i hope to try again with the whole tdh.com thing lol. i think this website is great and that the help on here is priceless, and would not want to kicked off by being "stupid" thanks again slimguy379

Well done sir, well done.

Bravo!

awesome.
i'm glad that you see what we're talking about.
very nice, and good form.

i agree. if you like that helmet, just buy the copies on ebay,

taken into account the molding process, the cost of plastic, and the fact no one will like you anymore, it is cheaper and better form to just buy multiple copies.


if you sculpt your own, different story. make 1000.

if not, don't

If you want to learn more about TK buckets....head over to the FISD
http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/

You can learn a lot about the different kinds of helmets and distinctive characteristics between them to help identify them

Originally Posted by Mattastic13

If you want to learn more about TK buckets....head over to the FISD
http://www.whitearmor.net/forum/

You can learn a lot about the different kinds of helmets and distinctive characteristics between them to help identify them

thanks that site great thanks for the heads up, again much appreciated slimguy379

a decent plot, good conclusion, character development could be better... none the less i give this thread a 8.2 ... i'll inform rottentomatoes.com

Now, the helpful part Once you get your helmet sculpted the way you want it. Make a mold of it. Then pour a couple castings. Cut them into pieces and you wont damage your original.

But your looking at $500 worth of rubber and resin and misc stuff to do that. So the better your original you create, the better your vac'd pieces will be

Remember when sculpting that you will want to sculpt it with a little sharper features than the original, because the vac form will lose some detail depending on your stock, and the quality of your vac'd machine.

Originally Posted by Ion_Cannon_Gunner

a decent plot, good conclusion, character development could be better... none the less i give this thread a 8.2 ... i'll inform rottentomatoes.com

haha,thank you, thank you:thumbup i though my acting was lacking..... im a member of rottentomatoes.com