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    Jan 17, 2008, 3:05 PM - Standardized Fett helmet measurements #1

    As I'm sitting at home with 3 Fett lids on hand, I thought it might be neat to try to start up a sort of standardized measuring system for helmets.

    People are always asking "Is X going to fit me?", "what's the biggest?", "what's the smallest?", etc...

    Between all of us here, we've gotta have every helmet under the sun.

    So what about coming up with a standard set of dimensions to take off of each helmet. Not enough to copy stuff, but to get a basic sense.

    My thought is that we measure the distance from the bottom of one earcap to the bottom of the other, the distance from the back of the helmet to the front, the height of the dome when it's sitting flat on the floor, and the circumference of the outside of the dome, right above the visor line.

    Then we put them all together, perhaps even with pictures of each helmet, and have a really neat, easy to read way for folks to find the right thing.

    I can measure my HS, MS3 and BF helmets tonight (the raffle where I'm giving away the BF helmet is Saturday!), At some point I could get Webchief's MSH2.

    Worth the effort?
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    Jan 17, 2008, 3:10 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #2

    I like the idea. I could measure my MSH1 and ebay mystery whatever it is.
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    Jan 17, 2008, 3:18 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #3

    I have TF & FPH... If it would help the cause?
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    Jan 17, 2008, 3:25 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #4

    Great idea!

    I'll be watching with great interest!

    I'm soon to be in the market for a new lid.
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    Jan 17, 2008, 3:49 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #5

    cool... let's do this!

    since we're from all over, we can measure in our local preferred format and just convert so we have both inches and centimeters.

    for the height. i'm thinking that if you put a construction level on the top, level it, and measure the distance from there to the table it will be most accurate. but it's not like we need to be within the milimeter on this stuff
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    Jan 17, 2008, 3:59 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #6

    Well I hail from Marine design so would to the nearest 00.1mm do?

    *JK* I am, but that sounds like a good idea for standard measuring?
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    Jan 17, 2008, 4:00 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #7

    tk7602 said: View Post
    (the raffle where I'm giving away the BF helmet is Saturday Worth the effort?
    What? are you being serious...
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    Jan 17, 2008, 4:35 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #8

    I have a BobaMaker, let me know if you need me to help in measurements.
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    Jan 17, 2008, 4:38 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #9

    Mojo-Fett said: View Post
    What? are you being serious...
    giving away the helmet is worth the effort. well, it better be!

    i wasn't sure if measuring everything was!
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    Jan 17, 2008, 6:12 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #10

    This sounds like a good idea, but what measurements would be needed? I felt definitely height, and definitely circumference. Any ideas?
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    Jan 17, 2008, 6:26 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #11

    this thread is great. i was actually thinking about something like this today but more like a sticky that was similar to starwarshelmets.com sort of speak, where there are the different makers armor/helmets/gear pictured in one place where you could easily look and compare and contrast with the names of the makers. i know that would be helpful in my struggles to find parts i like.

    sorry for the hijack, but yeah, good idea this thread is. (that sounded very yoda like...)

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    Jan 17, 2008, 6:34 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #12

    You could try the ones TK-409 did long ago:

    http://www.tk409.com/images/fett/hel...asurements.gif

    That's an extremely comprehensive set of measurements, maybe more than this project needs? I think at least the basics of:

    * width/depth of the bottom opening
    * the circumference around the red mandible stripe
    * distance from inside the top to the bottom (hard to do)
    * distance over the top of the dome (triangles) to the back (keyslot)
    * and maybe triangulate the location of the dent

    that might give people a good baseline for how a helmet is going to fit.
    Last edited by Rich D.; Jan 17, 2008 at 6:41 PM.
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    Jan 17, 2008, 10:24 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #13

    Count Dookie said: View Post
    that might give people a good baseline for how a helmet is going to fit.
    that's the whole idea... make some of the mystery go away
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    Jan 17, 2008, 11:26 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #14

    Yeah, that is a good idea. I probably should have read your original post more thoroughly before I retyped most of it.
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    Jan 18, 2008, 3:21 AM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #15

    I like the idea, but just to repeat what was said before, write in both centimeters and inches, we can't all be like the U.K that uses both systems.
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    Jan 18, 2008, 8:06 AM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #16

    In Canada, we pretty much HAVE to use both.. US = inches and Rest of the world = cm

    I could measure my DP96. No problem.

    Now which measures are we gonna need?
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    Jan 18, 2008, 8:16 AM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #17

    I have the big bad mamma jamma I will provide measurements on the MLC 1 just send me a pm on exactly what/where to measure!!
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    Jan 18, 2008, 10:24 AM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #18

    Drake said: View Post
    I like the idea, but just to repeat what was said before, write in both centimeters and inches, we can't all be like the U.K that uses both systems.
    For those who'd want to convert 1 in = 2.54 cm; 1 cm = 0.39 in.
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    Jan 18, 2008, 10:48 AM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #19

    Would it be inappropriate to ask makers to provide some of the data? The reason I ask is that I have bought two buckets from the same maker, one from an older mold and one from a newer, and the differences are significant. This isn't a maker with numbered models, either, as far as I know in my limited experience. I can measure both of the ones I have and provide that data, but it might make more sense coming directly from the guys and gals that make the thing. Or am I off base here?
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    Jan 18, 2008, 10:49 AM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #20

    Please, let's do away with the english system, and have ALL measurements in Metric?

    Having all the measurements in mm will eliminate fractional inches. We can eliminate the 9 13/32", and have 24 mm.


    This is not just for your Boba helmets, we must work together to rid the world of the evil english system. SUPPORT METRIC: It's for our children.

    This has been a public service messsage.








    Please continue the Boba talk...
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    Jan 18, 2008, 12:11 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #21

    clonesix said: View Post
    Please, let's do away with the english system, and have ALL measurements in Metric?
    Geez, I was going to suggest we use an ancient traditional Japanese measuring system (a specific iteration used during the Edo period), but you seem so strongly in favor of metric, I guess we should go with that.

    Seriously though, whoever comes up with measurements in one system, someone else will probably post a conversion of it. I'll start. The circumference of my Sgt Fang mystery is 2.389 shaku. Anybody?
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    Jan 18, 2008, 12:53 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #22

    As an English person may I say I am insulted to the highest degree yeah right
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    Jan 18, 2008, 1:04 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #23

    Let's all use parsecs!!!

    Ok, so 1 parsec = 30856776000000000000 millimeters
    and 1 parsec = 1214833700787401700 inches

    Seriously, people should use whatever system is easier for him and then, we can make a conversion...

    This would be for the Don Post 1996 version :

    * Width/Depth of the bottom opening :
    -Front to back : 240mm/ -Left to right : 235mm/

    * Circumference around the red mandible stripe :
    -Left ear to right ear (front) : 310mm/ -Left ear to right ear (back) : 334mm/

    * Distance from bottom back to top of dome (perpendicular height): 220mm/

    * Distance from bottom front to top of dome (perpendicular height): 260mm/

    * Distance over the top of the dome (under the triangles) to the back ( over the keyslot) : 350mm/

    * Location of the dent :
    Height from bottom of visor : 215@235mm/
    Left/Right - Center of arrows to dent : 40@60mm/
    Front/Back - Front of mandible to dent : 20@40mm/
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    Jan 18, 2008, 1:49 PM - Re: Standardized Fett helmet measurements #24

    Sgt Fang Mystery Helmet dimensions (as measured by TK-409)

    Overall, Dome
    Helmet height: 240 mm
    Circumference without left ear: 724 mm
    The Dent: 25 mm x 25 mm

    Visor
    width at the top: 48 mm
    width at the bottom: 45 mm
    Eye slit height at the left: 7 mm
    Eye slit height at the right: 7 mm
    Eye slit brow to mandible height near the center: 20 mm
    Eye slit width: 272 mm

    Cheeks
    Left cheekbone height: 113 mm
    Left cheekbone width: 115 mm
    Right cheekbone height: 106 mm
    Bottom cheekbones width: 10 mm

    Left cheek height: 82 mm
    Right cheek width: 122 mm
    Right cheek height: 76 mm

    Left tooth height: 142 mm
    Right tooth height: 145 mm

    Borden connector: 9 mm diameter

    Ears
    Left ear width: 43 mm
    Right ear width: 40 mm
    Right ear foot height: 15m

    Brow
    Brow top height: 11 mm
    Temples width: 27 mm
    Left brow height 40 mm
    Right brow height: 36 mm
    Each forehead arrow: 12 mm wide x 6 mm tall
    Height from brow to arrows: 8 mm

    Back
    Left back height: 118 mm
    Center back height: 111 mm
    Right back height: 122 mm
    Key slot section width: 45 mm
    Key slot section height: 101 mm

    RF
    RF stalk: 187 mm
    Rangefinder width: 73 mm
    Rangefinder height: 25 mm
    Rangefinder depth: 37 mm

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