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    Slave I Emergency Landing

    Now no, I don't have any animation or graphics of the Slave I in trouble. But I am a pilot myself. I kinda feel the closest experience I'll ever get to flying Slave I is just by going to work and flying. One of these days I just may fly in armor.

    Anyway, here is what happened. When I got up to altitude, my student tried to pull the throttles back, and the left one would not go back. After about 5 to 10 minutes of troubleshooting, nothing changed ... it was jammed nearly full forward. It's like driving, pushing the gas pedal to the floor, and having it stick there. So the question becomes: how to land a plane with an engine stuck at nearly full power? An experienced pilot doesn't have to think ... the answer is it has to be shutdown before landing, and the landing must be done with 1 engine. This is something I have trained on time and time again, and now I train people for this type of situation. By now, it is almost routine.

    Since I had 2 students on board, one of them in the back seat got a video of the emergency taking place. Since my camera records large file-sized videos, I broke it up into 3 segments. I thought I'd share them in case anybody wants to see what a real emergency landing looks like. (Sorry about the shaking ... there was some significant turbulence.)

    The engine shutdown:
    http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t=535b50f1.flv

    The approach to the runway:
    http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t=0ac8b08f.flv

    The landing. Yeah, I was pretty cheerful when the wheels touched.
    http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t=33ef4a0e.flv

    And before anybody asks, I will answer the question honestly. No ... I was not afraid. I've simulated this situation so many times that it is almost second-nature. However, this was a big 'first' for me. And no, this situation is not common ... it is the first emergency I've ever encountered.


    UPDATE: 6/18 ... What caused it:
    There was a small deformation in the cable itself. As the throttle was moved to and fro during many flights, the deformation in the cable eventually caught itself on the sheath and began to kink up. There are two ways this could have been caused, and one is the more likely one. First, it could be a factory defect ... the cable was nearly brand new. But the more probable reason was it had not been installed correctly. Somebody probably bent the cable by accident ... and once that happened, the bend / deformation to the cable could not be removed. It's similar to bending a paper clip and then trying to get it straight again.
    Last edited by Jimmy BufFETT; 06-18-2008 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Added Cause

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Whoh! Scott I'm sure you didn't but I would have lost about half a stone in a matter of seconds when that happened....

    (opens window due to smell)

    Glad your all safe bruv...

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Wow, you took the whole situation like a pro, calm as can be. Yeah, I think I would've had my own emergency in my pants if I were in there with you :P

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Wow! Glad you were OK, Scott.

    Tell the truth now. . . you were attacked by TIE fighters weren't you??

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Wow Scott,

    first to say I´m happy that you landet save man
    You acted absolutely cool.

    The students can be happy that they have a teacher like you.

    Awesome flight

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Thats what I thought about me

    Quote Originally Posted by sewbacca View Post
    I would've had my own emergency in my pants if I were in there with you :P

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Great piloting skills Scott! I'll fly with you any day.

    Did you ever find out what the problem was with the throttle?

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    A day in the life of Scott hehe
    You are a prof!

    Glad you were OK

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Whoah Scott! Looks like you had an adventure...glad to know you're safe bro.

    Stay safe,

    Tim.

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    That was tense. Notice how everyone onboard broke up in laughter once the plane touched down and all knew it was a good landing. Afraid or not, that was a tense moment, and you could feel that watching the vid. Your student handled things really well too.

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    I already hated flying...NOW...I will NEVER FLY AGAIN!!!!

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    I gotta say it....."You been drinkin' today Captain?" I'm ssssooo happy to hear nothing else happened and you guys landed safe!!!!!

    P.S. - I could see my house from there.

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Naw, it was IG-88. ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by superjedi View Post
    Wow! Glad you were OK, Scott.

    Tell the truth now. . . you were attacked by TIE fighters weren't you??

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Great use of your training Scott.
    Glad to hear you made it through the "whiskey tango" situation unscathed.

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Nice work, thats almost exactly how i did the same thing a few years back... Except i was the 'student' and my co-pilot examiner panicked and tried to take control of the plane..

    Im used to random stuff with flying... especially Cessna 152's and 172's with the nefarious doors falling off :P

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Nice work Scott, I didn't doubt your skills for a second bro. me on the other hand, I would have crapped my pants in a heartbeat

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    WOW that was kind of cool how yall did all that.

    I didnt see any crash trucks out there just an Eng and a water truck; kind of looked like a foam trailer in the way back.

    BTW tell the cam man not to quit his day job

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    I definitley want you as my pilot. That was incredible man!

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    you can be my wingman anytime.

    /cue top gun theme

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    oh yeah? well the other day at work, a server lost one of it's CPU fans mid-day, and we had to hot swap it!

    ...
    ...

    ok, so your job is way more exciting than mine.

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Are they counter rotating blades in that plane?

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    hey scott just wanted to know what type aircraft you wer flying, i am a mechanic for delta and i think people would be surprised how often things happen like this, but hey thats part of your job being the best at what you do. glade that you had fun and i bet ya cant wait for the next beeping red light comes on in the dash!!

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    *exhales sharply*

    Excellent control! Truly a testament to BH nerves of steel.:thumbup

    David.

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    That was a pretty remote airpark. Red fire truck though....I'm thinking either Carefree or Buckeye area. Am I even close?

    Good to have you back safely.

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    Bravo Zulu man. Great Job!!

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Thanks for all of the compliments, everybody ... I truly appreciate it!

    In regards to some of the questions asked, the aircraft is a Piper Seminole (PA44-180.) It has counter rotating props (I know my camera shows the right engine spinning clockwise, but that's how my camera records videos. It is really rotating counter-clockwise.) I can't believe nobody here has figured it out yet. The plane wasn't attacked while airborne. It was sabotaged by somebody on the ground causing this to happen during cruise flight. And there is only 1 person who would do that: Han Solo!

    OK OK OK ... what really happened. Nobody is 100% sure of the exact details yet as it is still too early to determine. But one thing is for certain: the throttle was jammed forward because the throttle cable (which connects the throttle in the cockpit to the throttle value in the engine) got stuck. How that happened remains unknown at this point.

    The airport I landed at is Deer Valley Municipal (KDVT.) It is located about 15 miles north of downtown Phoenix near the I-17 Loop-101 stack. It is by no means remote. The flight academy I work at typically sends over 150 flights out of the airport per day. That combined with another flight school's operations plus additional commercial and corporate operations makes the airport the 18th busiest airport in the nation just behind LaGuardia!

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    why do you need to land with one engine running?

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    holy smokes BufFETT! Glad your all right! You are a true pro! I was in a scary landing situation in my buddy Darryn's twin-engine Aztec (yes, I said Aztec, what a heap) back in 98'. We landed okay (uneventfull flight that is) but since the brakes are on one side, my other buddy Greg, who was in the co-pilot seat, and supposely had taken flight lessons in this plane, wasn't working the brakes (there was 5 of us) We nearly ran off the runway. I couldn't swing worth bantha at the golf course in Monterey cause I still was shakin' an hour later LOL!

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    Good Lord Scott! The title of the thread scared me... Glad you're okay. My second thought was - Hope he wasn't gonna crash anywhere near my house! (Because I live near Scottsdale Airpark - and unfortunately it has happened)

    True Mando piloting there!

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    If this had happened in a movie you would've landed on that highway

    But seriously dude, you've got some mad piloting skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by corvettenck View Post
    why do you need to land with one engine running?
    Because only one engine was functioning properly. The other one's throttle was stuck at full bore and couldn't be fixed in midair. Therefore, the engine couldn't be brought to a speed that would make for a safe landing, and had to be shut down in order to land safely. This is particularly difficult to do, since with only one wing-engine going, the plane has a natural tendency to turn, which must be combated while keeping the plane level and bringing it in for a safe landing.

    And be thankful... one of my buddies was flying his helicopter and lost the Jesus bolt. He survived without injuries, luckily, but he DID have an emergency in his pants when it happened. (For those who don't know, the Jesus nut/bolt/whateveritscalledonthegivenhelicopter holds the blades on. It comes off, the rotors come off, the 'copter falls, and you pray to Jesus. Hence the name)

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    All hail the great Scott

    well done buddy. Just think, you saved peples lives that day

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    I'm glad you're doing good!

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    Scott, you're the man! I would have been flipping out! You've got nerves of steel my friend.

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    I was watching the video and was like "oh that doesn't seem so bad, they don't seem too worried" and then the camera panned over and I saw the prop just sitting still!

    So when you gonna fly up to Pulliam airport and take me up for a spin

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    Re: Slave I Emergency Landing

    After a week, I finally found what the cause of the jammed throttle was. There was a small deformation in the cable itself. As the throttle was moved to and fro during many flights, the deformation in the cable eventually caught itself on the sheath and began to kink up. There are two ways this could have been caused, and one is the more likely one. First, it could be a factory defect ... the cable was nearly brand new. But the more probable reason was it had not been installed correctly. Somebody probably bent the cable by accident ... and once that happened, the bend / deformation to the cable could not be removed. It's similar to bending a paper clip and then trying to get it straight again.

    Nonetheless, The plane is back in service, and I was flying it yesterday with no incident.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamFett View Post
    So when you gonna fly up to Pulliam airport and take me up for a spin
    As soon as it isn't so hot that the plane won't even get off the runway.

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