So, what are everybody's thoughts?
I loved it.
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So, what are everybody's thoughts?
I loved it.
Decent. Nothing mindblowing or incredible (in short, no TDK) but definately worth going to. I had a good time watching it. (Actually, I think I liked it better than the SW prequels, for waht thats worth.) I think I liked wolverine a little bit better than ST though.
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I went nuts man. That movie surpassed my expectations by a long shot! I loved it. To be honest, I really don't like Star Trek... I just could not get into it. This movie tho, was OUTSTANDING. A must see for any sci fi fan
I grew up with Star Trek the TV series and love most of the ST movies. "Star Trek" was very entertaining, an action packed movie, a storyline emphasis in an alternate ST universe, and less on "logistical"/believable flow to keep the fast pace to the movie.
I would have like it more if it had stayed pertinent to the origianl ST time continuum.
Just seen it myself, and have to say not a Star Trek fan ( although I have a soft spot for most Sci fi ). It was a great watch. The detail on the Ships... sorry Wessels... was amazing. So they rewrote some things, that's cool, it worked for me. It just means there will be more like it. And I'll be going to see them too
I saw it Thursday night and I plan on seeing it again at least once. Easily one of my top five favorite movies of all time.
Just saw it last night. Liked it a lot.
I loved it!!!! It had some great action sequences and some campy nods to the original series. ****SPOILER****The only thing I thought was odd was the whole Spock Uhura thing
That was a suprising twist, huh?
Still, for Abrams to not have been a fan and still produce this great a TREK film shows that he has enough respect for the fans and isn't just trying to cash in. There were just enough nods to make what was different in his version easier to accept.
TREK now has a new lease on life, much like JAME BOND does.
I thought the movie was great. The references to the other movies (especially Star Trek II) and the series made it even better.
This may be too early, but I'm thinking J.J. Abrams could be the next Spielberg.
I'll see it tonight on IMAX and let you all know what I think.
So far from what I read and heard, it's been getting good reviews.
I saw it last night and thought it was amazing. I'm a major Trek geek (please don't hate me) and Abrams did a heck of a job. The characters were true to Roddenberry's dream and the actors did a brilliant job. It was great. Only 3 things I didn't care for: 1-Nero was too whiney and his character didn't have a lot of depth. 2-Spock being coflicted with his human half more than I would have liked. 3-Enterprise's engineering; looked like a steam ship. Well, Scotty wasn't on board when she was built and they didn't have the dilithium crystals yet. That's for film number 2. Other than that, fantastic movie.
Who says you can't have the both of two worlds? Star Trek and of course my Star Wars!!
Too early? J.J. Abrams is no spring chicken. He's 42 years old. Spielberg was 25 when he directed Jaws. Abrams has already been around for a long time in Hollywood. Nearly twenty years already. He doesn't have near the track record Spielberg accumulated by that age.
I haven't seen ST yet, though I certainly plan to at some point. I do like ST in general, though not a fan of all those space station spin-off TV shows (how boring).
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I believe that oneone was talking about his movie track record so far. Obviously he is going to have to do more masterpieces like this Star Trek movie to be considered the next Spielberg. His age is irrelevant, it will be the volume of quality work that will speak for J.J., no matter what age he is when his work is done.
I loved this movie!! I mean I was blown away from start to finish! but, a big part of me hated me FOR loving it!! I mean, how dare they have good script writing AND good acting too! I loved the classic lines spread out in the movie, every time the next one was quoted I had a grin from ear to ear. How dare J.J. Abrams make a sci-fi movie so superior that it has me 2nd guessing my beloved prequels. and last but not least how can he make Star Trek so sexy, that my memories of Portman and Fisher seem so silly. The only question remains.... Am I a Trekkie Fanboy now?
It was OK. I'm not a big fan of the whole reboot thing...I think it's been over done and a good example of lack-of-creativity in today's movie industry. Why not hit us with some new franchise or ideas for once. If reboot is all they're going to do, then build an Enterprise E and put a new crew in it.
Oh, and I'm blaming the red matter being delivered to Mexico City to late as the cause for swine flu. ;P
Actually, that'd be an Enterprise F, you hater! LOL!
Just appreciate it man... You know it was called Star Trek before you watched it... if it being a "reboot" is the only reason you don't like it... then I am sorry. That's like saying "I won't drive it becase it is a Ford... no real reason, I just hate all Fords" haha...
Live long and prosper ha
unfortunately, reading or hearing the words "A Film By Stephen Spielberg" doesn't have an effect on me anymore.
He's lost what makes his movies feel Spielberg. Watch ANYTHING he has made in the last 10 years then go back and watch Close Encounters, Jaws, or even Poltergeist for that matter (yes, he had more influence in directing that than you think). It might be mostly in the editing, but his stuff just doesn't have that special tone anymore.
all of you that liked it should be BANNED from TDH!!
just kidding....not a big Trek fan but I did enjoy it
wished they would have left all of the time travel stuff out...and the old spock meets young spock
STAR WARS rules!!! Trek will always be second in my book!!!! LOL
Saw the movie yesterday. I love the refreshed old classic crew with there kind of humor. Abrams decided to create a new, alternating story line to ST. Think that completed new and far away from a reboot. Hope weŽll see more in the next movie.
I'm not suprised people liked it, it looks great. I have not seen it yet, and probably wont only because I dont go to the movies that often. However I will go see Terminator the day it comes out.
I liked it, but dosent the plot make all the other treks (TNG, DS9, Voyager) null and void because they changed the time line and now vulcans are endangered? I.E. Was vulcan destroyed according to the origional star trek?
I never liked the old series or movies, but I saw this one last night and was blown away. I was literally excited during the entire thing.
I think the idea behind the reboot was to get new people interested in Trek and remove some of the stigma surrounding it, and they did just that.
I plan on seeing it again and I'll definitely own it on DVD.
Just remember, it all depends on a certain point of view.
The general trend I'm noticing here is that people who were fans of the original series either didn't like it as much as they might have, or only thought it was pretty good. Of those who never liked the original series (or spin offs) the general trend is that it was pretty good or great.
It seems this movie was designed to appeal to a new audience, while still keeping enough of the original feel to appeal to at least a goodly portion of dyed in the wool fans.
I think that's a good thing. You can't change the original series, or the original time line, or the original characters. They are imprinted that way forever. There is no reason not to give a new twist to an old story. I like that kind of thing if it's done well. From what I've been reading, this one seems to have been done well. I haven't seen it yet, but want to.
I was very impressed and enjoyed watching the move through the end.
Two thumbs up!
Likewise, I also enjoyed it. I know a little bit Trek, but not alot...But I REALY enjoyed it. I can't wait for the next one.
EDIT - I went to a 3:30 showing Friday, and the people ranged from my age, to all the way into their 80's. I think evryone realy enjoyed it.
i didn't hate it like i thought i was going to.
- trek has never been an action franchise, that went right out the window.
- jj abrams is a hack summer blockbuster director, he will never achieve the level of speilberg (lost sucks!).
- the nods to the original series seemed almost out of place and cute-sy. the only one that worked was the red shirt getting killed.
- i wanted sylar to cut the top of someones head off the whole time.
- up until they point they said it was an alternate reality i was pretty upset at the giant turd that was laid on the history of the future. after that i was like, well ok. this doesn't affect the continuity.
i think the same thing that i thought ten years ago when deep space 9 ended, that the series could have made the shift to action by taking the next show/movie to starfleet academy. paramount could have taken on an entirely new cast of young/sexy talent, continued the natural progression of the series, and kept the series continuity intact.
I actually saw it Thursday and thought it was really good, maybe great! I own all the other movies on DVD, and grew up watching Next Gen and really liking it; never considered myself a Trekkie or had anyone else call me that either (except for those who knew I loved Star Wars and didn't know the difference lol). I tried to watch DS9, and did every now and again, but it got boring real quick. I caught Voyager a little mid series but was almost as lost as they were and didn't get into it. I think I've only seen a couple episodes of Enterprise and could never get into it at all.
Anyways, the new film was really good, I don't feel that what was done changes the established timeline at all, it creates an alternate universe of sorts and they can make as many new stories in it as they want and not effect what was done previously. Spock/Uhura was a little strange, but it worked well. My biggest complaint is the bridge; it's too buisy...just too much going on visually to really get an idea of what's what. One "update" I did really like was the new uniforms. I thought it was close enough to the original TV series but the "texture" added to the top shirt was cool. I really liked how much action there was.
One last thing. Through most of the movie I was thinking "these sound effects sound more "Star Warsy" than "Trekkie"...no wonder, Ben Burt did the sound design lol.
Saw it twice. Loved it. Though they will never, truely , replace my beloved original crew the NEW actors certainly grew on me. I was really impressed by the NEW Bones. He reminded me so much of Deforest Kelley. When Migel Barrett passed away they said she was doing the compter voice. I listened for it and heard a computer voice, but it didn't sound like her. Anyone know where it's heard?
It was okay.
To me it didn't feel nearly as epic as some previous ST movies like First Contact, etc.
Nero was a lousy villain I felt. He caused a lot of havoc, but in the end he was just a whining widower who happened to get lucky and jack some really awesome tech. More depth please.
The other actors did well and were interesting, but I absolutely could not correlate them at all to the people they're "supposed" to turn into. Mr. Scott was perhaps the most glaring example of this for me. Spock was actually fairly good though, all things considered.
To me this felt like "Ultimate Star Trek" a la the Marvel naming convention. Let's take the original concept, which was cool, and completely remake it, keeping only the names and general gist the same.
It was a good movie, but it wasn't what I went to the theatre hoping for or expecting.
That said, the effects were very nice and it was kind of cool to see Trek using modern CGI tech. Although, what the heck was up with the phasers?! They were like torpedoes or Star Wars Lasers. They weren't the characteristic phase "beam" anymore.
Just my two cents.
Just got back from seeing it with the kids. LOVED IT! Even the 'new' Enterprise grew on me...and I HATED it when I first saw the pics.
I LOVE IT!!!
IT IS THE GREATEST SCIENCE FICTION FOR OVER YEARS.
IŽM HAPPY THAT GEORGE LUCAS AND STEVEN SPIELBERG HAD
NOT THEIR FINGER INVOLVED
Maybe we could get JJ to 'reboot' the Star Wars Prequels!
watched it on line last night and was very pleased with it. Was definitely not my fathers Star Trek lol
Sorry to revive this Star Trek thread, but I just saw the film for the first time and I have to say I didn't like it much. Yet another sloppy plot where some bad guy goes back in time to destroy the future. Where have we seen that before? Yes, it is true that many Star Trek films create all sorts of weird logic to make sense of their plots, but after seeing this one I have to ask the obvious -- why do space ships always get to go through black holes and "come out the other side" to return to the past, but planets and supernova are simply sucked up and destroyed? Also, am I the only one in the quadrant who understands that if you intend to destroy a planet with a black hole, it isn't necessary to place the black hole in the center of the planet!? I think anywhere NEARBY will work okay. The problem is, Hollywood thinks the audience is stupid, and apparently they are right because audiences eat this stuff up like the bland coconut-oil-less popcorn they serve at the theater.
Actually, as far as plot lines go, this ranks as one of the campiest yet of the series. And then next to plot there is the problem with the characters and how they all end up promoted to command and senior positions right out of the Academy. Ugh. This film is more of a superhero origins movie in the tradition of Batman Begins rather than anything Star Trek that has come before it. I mean really... Uhura, Kirk and Mccoy all meet in Iowa on the shuttle craft for new recruits? Iowa? McCoy was from Iowa, too??? This movie requires you to switch your brain off, which is a bad place to start if you want to make good science fiction, but again, that raises the last sad point... this is not science fiction. It is just an action flick with black holes and lasers instead of car chases.
I am assured now more than ever that the previous assertion that Abrams is a hack is absolutely correct.
Saw it last weekend and LOVED IT! Best movie I have seen honestly in years. It was everything the SW prequels should have been but were not. I was a fan of Next Generation and of all the Trek movies. This exceeded my expectations. Just saw Terminator last night and I had been anticipating seeing it much more than Trek but did not enjoy it near as much.
Aw man they did an AWESOME job with McCoy! I saw it Thursday--the day before it came out--AND Friday, LoL. They did a pretty good job, coming from a Trekkie.
What is this "Star Trek" you speak of?
I agree with Mirax statement. As a matter of fact, I am now more dissappointed than ever with how the Prequels ultimately turned out, especially in hindsight. I can only watch Sith now, and I can no longer stomach the TPM and AOTC. It's sad in a way, that Star Trek, of all things, revived the action-adventure-character driven formula that Star Wars and Empire brought to the genre in the 70's. I am going again this week, and I can't wait for the Blu-Ray release.
I'm not a huge Trek fan myself but I did love that they took a whole new outlook on it all and this being more of a new movie rather than a prequel opens up the possibility for more Star Trek movies to follow this one.
Well, I saw this movie not long after it came out, and I loved it. It was well done, in my opinion, and I liked the story. Can't wait for a sequel, because you know they're going to make one.
I also don't think that McCoy and Uhura are from Iowa. In the bar the other recruits call Kirk a townie. He's from there and they are not. It's just where the shuttle for new recruits leaves.
Obviously, I like this movie. It was entertaining. It requires some logic leaps, but instead of over analyzing I choose to sit back and have fun.
No disrespect intended, just defending my viewpoint.
writer #1: So how do we establish Scottie as chief engineer on the Enterprise?
creative exec: There isn't time for that. We need time for more explosions and lens flares. Just put him on the Enterprise and have Kirk talk to him like he is the chief engineer. No reason is necessary. The audience won't care.
writer #2: But what about the fact that he is not even a part of the Enterprise crew when we introduce him? Isn't there already a chief engineer onboard who knows what he's doing? Don't we need to establish Scottie has some authority somehow?
creative exec: What? Come on! His outrageous Scottish accent is his authority! Stop over-thinking. Just think "more explosions." Fast cutting. Lots of shakey cam. Don't you know anything about writing? The audience doesn't care how he gets down there... just have him say his thing about the engines are about to explode and the audience will love it! They'll forget all that other stuff. It's movie magic, baby! Okay, love? Catching on? Now go finish that draft so we can replace you with a new team of writers for the next draft.
(This is not an attack on anybody's taste or opinion, just my silly point of view --> merely old data. Pay it no mind.)
I think that the way they introduce Scotty is good. I like that he is given his formula for beaming onto the enterprise while it is at warp speed by Spock Prime. Of course, once he has that information, he would be the more appropriate choice for the chief engineer once on the Enterprise. They do establish that he is a part of Star Fleet and we can only assume that he is more experienced than the previous engineer, because he has his formula at that point and they do not yet have this capability. Once they are back on the Enterprise, Spock doesn't know how they managed to get on a moving ship. Since it is Scotty's formula that allowed something that had never been done before, he would automatically be put in charge of this department.
If Scotty had not developed this ability to beam onto a moving ship in the past, then Spock would not have been able to give him the information, and then Kirk would have never made it back to the Enterprise in time to help with the situation with Nero.
I personally loved this movie and thought that the character development was done well for all of the main characters. I especially loved McCoy. I think it was essential for him to get on the shuttle in Iowa, even though I do not think he was from there. This way we can see how far the friendship comes between him and Kirk. I like that they would meet on their first day and then develop the relationship they had. It makes it more realistic that McCoy would put his neck on the line to get Kirk on the Enterprise since they have known each other since the beginning.
I'm getting in deeper than I ever intended, but alas, a few more swings of the blade into the empty air and then I will gracefully exit. Clearly I am in the minority opinion and that pesky studio creative exec is right.
No problem with this either. That is a clever idea to be sure, though it is used rather blandly as a shameless plot device.I like that he is given his formula for beaming onto the enterprise while it is at warp speed by Spock Prime.
The problem is, Scotty doesn't really have this capabiity either, so to make this assumption of experience level is a leap I am not following. Experience comes from actually doing things. Scotty didn't do anything. He was given the formula from some guy from the future. That's not experience. Sure, he may have the experience >in the future<, because that's where he invented the formula, but that's not at all the same as having done it in the present. If a friend of Einstein's traveled back in time and gave him his formulas for General Relativity when he was still just 8 years old, would the 8 year old Einstein then suddenly have the chops to be Lucasian Chair of Physics at Cambridge University? Even if everybody thought this 8 year old did this on his own, would they elevate him right away to top spot, no questions asked? You seem to be thinking so, but I cannot make that leap. You see, the problem is, I WANT to believe that Starfleet can be real within this fantasy world in which this movie lives. I WANT to believe it has real rules and something like a real chain of command where people earn their place through hard work and experience similar to say, how the chian of command in the United States Navy would work. But in this film it feels more like the Somali Pirate Navy, where promotions are had willy-nilly, based on whether you show up with your own AK-47 or a sling shot. Say some pithy dialog at the right moment, BAM, years of working your way up the ladder is bypassed and you are promoted to First Officer. Forget those other chumps in line for the job who have years more experience and are further up the chain of command. As I have eluded to before, when this type of thing happens the character development becomes more like a super hero movie rather than any of the stuff of previous Star Trek films. For example, in every Star Trek timeline before this film, Kirk cuts his teeth as a junior officer on another vessel for several years before given a command of a Starship. Now THAT is character arc. Character development. Something far more believable and weighty -- and in my humble view -- far more interesting. The main characters in this film are just superheroes who only achieve their positions by the entitlement granted them by their character name. But hey, if you like superheroes, then I guess all this type of thing makes sense. I just don't remember Star Trek as a superhero franchise. Pity. I guess I am behind the times.and we can only assume that he is more experienced than the previous engineer, because he has his formula at that point and they do not yet have this capability.
Did I just say franchise? Oh crud.
Oh, and an aside here: there might be an answer for this I am not aware of, but does anyone know why McCoy is at the weapons console during the Kobayashi Maru test? Did I miss something? He's still just a doctor, right?
You're going to make me cry. I might never be able to walk into another development meeting again. Resistance is futile.I personally loved this movie and thought that the character development was done well for all of the main characters.
Nah, I'm kidding. I'm not going to cry. Oh. Wait. What?
Hey, you know, I personally love Star Trek and I really truly wanted to not just like this film, but love it. Maybe I am just an old fart too stuck in the past. Maybe the reason I don't care for this Star Trek is the same reason I didn't care much for the Star Wars prequels. I'm stuck on the old magic. The new stuff has its own magic. It's a different magic. One that just doesn't speak to me.
Nah. Let's face it. The magic is gone.
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I was pleasently suprised with this movie... I didnt expect it to be very good going in and I ended up loving it! I thought they did a great job with an ACTUAL STORY! Movies now-a-days seem to be lacking in actual story and charachter development... granted I am a Star Trek fan and was already familiar with these characters... but still. I really enjoyed this movie and hope they continue making ST films of this calibur.
Scotty does have this capability. When Spock Prime gives him his own formula, Scotty had already been working on this for some time. Scotty makes this known by stating that he never thought of space as the thing that was moving.
Secondly, if Spock could just type it in and move them to the Enterprise, I am going to say that Scotty could also. But wait, he did. Who do you think gets Spock, Kirk and Pike back on the Enterprise at the end of the movie. Spock is in his moving ship, Kirk and Pike are in Nero's ship (two different places) and the Enterprise is moving as it is currently attacking when they are beamed back on. Maybe it is just me, but I sure don't think that any other engineer on that ship would have been able to do that. Even Scotty is thrilled that he was able to beam three people from two different targets at the same time.
As for plausability of quick promotions, one Han Solo, the smuggler in ANH, helped the princess escape and gave Luke some assistance in the destruction of the Death Star. In ESB, helped the princess escape again and was then frozen in carbonite. Then in ROTJ, was rescued and suddenly when the plans to assault the imperial base on Endor were being fleshed out, he is a general. The highest possible rank. It was the merit of his actions that was the reason for superquick promotions, just like in Star Trek.
Just my opinion.
you are capable of expressing into words my thoughts exactly. i am incapable of doing so because i get so angry (at the person i'm explaining to; that paramount let and encouraged this to happen to their 40 year old franchise; at jj abrahms for taking the job as director even though he had no business doing so; and that now that majel died there are no roddenberrys left to keep trek staying on course) that i can't keep my thoughts straight and it ends up with name calling.
you immediately contradict yourself. spock GIVES simon pegg (that wasn't scotty, that was simon pegg pretending to be scotty. pegg was awful as scotty. it really felt like abrahms was told one day during production that there was a character named scotty on the old show and he said, "WHO?" and after a brief description he eventually said, "well... get another writer and put him in ahhh... here." and he pointed to a random page on the script.) the equation/formula because this universe scotty wasn't capable of making the math work.Scotty does have this capability.Scotty had already been working on this for some time. Scotty makes this known by stating that he never thought of space as the thing that was moving.When Spock Prime gives him his own formula,
first off, none of them were at warp in that scene. second, yes simon pegg did do that, but if someone who already knew the launch codes for americas nuclear weapons told you the codes, you could go start WW3. simon pegg didn't know what he was doing, but he had a great cheat sheet.Secondly, if Spock could just type it in and move them to the Enterprise, I am going to say that Scotty could also. But wait, he did. Who do you think gets Spock, Kirk and Pike back on the Enterprise at the end of the movie. Spock is in his moving ship, Kirk and Pike are in Nero's ship (two different places) and the Enterprise is moving as it is currently attacking when they are beamed back on. Maybe it is just me, but I sure don't think that any other engineer on that ship would have been able to do that. Even Scotty is thrilled that he was able to beam three people from two different targets at the same time
the rebel alliance was not a formal military organization. they were guerrilla terrorists. rank structure and advancement operates a little differently in that environment than in a real military. i.e. if han worked for the other side and managed to blow up yavin before luke got his lucky shot in the hole, he would have gotten a commendation on his record, and a GJ from tarkin (who would have taken all the real credit for the defeat of the rebels) and the emperor wouldn't have given two poops about who actually did it. and certainly wouldn't have been advanced in rank to general.As for plausability of quick promotions, one Han Solo, the smuggler in ANH, helped the princess escape and gave Luke some assistance in the destruction of the Death Star. In ESB, helped the princess escape again and was then frozen in carbonite. Then in ROTJ, was rescued and suddenly when the plans to assault the imperial base on Endor were being fleshed out, he is a general. The highest possible rank. It was the merit of his actions that was the reason for superquick promotions, just like in Star Trek.
those are my opinions that i have backed with my thoughts.
Well, I stand by my opinion and my thoughts on this movie. Considering that it has got great reviews and made more at the box office than any other Star Trek movie, I am going to assume that most of the public opinion agrees with me.
Even in this very thread, most of the comments are positive on this movie. I think that you are over analyzing the movie. It is a fun and entertaining movie.
By the way, Go Steelers!!
Of what I would consider the big 3 movies so far this summer; Wolverine, Star Trek, and Terminator, Star Trek was in my opinion the best. It prompted me to go back and rewatch all 10 of the existing Trek movies, and I have even started watching the original series, which I had never really watched before. It's interesting to see some of the things in the original series link to things that happen in the films, even this current one; like Sulu fencing LOL. All in all, I would say this film has done what it set out to do; renew people's interest in an otherwise dying franchise, and make alot of money in the process.