ROMO vs FAVRE

I completely disagree with your logic of Good/Greatness being defined by number of super bowls. Montana and Aikman, as good as they were, were extremely fortunate to have great players around them. Who has Favre had? Who did Marino have? Favre and Marino never had a Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith, or Jerry Rice playing with them.

WOW, I can see the testosterone bubbling over!!:lol:

I think it's like this..Two major categories when dealing with Quarterbacks in the NFL:

Greatness : Montana, maybe Brady(as much as it pains me:p), Aikman, Bradshaw, Unitas, Staubach....etc.

Good Players (one superbowl or less): Favre, Young, Manning, Marino, and everyone else after....etc etc...

......but, as a NINER FAN I have to hate the PACKERS, it's in our blood:lol:...so sorry GBH!;)..Besides, cheese stinks...LOL!
 
you dont know your football man

GREAT QBs make the players around them great

name the other wide receiver next to IRVIN....we had a bunch of nobodies

and EMMITT...yes he is the greatest of all time so I give you that

it is common knowledge AIKMAN is the most accurate QB of ALL TIME!!!!

bottom line...if you dont win championships you AINT GREAT!!!

GREAT PLAYERS make the PLAYERS AROUND THEM GREAT

oh by the way...the other receiver next to MIKE was ALVIN HARPER....a NOBODY





I completely disagree with your logic of Good/Greatness being defined by number of super bowls. Montana and Aikman, as good as they were, were extremely fortunate to have great players around them. Who has Favre had? Who did Marino have? Favre and Marino never had a Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith, or Jerry Rice playing with them.
 
GREEN BAY!!!!!!
This is the year of the next Packer Superbowl:lol:lol::lol:lol::lol:lol::lol:lol::lol:lol:




Yep, Fett wears green. Favre wears green. Fett starts with an F, Favre starts with an F. Fett shoots rockets, Favre throws em
 
me taking a SHOT and REID?????

dude you called TO and THUG..... cheap shot...he has no drug issues...no women issues...he is far from a THUG

FACTS are REIDS kids are THUGS...DRUG THUGS and he RAISED them

not a cheap shot just REPORTED NEWS..check CNN

kinda funny the guy cant raise kids and he cant handle TO....maybe if he CARED for TO the way WADE PHILIPS does he would not have had issues with him.

TO needs LOVE man...kinda like REIDS kids????




Wow DarthM, some pretty great stuff except the cheap shot on Andy Reids personal life (n)

I wouldnt brag too heavy on catering to a spoiled thug (TO). It may came back to bite you like that karma you posted LOL...
They did it to Bonds and look at what happened. Spoiled, catered, and still a duffus and *

Its easy in hindsight to say McNabb isnt what they thought, but put your beloved with those injuries and he is riding the same ship. You can only judge what you have stated because time has gone by. That luxury has happened for Romo yet.

If he lasts as long as Favre and does what Favre has then yes, he will be HOF bound and worthy of the praise. Only time will tell.

I dont hate Romo, not at all, he is doing great. I just dont anoint dudes who rise so quick, the high percentage dont have staying power.

I still say the Pack wins. And yes, this is the NFL, its about 1 game. You lost that 1 game to the Patriots and I still think the Patriots have their 1 game coming. Its just too tough to go undefeated in the NFL.
 
I know my football quite well dude. You kind of proved your own point. If the other receiver next to Irvin was a nobody, then why didn't Aikman make him great? You contradict yourself.

Emmitt is not the greatest of all time...

I'll take Walter Payton, Jim Brown, and Barry Sanders ahead of Emmitt.


you dont know your football man

GREAT QBs make the players around them great

name the other wide receiver next to IRVIN....we had a bunch of nobodies

and EMMITT...yes he is the greatest of all time so I give you that

it is common knowledge AIKMAN is the most accurate QB of ALL TIME!!!!

bottom line...if you dont win championships you AINT GREAT!!!

GREAT PLAYERS make the PLAYERS AROUND THEM GREAT

oh by the way...the other receiver next to MIKE was ALVIN HARPER....a NOBODY
 
me taking a SHOT and REID?????

dude you called TO and THUG..... cheap shot...he has no drug issues...no women issues...he is far from a THUG

FACTS are REIDS kids are THUGS...DRUG THUGS and he RAISED them

not a cheap shot just REPORTED NEWS..check CNN

kinda funny the guy cant raise kids and he cant handle TO....maybe if he CARED for TO the way WADE PHILIPS does he would not have had issues with him.

TO needs LOVE man...kinda like REIDS kids????
so quick to forget attempted suicide by overdose on pain killers. drugs much?

also, mcnabb nothing before TO? so i guess two trips to the nfc championships and at least four times in the playoffs while TO was killing the niners from the inside is nothing.
 
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Emmitt....most yards EVER...3 superbowls

Sanders...no superbowls

Payton- 1 superbowl 2nd in yards

Brown..please...he could not rush for 1000 yards in todays NFL!!


I know my football quite well dude. You kind of proved your own point. If the other receiver next to Irvin was a nobody, then why didn't Aikman make him great? You contradict yourself.

Emmitt is not the greatest of all time...

I'll take Walter Payton, Jim Brown, and Barry Sanders ahead of Emmitt.
 
OH...AIKMAN did make HARPER GREAT...WOW bro....HARPER was a stud when he played for us

you dont remember his free agent contract when he left us....

then he turned into NOTHING

he was a nobody...but when he was with us HARPER was incredible



I know my football quite well dude. You kind of proved your own point. If the other receiver next to Irvin was a nobody, then why didn't Aikman make him great? You contradict yourself.

Emmitt is not the greatest of all time...

I'll take Walter Payton, Jim Brown, and Barry Sanders ahead of Emmitt.
 
come on dude

painkillers vs REIDS kids cocaine

again ...the point is you said I took a cheap shot on REID

then you took a cheap shot at TO

Face it your EAGLES will NEVER win a championship

I know its hard to cheer for LOSERS

I know I am spoiled...5 superbowls

on our way to 6....(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)


so quick to forget attempted suicide by overdose on pain killers. drugs much?

also, mcnabb nothing before TO? so i guess two trips to the nfc championships and at least four times in the playoffs while TO was killing the niners from the inside is nothing.
 
even if by some fluke that dallas makes it to the superbowl, there is no way that they'll beat the pats. i'm not a pats fan, butthey are way too dominant to lose to a team they already beat this season. in fact i don't think there is any team in the nfc that can beat the pats.
 
they cant beat us TWICE

we had them down in the 3rd quarter

its hard to beat a GREAT TEAM twice

and if they do....its OK

we have ROMO...so we will be back for the next several years

ROMO ROMO ROMO(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)


even if by some fluke that dallas makes it to the superbowl, there is no way that they'll beat the pats. i'm not a pats fan, butthey are way too dominant to lose to a team they already beat this season. in fact i don't think there is any team in the nfc that can beat the pats.
 
COWBOYS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!! I'm a huge fan over here

COWBOYS (y)

Packers (n)

OH and TIME WARNER CABLE (n)(n)(n)
They just bite the winnie!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I have to go to my dads to watch it!!!
 
C'mon...all this talk about great QB's and nobody mentions Rexy Grossman...:p

And although it kills me to admit it, I do have a grudging respect for Brett. There is nobody currently tougher in the NFL, and he seems a very humble, down-to-earth guy, just like Walter Payton was.

And, let's face it...the official clothing of Wisconsin is a Green #4 jersey for casual occasions and a white #4 jersey for formal occasions such as weddings.:)
 
Wow! This thread is getting heated. You'd think someone had said that the Cowboys recast something. ;)
I do consider myself a Cowboys fan, win or lose. The numbers don't lie though. Emmitt Smith is the all time yards leader and HOF, you can't deny that. BUT, would he have been that great without Jerry Jones' deep pockets to buy an outstanding offensive line? Maybe, but I doubt it. Fact of the matter is, Jerry Jones put together one of the greatest dynasties ever. The whole team was good, not just one person.

Farve has had talent around him through the years: Mark Chimura, Sterling Sharpe, Dorsey Levens, Antonio Freeman, Ahman Green, Donald Driver, just to name a few. The fact of the matter is, they just haven't gotten it done.

Romo... I myself wondered if his season last year was a fluke. It wasn't. He has performed as well this year as he did last season. His contract extension was justified, IMHO. YES, there was the botched hold in the Seahawk game and he will probably be remembered for that. But, again, stats don't lie: 3000+ yards passing, 31 TDs, 66% completion percentage and a 105.3 rating (3300, 22, 68%, 101.5 for Favre). My vote overall goes to Romo.

TO - well, can't say I really care for him as a person, but he's good. Period. You over compensate for TO, you get slammed by another reciever or Jason Witten. He is a difference maker, like him or not.

CGClone - It's Carrie Underwood, not Jessica Simpson. Don't hate.

Wes
 
I'm a Bills fan, so I definantly will not root for the Cowboys. Shoot I even root for our division rivals if they play the Cowboys. I don't know if there is a better model player than Favre. Even if you are not a fan, can't help but feel sad when it looked like he might end his career, going out on a stinker last season. If the Packers can beat the Cowboys, and also get to the Super Bowl, and beat the Patriots, it would bring balance to the football world.:lol:
 
First off... admin hat on... let's keep it civil guys. ;)

Secondly...

If you honestly think that Brady is nothing without Bellicheck you're nuts. Listen to the football analysts... they compare the guy to Joe Montana. And folks... he's already got three rings. Add another one after this season to tie Joe Montana.

As for Bellicheck and the cheating "scandel"... again... talk to real football guys or just listen to them. They all say that all the teams do it. Bellicheck only got caught because the Jet's coach knew all his "moves" because he worked for him! Mangini had a grudge to settle and ratted him out. Trust me... they all do it.

As for some of the other comments in this thread you've got to be kidding me. Put Barry Sanders on those Cowboys teams and he'd have blown Emmitt Smith away! You can't compare Barry on those terrible Lions teams to Emmitt and his AMAZING O Line. Not even fair.

And Romo being better than Favre... are you kidding me? Favre already has proven himself through the years as one of the greats. Romo isn't even in his league yet.

Lastly... you talk as if ANYONE in the NFC has a shot of winning the SuperBowl. Riiiight... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
BARRY SANDERS IS A LOSER...HE QUIT ON HIS TEAM!!!!!!

you can not be considered a great player if you QUIT on your team

OH..I guess you all FORGOT when the LIONS made the PLAYOFFS.....REMEMBER that GAME in the PLAYOFFS where SANDERS RUSHED for ZERO Yards.....

PLEASE....he was on a GOOD TEAM that year....

EMMITT was a better blocker, pass catcher and CLUTCH player

YES Barry was a better RUNNER...but thats it...

EMMITT was a better FOOTBALL player and LEADER!!!!!!!


and FAVRE...18 years 1 SUPERBOWL

ROMO...in 3 months will be 2 years and 1 Superbowl
ROMO ROMO ROMO ROMO ROMO(y)(y)(y)(y)(y):












First off... admin hat on... let's keep it civil guys. ;)

Secondly...

If you honestly think that Brady is nothing without Bellicheck you're nuts. Listen to the football analysts... they compare the guy to Joe Montana. And folks... he's already got three rings. Add another one after this season to tie Joe Montana.

As for Bellicheck and the cheating "scandel"... again... talk to real football guys or just listen to them. They all say that all the teams do it. Bellicheck only got caught because the Jet's coach knew all his "moves" because he worked for him! Mangini had a grudge to settle and ratted him out. Trust me... they all do it.

As for some of the other comments in this thread you've got to be kidding me. Put Barry Sanders on those Cowboys teams and he'd have blown Emmitt Smith away! You can't compare Barry on those terrible Lions teams to Emmitt and his AMAZING O Line. Not even fair.

And Romo being better than Favre... are you kidding me? Favre already has proven himself through the years as one of the greats. Romo isn't even in his league yet.

Lastly... you talk as if ANYONE in the NFC has a shot of winning the SuperBowl. Riiiight... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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I laid off the thread for a while because it was just the biggest pi$$ing contest, not really any football facts to prove a point, so this may be or my not be my last post LOL...

WebC - I agree, they all do it. Yes, Brady is a stud outside the scandle, I have never questioned that.

Romos #'s are great, no one has questioned that, I feel like Cowboy fans feel like they have to defend this guy. Put a reality cap and think. He hasnt been around as long as Favre, hasnt proven anything yet other than he is accurate and has fast recievers to hit.

Sorry DM, you keep clinging to one quarter. No matter what it was in the 3rd, when the last second ticked off the clock, the Cowboys lost.

TO is an incredible football player, his integrity and selfishness has always been the things that are questioned. He didnt get his way so he threw the 49ers under the bus. Didnt like Baltimore, so he whined. Then threw Donovan under the next passing bus. See the cycle? You get the impression every time Jones walks through the locker room he slips TO a few benjamins.

Sorry Jango_Wes, here : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15821211/
Its Jessica now.

So now, lets talk football shall we?

The Cowboys run a lot of the hitch and go, and skinny posts to free up TO while running Wilker underneath, thats hard to defend, props there.

The Packers run a ton of 5 outs and that kills DB's and defensive schemes.

So the results, IMHO, will be who is better ready on defense.

and for the record, I have the NFL channel on DirectTV, but the game tonight is screwing the fans over, its sucks that its not on national TV.
 
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