Not taking sides or anything here, but sometimes Chris' posts are a little long....HAH!
Regardless if you didn't know what you did was wrong, you still broke the rules here on TDH, and an apology most likely is in order. We all break rules every once and a while without noticing it, if I went to Michigan and took a left turn and got pulled over I wouldn't tell the officer, "I didn't know, I don't care ", I'd at least show a little remorse. An apology is the least you could do to help rectify the situation.
I think we can all here see that Chris is hurt over the situation at hand, and it has been pointed out by the Board Owner that you have broken the rules, regardless if you knew about it prior to what you were doing.
And I'll have enough of that. I see it every day lately.
I'm consistently hung out for "over long posts". Does it ever occur to anyone,
that it's because I have something to say ?
Those that poke at me for having something to say, is only actually saying,
they don't care. And that is fine. But there are those, that do care what my
postion is on a given matter at hand.
I understand that this has become a "Wal-Mart" world of convenience. But
when did we get too lazy to read? When did it become "not cool" or no
longer "hip" to do what we as human beings do ?
If you don't care, or don't care read what I have to say,
then don't. But the kidding has gone too far.
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings Chris! I wasn't aware the joke would be hurtful.
If it makes you feel any better, I always read what you have to say, because I know you put a lot of thought into your posts
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I watched Flash of Genius the other night, and I thought of this thread. I would recommend it to those who have a dog in this fight. It is written from the engineers point of view but it is interesting to say the least. It is about th guy who invented the intermittent wind shield wiper. The court case at the end is specifically when I thought of all of this. I don't know if this adds to this thread but it shows that these types of disagreements are not new and are not isolated to our hobby.
I just hope this can be resolved to a reasonable end
my 2 cents
This is all very confusing.
FettDad -- I don't get it. I've been an "admin" here for... gah... probably a couple of years now? I haven't seen this rampant abuse of power you speak of. It's easy to vilify The Dent as this abusive forum-monster until you've been online with him at some ****** hour of the morning trying to figure out how to make the site work. It's easy to say Chris is making a ton of money on these helmets until you've actually spend 12 hours in your hole making helmets.
To me, they both seem like people just trying to do something good.
There haven't ever really been public staffing notices, and most of us who have moderator type access don't really even mention it (I bet there aren't a lot of folks here that know I'm a moderator!). So Asok not being on the staff anymore... I'm not sure why you would have expected an announcement? I seem to recall him transitioning out right around when I was coming on. There was some small overlap, but not much. I could just be blurring this up with another board though.
As for Chris being a god... I also don't get that. I see him more of a slave than anything else. The dude is sitting in a hole fiberglassing helmets in all of his spare time. And he's probably lucky if he makes $10 an hour doing it.
To the point of recasting: for me it's all about respect. I personally don't care about recasting at all. I invite everyone to recast any of my stuff and sell it anywhere and anyway they want. BUT, I respect other artists and their wishes. So if Chris says that a holster is his and asks us to not copy it, I respect that. It's not about "we're all thieves here", it's not about found parts... it's just about respecting other community members.
I don't know either of you, I was merely stating an opinion from what I know. OK, he admitted it. He is a thief. I never said he was right. What can you do about it. Some people just suck ya know?
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*** edited for a misunderstanding ***
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Its a Shame this is happening FettDad was the first person who extended a helping hand to me and infact recomened Fettpride to me
To FettDad (if you even read this) thanks and good luck on your future
To Fettpride sorry you must constantly bear this burden and thank you for being very proffesional about this matter
Edited due to misunderstanding!
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Why hasn't Fettdad been banned?
He took one of Fettpride's holsters and knowingly recast it, then sold the copies.
I have been banned from this very forum just for (admittedly) being an A-hole, yet Fettdad gets a bye on recasting?
refer to post 11...i...recast...nothing...get the facts straight before you burn me at the stake...thanks...
and Nathan, banning me only hurts those i have obligations with... keep that in mind...
i dont care if i get banned...i am removing myself from TDH for personal reasons anyways...so idle threats of my banning dont affect me...i did my research on FOUND items, i spoke with quote admin at the time, and got the ok... making a costume for myself in future? i have my resources...
and making money on these holsters? wow...i sent out less than 10...what a killing i made...
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So if stormrider was taking his time sending out kits for blasters and i recasted his kit that would be ok how? You really couldnt read Chris's reply, thats kinda childish that you "dont care." Thats what I wow'd at...your lack of respect for other people here just goes to show your simply trying to hide that you got caught in a mess. You wont admit it playing John Wayne and sticking to your I did nothing wrong wont help the fact that the holsters were recasted. Not recasted originals but recasted from a FP holster not a genuine Nemrod. Who ever did the recasting FOR you recasted it you sold the recasted item. Either way just as bad you KNOWINGLY sold FP recasted holsters.
how am i hiding? i am here...it doesnt matter what he says...i did what i felt was right, went thru the said channels and resources, and made a decision...running? how?
you dont think its right what i did, then dont do it...i was told it was ok, and felt it was right... not going to happen again...
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I think that those who haven't read the earlier post don't get this point.
I see how you feel betrayed and sympathize with you Chris.
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member too. Sort of melding you together. I overstepped. Might I suggest you and I editing our posts and
shaking hands Tensions are running quite high at the moment. Myself is to whom I refer I will
edit my posts right now.
don't see right through. But just to clarify in case someone hasn't already figured
out what that meant ...
You've purchased at least 3 sets of everything I've ever made.
I sincerely hope, that isn't a threat of action, recasting my
other items. Or to be more specific, paying "someone else"
to recast my other items.
For you to consistently refer to any potential reprimand for
your actions being a "harm to others" you have business
with, also sounds like somewhat of a threat, Darrell.
This is senseless for you to act this way. As you've pointed
out, you're a Teacher, and what I considered to be one
hell of a stand up guy. Don't lower yourself this way man
Goodness. I just finished reading this entire thread. I can't believe I am still awake. Not a poke, reading usually puts me out cold. I have had dealings and/or conversations with nearly every poster here, and respect you all. One thing I am still dark about is why Darrel is still being attacked.
#11 was a very interesting post. Based on that post alone, I can't see why everyone seems to want to bury Darrel. Again I have read every single post. Something seems to be missing. Instinct says there is more to the story. I have not read anything saying that Darrel outright commissioned Stormrider to make cast of the Holster. But maybe I missed it.
As for Darrel's lack of apologies, he seems to have stated himself very clearly as to his understanding of the rules (at the time). Why apologize for being called a thief, when you don't believe you are and feel wrongly accused. And again, doesn't Stormrider rate for any of the wrath being wrought on Darrel.
The obligations that you had with members of this forum are unaffected. You already have their addresses and can continue to mail the items you have already sold.
This will also prohibit you from selling any more items to members on this forum.
And as far as "FOUND" items go, I the only thing you "FOUND" was Chris' holster .
That is, unless they are of the same level of character and integrity as yourself.