It wasn't ever offered publicly Lufo, nor was it ever offered for 50 dollars...
Last edited by Gilmortar; Dec 28, 2009 at 1:29 PM.
Lol, I love the contribution to the recasting debate. MR now acceptable to recast.. Yes you can mod it out, but I will agree that no one here can call it their helmet, no matter how much they change it, just like any other prop. Unless you scratched it/collected found parts I don't agree with stamping your name on the mold...especially with the whole no intended profit argument.
agree with you CB. that is whole point on this.
then you have the guantlet missile incident that was supposed to be the mother of all boba guantlet missiles only to find out it was a jango missile.
but that is another topic entirely.
Not to sidetrack this too much....The missile in question is Russ'?
Realistically prop-educated people can see what is going on, there shouldn't be a need to hype anything. If someone wants a MR Recast they can get it. He is not making anything available to anyone that hasn't been offered before. But spend you money how you want. I personally will buy cake. You can buy pie if you want.
Not Russ, bud.
The missile they're talking about is the one 'Texas Fett Productions' (with FP in the team) made a few months ago.
The more is written the more you guys seem to think your statements are of anyones interest ... thatīs why I edited my post and stop writing on this thread now.
I just wonder why you dudes always see the bad in everything ... itīs a bad behavior.
It is sad to see that, as usual, this is actually an issue of personalities and not an issue of content as some would try to make it appear.
Last edited by Art Andrews; Dec 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM.
It isn't a matter of him recasting it and simply selling copies Wes. He took a copy, RETOOLED it by hand and eliminated imperfections and brought more accurate perspectives to it.
If you took an FX helmet, and reworked it to a better piece that was more screen accurate, would you accept that its alright for anyone to go and recast that piece after you took the time to refinish and fix inaccuracies on it?
There was the exact same debate when the DP Deluxe was recast for group use, and you know why? Because then the people with the DP Deluxe who felt special because they could afford the 400 dollar helmet now weren't the only ones with a DP Deluxe.
You guys are so quick to call out Chris as a Recaster, yet lets really get to the bottom of this and find out where this "so-called" $50 helmet is coming from? Maybe from someone who doesn't regularly frequent the boards anymore?
The deal here isn't that Chris is putting his stamp on someone else who is here at TDH. It's not like he took a Terminal Fettler helmet, and reworked it, and said he sculpted it from scratch which is what has happened with others here in the past. He took a produced item, that didn't quite have it all perfect and made it a little more accurate and is NOW making it available to other members. And he isn't lying and saying he built it from scratch. He is telling everyone where its origins came from. And ya know...150 bucks really isnt ALL THAT BAD OF A PRICE. Considering you spend atleast ohh....around $225-$250 dollars in making just a small simple glove mold of the helmet. Then not to mention the amount of money spent in resin and fiberglassing material.
And resin alone for a helmet going gelcoat, matting, cover coats, can range up to 50-70 per helmet...
So yeah...if someone wants to do them at cost then sure its a great idea. People have done that in the BudgetFett threads. But some who intend to offer more things to people in the future, have to also take into account future materials costs.
We all know this...so cmon Wes, you know its not a real money making issue. If that were the deal, we would have much more Fett License holders among us selling us items for quadruple the money and we would all be walking around as automaton Fetts...an army of Cloned Fett's? so to speak?
That would be a negative...I am not for nor against FP. I don't actually own an item of FP's for my Fett to be frank. But I know the difference between "speaking of what you see here" and speaking in Proxy of someone's views who aren't present on the boards currently.i could say the same of you and the company you keep. i speak for myself and what i see on here. anyone that speaks out against,critiques or questions FP is automatically a villian and is blackballed on here. that is not an opinion but fact.
And as for my "company"...that would be that of this community. The best of my friends in this life, are from this board that I have known for over a decade, from when this board was known as "As You Wish". I would give my very life for any of them and that is NOT an exaggeration. They have been there in the darkest times of my life and in fact I'll be flying thousands of miles just to hang out for the weekend with some of those friends. Not to mention that those friends have contributed MORE to this board than you have ever known or even seen on here for that matter.
So I believe you, you do know the COMPANY of mine. They are all members of this board and have been for many many years. And I've seen people come and go, and I've seen people pout and cry about FP as well...over and over.
And Zero...I really believe you. I know you are apologetic for some of the things you said, and you hold your self accountable for it, and I commend you on your efforts to rectify that situation. Bravo sir...hopefully things can get worked out between you and FP.
If I am not correct please explain to me why you feel FP would have no claim whatsoever to the reworked helmet, no matter how much or how little work he did to it.
Can you think of any other instances where someone has a helmet they didn't make but had slightly modded and then recast in which you would surely NOT be ok happy if it were declared as not their work and therefore completely ok to recast? I sure can think of one and I think we would both agree on that issue so why is this situation different?
You sure about that? What might have those imperfections been?It isn't a matter of him recasting it and simply selling copies Wes. He took a copy, RETOOLED it by hand and eliminated imperfections and brought more accurate perspectives to it.
I mean it was a 3-D digital scan, it doesn't get any more accurate than that does it? Even SpideyFett said this was true..
This is my issue Gilmore
The MR didnt have a wavy brow did it?
Also, Chris DOES deserve a lot of credit for fixing up the helmet , but he then needs to sell it for what it is.
Think about stormrider and MOW who constantly had struggles on ebay with people recasting their stuff, modded or not. It's not about it being MR this time, it's about using something as a base...good intentions or not.
I think it's great that the work is being offered to the community, but post count, friends, whatever...everyone should be held to the same standards as the rules apply to all of us...even mods.
Boy, you know it has gotten bad when we have begun resorting to multi-quoting...