New members (spamming)

Is it just me, or is the trend for new members to click on different posts just to add a lame comment? I do believe they try to get up to a post count so they can sell items etc. I find this to be a little bit annoying, since they are just writing things like "good work", or "looks great". And THATS the only comment from the member. Don't take this the wrong way, i welcome new members, but i think they should get to know this forum first, and also they could introduce themselfs in another thread. When you see people joining the forum the same day they post like 15 comments in a matter of a couple minutes apart, it seems a little fishy.

Just a little frustration from my side.
Comments/thoughts are welcome

Ive noticed the same thing. A lot of the time I notice those type of comments are made on threads that are from years ago as well.

they must really want to sell something...

i will agree they could at least diversify the comments, but i think the original post count rule is what started it...which i don't disagree with anyway.

either way you're either going to have the at'a'boy posts or tons of junk in the post count limited threads.

I've noticed it too... sometimes it is hard to filter if they are really new members or just spammers

Looks great. Good work.

Nice.

I guess this is turning into an "if you cant beat 'em, join 'em" situation

speaking as a new member I think part of it also comes from the fact that in the begining there isn't much that a person can comment on other than to compliment costumes. Most discusions etc on the board are in the sarlacc pit, we can't comment on any of the runs being produced in the cargo hold. So that leaves trying to add information and answers to questions that are asked (which at least for me I felt uncomfortable doing at first as I was new) or complimenting armor that is built.

As per the point that we should look around before we start posting, I can only speak for myself, but I've been checking this board off and on for over a year and looking around before I decided to join, I was ready to post when I signed up. I hope this helps get a little bit out from the other side and maybe provide some understanding. I know for me I never left I comment I didn't feel was deserved, and I apologize if the posts i've made feel like spamming to you guys.

To add to what Dr3w stated above, new members have so many restrictions in place that prevent them from posting much else. At least until they have a high enough post count that they can finaly start their own threads. So I can understand, though don't always agree, with the short quips to build up their post counts so that they can officially contribute to the boards.

I've noticed this a LOT in the mando-variant section; you get posts that say "good work! nice suit" in a thread that hasnt been posted in since 2007...you see all the bright red dots (unread post indicator thingies) and then you look over and see that the top eight are all from the same person, who now has a grand total of eight posts... guess there is nothing we can do about it though...

You know... something I have seen implemented at other forums is that old threads get locked... like after one year... Hmmm...

Originally Posted by A'den Kyramud

I've noticed this a LOT in the mando-variant section; you get posts that say "good work! nice suit" in a thread that hasnt been posted in since 2007...you see all the bright red dots (unread post indicator thingies) and then you look over and see that the top eight are all from the same person, who now has a grand total of eight posts... guess there is nothing we can do about it though...

I can back this up, there is way to much necro going on in the variant board. Stuff from 2007 just has no business being brought back to life for a "Wow I love your armor!" post.

Originally Posted by ART ANDREWS

You know... something I have seen implemented at other forums is that old threads get locked... like after one year... Hmmm...

Can't someone with computer skills do something about that, it was an excellent idea.

super awesome!

i agree!

Great comments.

Maybe a thread could get locked after being without posts for a said period of time, shorter than a year even. On another note, allowing a threadstarter to either lock or delete their own threads might clean up the forum of old threads a little.

Another option would be to add a sort of sub-section in each forum where threads older than so-and-so get moved to after a while.

Hmm...I don´t know, just tossing out some ideas of the topof my head. Gotta go watch Cops now :-P

Another Forum I'm a member of, but having been active in around two years, has something along those lines and they call it the Recycle Bin. It's pretty much for threads that don't belong anywhere else, or threads that someone had started just to pump up their post count. It seemed to work well enough for them, at least.

Should work, yeah. As long as the threads stay available and aren´t too hard to find, seeing that lot of threads here have loads of tips, hints and information that should be easy to fond. But I guess that´s why we have the search function

Maybe a new sub-forum could be made for members to post tips and the like. Threads a little bit more than the Wiki, if that's possible.

Originally Posted by Dr3w

speaking as a new member I think part of it also comes from the fact that in the begining there isn't much that a person can comment on other than to compliment costumes. Most discusions etc on the board are in the sarlacc pit, we can't comment on any of the runs being produced in the cargo hold. So that leaves trying to add information and answers to questions that are asked (which at least for me I felt uncomfortable doing at first as I was new) or complimenting armor that is built.

As per the point that we should look around before we start posting, I can only speak for myself, but I've been checking this board off and on for over a year and looking around before I decided to join, I was ready to post when I signed up. I hope this helps get a little bit out from the other side and maybe provide some understanding. I know for me I never left I comment I didn't feel was deserved, and I apologize if the posts i've made feel like spamming to you guys.

I personally think that this is a mole hill becoming a mountain. We need to remember that Newbie's are just awkard, WE are were.... and we ALL are still


It is typical newbie activity. No newbie should feel bad. It has been the same for most all of the new people to all forums.

I think we need to give them some slack. Welcome them here. If they will be long lasting and valuable members, the will stick around and their posts will be more productive as they settle in.


Welcome Newbies!

Let us "oldies remember that we are one of the kindest forums here. Let's keep it that way!

Originally Posted by LadySewforus

I personally think that this is a mole hill becoming a mountain. We need to remember that Newbie's are just awkard, WE are were.... and we ALL are still


It is typical newbie activity. No newbie should feel bad. It has been the same for most all of the new people to all forums.

I think we need to give them some slack. Welcome them here. If they will be long lasting and valuable members, the will stick around and their posts will be more productive as they settle in.


Welcome Newbies!

Let us "oldies remember that we are one of the kindest forums here. Let's keep it that way!

I agree and thank you for your kind words. I was recently a "New Member" and I can say that it is hard to get your post count high enough for the step up. I wanted to start new posts with questions that I had, but I wasn't able to. I basically had to compliment peoples work, and ask questions in other people posts (related posts of course). I am happy to be a part of this forum, and you all make me feel welcomed and part of the forum. So thanks again to all of you.

Nice work by the way

Originally Posted by Thellmann

I agree and thank you for your kind words. I was recently a "New Member" and I can say that it is hard to get your post count high enough for the step up. I wanted to start new posts with questions that I had, but I wasn't able to. I basically had to compliment peoples work, and ask questions in other people posts (related posts of course). I am happy to be a part of this forum, and you all make me feel welcomed and part of the forum. So thanks again to all of you.

Nice work by the way

Hi Thellmann. Like you said here, it is hard to find things to write in the other posts. But if you use the posts for asking questions and writing a little more than "good work", that is exactly the way you should build up your post count. I know when people join this awesome forum they are super-eager to get started with their Fett. But like stated earlier, maybe not post around 15 posts in a afternoon with "nice". Welcome to the forum.
And......
Good posting

Doesn't it take 14 days to get access, in addition to posting? Should be plenty of time to find something to write other than "Nice work!". But when you get here as a newbie there is so much amazing to see, so people will comment on that anyway. As long as it's new threads, I'm cool with it.

I don't get why people are so touchy about bringing back really old posts....I mean if it's just to bump post counts thats one things, but sometimes people have current, relevant info to add to an old topic.

just a question. how long do you have to be a member before you quit being new? i still considcer myself new and iv started a thread or two.

Originally Posted by ShocKWavE

I don't get why people are so touchy about bringing back really old posts....I mean if it's just to bump post counts thats one things, but sometimes people have current, relevant info to add to an old topic.

I totally agree. Sometimes there are new and interresting info about old topics. I have seen it several times here. But then it isn't a post that is like, "nice".

Originally Posted by Creon

just a question. how long do you have to be a member before you quit being new? i still considcer myself new and iv started a thread or two.

Well, when it comes to being new, it is just a matter of definition. A baby is pretty new the first few months i would say. And here i think new is something in the vicinity of the first year. Or maybe the first 50 posts??
idunno

yeah, I am still kinda new... I would like to think I have contributed a little bit in my first year here as a newbie

I'm still kind of new here and I think this is nit picking. I don't post unless the topic interests me. But I have posted 'my' thoughts and still don't get any real comments so should I start a thread about being ignored? Or will I be banished for saying this? Really!

I couldn't have said it better myself BH Reaper.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Creon
just a question. how long do you have to be a member before you quit being new? i still considcer myself new and iv started a thread or two.

Well, when it comes to being new, it is just a matter of definition. A baby is pretty new the first few months i would say. And here i think new is something in the vicinity of the first year. Or maybe the first 50 posts??
idunno

Hmm, that is a good question. I've been a member here for longer than Mojo-Fett, but as to who has been more productive here, there is no question. My Fett project has been shelved for now, and will remain so until I can finish my Ghostbusters gears. I'll try to be more of an member after that.
Still, I'd like to add that there are many 'Great work' comments coming from older members too. Is the difference with newbie commenting 'Great work' from an older member that the older knows a little more of what he is saying, whereas the newbie is still learning..?
It may seem as spamming or futile comment, but a complement is a complement. And the new guys, me along everyone, are still learning. Until it becomes clear that some one is resurecting old threads just to increase his post count, it should not matter. Locking you the ancient threads would work too, it only makes finding them a little harder.
Not wanting to rustle any feathers here, just my two cents.
-Ville

Noob checking in! Great thread!

i like the idea of autolocking threads after a year...then if someone really has something to add a mod could always open back up if notified through a PM

I seem to remember someone here with the signature of
"You are not your post count". So whats the big deal. You can still see the date they joined if your worried if it's a "noob" complementing you. There are a lot of great costumes here and while some people (me included after all these years) may not know the subtle differences in all the varying parts, they can still look and think, "Thats awesome". We were all new at one point. If they are being rude, thats one thing, but the day I complain about getting a complement, is near immposibility.

I am one of the original members and I post "well done, or GJ!" type stuff all the time....Who cares

I really don't see the problem with people posting praise or compliments. When I was new here, I searched through TONS of threads and enjoyed giving compliments and still do. I think the only thing that is annoying some people is when a new guy posts "good job" on a thread that is three years old. When that happens, it may seem like that person is trying to get a higher post count. Even then, what is the big deal? This is TDH! This place is known for being a newb-friendly online community. Nowadays, people make a lot of fuss about this type of thing....what good does it do? It just makes em look like jerks.

**I'm not directing this at the thread starter. I have seen this sort of thing on TONS of forums such as the 405th Halo costuming site. Those guys can be down right hostile...which is why I have never posted there.

The same can be said for various other forums too, like the Winamp forums. They sometimes get a little downright hostile as well, and honestly, a tad bit too juvenile. That's pretty much why I haven't posted there in two years.

Originally Posted by Kwally89

I really don't see the problem with people posting praise or compliments. When I was new here, I searched through TONS of threads and enjoyed giving compliments and still do. I think the only thing that is annoying some people is when a new guy posts "good job" on a thread that is three years old. When that happens, it may seem like that person is trying to get a higher post count. Even then, what is the big deal? This is TDH! This place is known for being a newb-friendly online community. Nowadays, people make a lot of fuss about this type of thing....what good does it do? It just makes em look like jerks.

**I'm not directing this at the thread starter. I have seen this sort of thing on TONS of forums such as the 405th Halo costuming site. Those guys can be down right hostile...which is why I have never posted there.

I agree completely about the at-a-boy comments! Totally do it I say! Everyone loves a little encouragement and praise for their hard work!!!

But the old post thing IS annoying. some of the members who's threads are getting posted on havent even logged in in three years! I like CombatBaby's idea. lock the thread, and if something important or relevent is to be added, give the mods (and perhaps the thread's author) the ability to bring it back. no harm in that, and it keeps those threads from floating around the top of the lists.

Just my 2cents

A'den

PS- Happy Father's Day!!!

PPS- @Debbi... the way you stand up for things is amazing. I hope we (actually, i hope I) dont come off as crotchety. Just trying to make a more efficient system.
@all: I hope i dont seem like a newby hater. I'm still a MAJOR noob, and totally think that this site is the most friendly of all the forums I'm a part of! You all are the best!!! :thumbup

after reading through this entire thread, i was hesitant to even say anything.

but here goes:

I am new here, and i did introduce myself in my own thread...i can say that being new, at first i felt a little odd, maybe even sheepish to ask a few questions because i thought some would think, "you should already know the answer to that"...also, there are some areas where new people cannot post, which makes things that much more difficult...

i do post and compliment people on thier work, and i actually read through the entire thread to see how thier mando/fett/jango has progressed before posting...however, i do like to give people positive feedback and encouragment on thier projects therefore i am guilty of that.

as far as resurrecting dead threads, i could understand how that would possibly be considered aggravating...however, sometimes you have to dig to find a thread to discover inspiration for a femme mando (maybe we could have those stickied (sp?) or placed in another topic field (dont shoot me, or anything like that, just a little suggestion)???

i know that my post count is high for being new, but i work in a call center, and we tend to have alot of down time...therefore, i enjoy spending it seeing what people come up with when they let creativity take over...

the only reason i havent had a chance to even start on my own mando so i can post pics for critique, etc. is because i'm getting ready to move and do not have time to even start on such an endeavor (believe me i wish i did)...the only reason i make any mention of that is because i have a feeling that maybe some people may become upset when a noob doesnt right away start a thread about how well thier armor/bucket, etc is coming along...but if you are chastising (sp?) noobs for making posts that compliment people, etc, that would make those who have been working on project a little hesitant to post thier progress on here ...


sorry if i have upset anyone or ruffled any feathers, believe me i was in no way shape or form trying to rant or anything like that, only to give some insight...i do know that thus far everyone i have chatted with on here has been really awesome, and has answered any question i may have, for that i am thankful...hope you all had a great weekend

Originally Posted by nah'ima tifett

as far as resurrecting dead threads, i could understand how that would possibly be considered aggravating...however, sometimes you have to dig to find a thread to discover inspiration for a femme mando...

i totally know what you are talking about! but it isnt the digging for old threads that is the stated probled (im all for mining the forums all the back to this board's begining post to find info and answers); it is just when people uncover those ancient threads, find what they were searching for, then drop a "good going!" reply. THAT is somewhat irritating.

Good job

Hey just my 2 cents here but I feel that there is a limit to saying "good job".

Saying "Good Job" and "Nice Work" are vital for encouragement and support of fellow Fett Heads and their projects. Heck, I've done it myself. I do not think that the members addressing this issue are upset or annoyed with people making those comments. It is when you see a member post like 20+ times in an hour only saying "Good Job" or "Nice" is where it gets annoying.

If you have lots of free time and see 20+ posts you want to comment on, you could always say "Good Job, I liked what you did because...." That way you actually become part of the discussion and can maybe then in turn offer some helpful feedback.

But to address Nah'Ima, I don't think you have to post your progress right away. A Fett takes TIME and to be honest it is probably better to wait before you rush into it. When I started here, I had some armor and 1.5+ years later still am working on mine. I also don't have a progress thread up, but once it is done I will post a showoff. BTW it is looking like version 1 will be done by the end of the summer!!

So thats just my opinion about it.

Oh and to everyone new here.....WELCOME to the MADDNESS....I mean...the FAMILY!!!!

Cheers