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  1. fettpride's Avatar
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    Dec 19, 2009, 1:52 AM - Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #1

    Hey folks ... do a search on ebay for

    "Don Post Original mold Boba Fett Helmet"

    Credit to Lufo1138 for pointing this out to me earlier BTW - Eric, if you see this, I can't PM you ... you turned something off. Tired of me already huh

    So I have a theory. Based on the photo's provided in the auction, it appears to be an authentic production mold for Don Post's classic vinyl helmets (DP 95, 96, 97). The vinyl casting process that was used - used alloy molds. This is a cast metal helmet mold that is mounted to a rotocasting frame. Taking that a step further ... there is a documentary that was made many years ago about the rise of Star Wars Pop Culture, and in the documentary they showed a clip of Don Post Studios rotocasting a number of Star Wars masks, including C3PO and Boba Fett. The roto molds look very much so like this one

    But here's the fun part. All of these years everyone has wondered why Don Post Studios would have gone to the lengths they did making what we know to be the "Mystery Helmet" today, and never produce it?

    My theory is, when they modified a PP2 cast, or whatever has been agreed that they used as a base to start (this part is unimportant to my point) ... they made a metal or aluminum lost wax copy, turned it over and welded it to a frame, which became the mold for their vinyl series of helmets. This might explain why the vinyl helmets were smaller in size than a Mystery Helmet?

    I may not have it completely right, but I think it's in the right direction. Perhaps what we know to be the "Mystery Helmet" today, was never intended to be produced because it's sole purpose was to be used as a mold

    It also might account for why the "Lava" helmet looked like a molten casting, much like the pictures we see of this mold in the aution. The outiside, although full of warts and blemishes from the alloy casting process, looks just like a Mystery Helmet, as does the "Lava". The inside of the mold in the auction, is washed out in detail, and would produce a general helmet shape much like the helmet that it is being pulled from, but smaller and not as refined ... just as the DP line of vinyl helmets were

    Taking the theory one step further, either someone yanked a copy of the MH master that was used to make their multiple alloy molds, or ... someone took a direct mold from the alloy mold itself (this became the Lava), it was cleaned up and that became a Mystery Helmet. Perhaps there was never a clean "Mystery Helmet" lifted from DP Studios after all And dare I say, who ever dubbed the "Lava" helmet, had no clue that it was from a formerly "molten" master

    Right, or wrong ... it's a neat theory


    Best,

    Chris
    Last edited by fettpride; Dec 19, 2009 at 3:26 AM.
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    Dec 19, 2009, 2:03 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #2

    This is a great theory ... depending on the fact that this ebay mold is the true item.

    Great idea Chris!
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    Dec 19, 2009, 2:28 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #3

    That is actually a pretty interesting read! Your logic seems right on. What if you are right or atleast remotely right... that could prove VERY interesting

    El1te
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    Dec 19, 2009, 2:49 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #4

    Yeesh. I wish I had five grand. I'd snatch that up and donate it to someone who could actually preserve it like it should be preserved.
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    Dec 19, 2009, 3:14 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #5

    We should pool funds and get it. haha
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    Dec 19, 2009, 3:17 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #6

    We have 2,334 active members at TDH. If we all chipped in a couple of bucks, we could swing it
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    Dec 19, 2009, 3:24 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #7

    I've got my $2.14 standing by.
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    Dec 19, 2009, 3:54 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #8

    Does it really worth that much ?

    I mean if a helmet was actually pulled from that mold would there be interested to own a copy ?
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    Dec 19, 2009, 4:23 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #9

    IMHO Not really Well, at lest not for production purposes, as there are far more accurate helmets available these days

    But for a collector ... it could be. It is of course a rare Star Wars item. Highly unlikely that it is one of a kind. But rare none the less

    Chris
    Last edited by fettpride; Dec 19, 2009 at 4:31 AM.
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    Dec 19, 2009, 5:03 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #10

    Yup yup. I'd be down for a collective effort.
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    Dec 19, 2009, 5:08 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #11

    So basically, IF this is real (and the stamps on the inside seem to confirm that), then it would seem Don Post Helmets are smaller b/c they didn't scale up the mold? IE they made a mold the size of a full sized helmet and then used it as a negative mold to make helmets. That would explain the size of the posts, but you really have to wonder how that ever got approved.
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    Dec 19, 2009, 6:25 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #12

    well I would give up my pocket money...lol..
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    Dec 20, 2009, 11:07 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #13

    I took the liberty of posting the pics from the auction... not sure if thats allowed... if not, please admins delete this post...but I felt it would help the thread.




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    Dec 20, 2009, 11:23 AM - Re: Mystery Helmet - No longer a mystery? #14

    "LAVA" HELMET...

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