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  1. Feb 24, 2008, 8:57 PM - Mandalore's Pendant Interest #1

    Good evening,

    Several months ago, at one of our prop workshops Arturo, aka SEEKER, suggested that my companion, Alexandra, may want to make a pendant based on the "Mandalorian Symbol."


    After five separate attempts, Alex came to a final shape for the front of the pendant, but was stuck how the back would be treated. She wanted something special that would have meaning to the wearer. After seeing her initial designs, I suggested looking into Maori tribal tattoos. (This was to be in recognition of the New Zealand borne Temuera Morrison who played Jango Fett in SW Episode II.)


    An example of Ta Moko, a Maori tribal tattoo.


    A close-up of the back design on the pendant.
    Ta Moko tells the history of a person's achievemens and status in a tribe.
    The Koru (spiral) and the Haehae (lines) are the most prominent features in a Moko. The Koru represents birth, regrowth, regeneration and can represent actual ancestors. The Haehae lines refer to battles attended, chiefs slain or wounds received.

    (The forehead of the skull spells the Mandalorian word for glory; Kote!)
    Now that the master has been cast in bronze, and we have an idea of the work involved in finishing a piece, Alex has asked me to post a thread to gauge interest.

    (Click to enlarge)

    Comments and suggestions are welcomed.
    Please PM me if you are interested in this project.

    And as a last point of interest, I'd like to invite you to visit Alexandra's gallery;


    Be well,
    Thomas
    Last edited by The Clone Emperor; Feb 28, 2008 at 12:16 AM. Reason: to fix link to full sized image
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    Feb 24, 2008, 9:01 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #2

    Wow, very cool! PM on its way!
  3. DarkeSword2020 is offline DarkeSword2020
    Feb 24, 2008, 9:17 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #3

    I like both versions, which one do you like better?
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    Feb 24, 2008, 9:27 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #4

    Two sides to it dude!

    so you can have 2 for the price of 1.
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    Feb 25, 2008, 12:33 AM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #5

    Interested pending price
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    Feb 25, 2008, 11:07 AM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #6

    Yeah, I would also like to know a price... It's an awesome pendant.
    =)
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    Feb 25, 2008, 11:34 AM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #7

    Wow!

    I would love one!
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    Feb 25, 2008, 11:42 AM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #8

    Fantastic work guys!!!

    The pendant is like a coin. there's a front and back to it. one with the mori desgin and one withouot.

    Alex! Awesome!

    Can't wait to see it Saturday.

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    Feb 25, 2008, 12:00 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #9

    Those are beautiful! Would like to know price so consider me interested!. -_-
    Last edited by Drake; Feb 25, 2008 at 2:44 PM.
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    Feb 25, 2008, 12:47 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #10

    Kia Ora,

    I am part Maori, on my fathers side, and I can say with pride that the 'Moko' design on there is quite unique and accurate for its meaning for the Fett's. You included the Koru and Haehae very attentively and quite accurately describe them in that design. However, although you havent as yet and hoping you wont, i would refer to the designs not as Ta Moko, but as Kirituhi, or 'skin art' by western translation.

    Ta Moko represents Whakapapa (genealogy) and is highly family based, personalised and Highly protected within Maori Culture, whereas Kirituhi is just art in the form of Ta Moko, which is becoming ever increasingly popular among many 'Pakeha' (Non Indigeous New Zealanders) and many peoples of western civilisation. I sincerely hope that you do refer to it as on Kirituhi in respect of the culture. I am positive Temura would agree on this statement

    That being said however, many congratulations on a very well done design, and I too would be interested to purchase one as a display piece, dependant on price of course
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    Feb 25, 2008, 2:01 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #11

    Oh, thats so crafty! we love it.
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    Feb 25, 2008, 2:04 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #12

    Wow! Very cool. Definitely interested.
  13. Feb 25, 2008, 2:16 PM - syntax #13

    Good afternoon,

    For clarity's sake, this is one pendant with two sides. Unlike a t-shirt, though, this pendant can correctly be worn with either side facing out.

    The pendant is 2.5 inches tall, and will come with a black cord. The pendant will be cast in bronze, but silver is a possibility. The bronze pendants are treated with a patina to highlight the details.

    I will PM price and payment information to those have expressed interest, pending a clarification of board policy. (I have never sold or facilitated a sale through the board and I want to be sure to do so according to policy.)


    Greetings Alcfalath,

    I have heard the phrase "Ka Ora" in the popularized Ka Mate Haka. To the best of my understanding Ka Ora means "I live." ¿Does "Kia Ora" have a similar meaning?

    Thank you for your insight into the cultural implications of this project. Alexandra and I are both very concerned about presenting the Maori inspiration for this design in a respectful light.

    This is the reason we mention Ta Moko, and its elements Koru, Haehae. ¿Would it be clearer to say that this design is inspired by Kirituhi skin art, which is in turn inspired by Ta Moko, the deeply symbolic traditional tattoos of the Maori people?

    Thank you,
    Thomas
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    Feb 25, 2008, 2:21 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #14

    Wow! That looks fantastic!

    Very nice work!
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    Feb 25, 2008, 2:25 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #15

    count me interested!
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    Feb 25, 2008, 2:26 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #16

    That is beautiful! I'd be interested, pending price. Care to shoot me a PM? Thanks!
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    Feb 25, 2008, 2:42 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #17

    pm sent! I'm interested in a couple pending more details!
    Beutiful work and awesome piece!

    sincerely, jon
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    Feb 25, 2008, 2:45 PM - Re: syntax #18

    Lol Thomas

    Kia Ora means either Hello or Goodbye, it is a general greeting as such

    That explaination sounds good, however you can cut out one part and call it Kirituhi, inspired by Maori Ta Moko to make it easier Die Hard Maori Purists will still hate it, but unfortunately thats how it goes im afraid. :S

    At least this way it becomes very much like Moko, without being an insult to it You have done brilliantly with the design and its design depicts the life of either Fett or a Mando Bounty Hunter quite well

    Btw if you can PM me on prices that would be great I would be interested in a silver one if you made it, or moreso even in bone if possible If you made it in Bone im sure you would attract much interest

    Hope i have been help in this one

    Matt

    Quote The Clone Emperor said: View Post
    Good afternoon,

    For clarity's sake, this is one pendant with two sides. Unlike a t-shirt, though, this pendant can correctly be worn with either side facing out.

    The pendant is 2.5 inches tall, and will come with a black cord. The pendant will be cast in bronze, but silver is a possibility. The bronze pendants are treated with a patina to highlight the details.

    I will PM price and payment information to those have expressed interest, pending a clarification of board policy. (I have never sold or facilitated a sale through the board and I want to be sure to do so according to policy.)


    Greetings Alcfalath,

    I have heard the phrase "Ka Ora" in the popularized Ka Mate Haka. To the best of my understanding Ka Ora means "I live." ¿Does "Kia Ora" have a similar meaning?

    Thank you for your insight into the cultural implications of this project. Alexandra and I are both very concerned about presenting the Maori inspiration for this design in a respectful light.

    This is the reason we mention Ta Moko, and its elements Koru, Haehae. ¿Would it be clearer to say that this design is inspired by Kirituhi skin art, which is in turn inspired by Ta Moko, the deeply symbolic traditional tattoos of the Maori people?

    Thank you,
    Thomas
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    Feb 25, 2008, 3:25 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #19

    How large is it? (preferably transformed into the metric system by some nice lad )
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    Feb 25, 2008, 3:31 PM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #20

    2.5" = 76mm to us...
  21. Feb 25, 2008, 3:34 PM - conversion #21

    Off hand it is 2.54 cm to the inch.

    So 2.5" would be 6.35 cm.

    The piece is in bronze, but may be cast in silver.

    I have begun sending PM's with further information to all those who have expressed interest.

    Be well,
    Thomas
  22. Feb 26, 2008, 7:15 AM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #22

    AWSOME.... I would be interested as well please pm me with the the info also,thanks
  23. DarkeSword2020 is offline DarkeSword2020
    Feb 26, 2008, 7:33 AM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #23

    I'm interested too
  24. I helped at SDCC '08 The Clayster's Avatar
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    Feb 26, 2008, 8:24 AM - Re: Mandalore's Pendant Interest #24

    That's pretty cool, really.
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    Feb 26, 2008, 9:37 AM - Re: conversion #25

    Quote The Clone Emperor said: View Post
    Off hand it is 2.54 cm to the inch.

    So 2.5" would be 6.35 cm.
    Oops! my bad.. next time I'll use a calc?
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