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  1. RafalFett's Avatar
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    Apr 6, 2012, 2:38 PM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #26

    Quote Lucksy31 said: View Post
    VERY cool
    Thank you!
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    Apr 6, 2012, 3:14 PM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #27

    Impressive work Rafal!

    Where would we be without you?
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    Apr 6, 2012, 3:41 PM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #28

    Quote locitus said: View Post
    Impressive work Rafal!

    Where would we be without you?
    Thanks! It whould be the same awesome place as I found it when I joined.
  4. Apr 7, 2012, 3:30 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #29

    wooww nice find
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    Apr 7, 2012, 4:32 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #30

    Quote Terrible Rid said: View Post
    wooww nice find
    Thanks!
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    Apr 7, 2012, 8:03 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #31

    Man, that is wild! Outstanding research.

    Now who can make some dry transfer sets consisting of DV: IIIIIIIII EE: T for us?
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    Apr 7, 2012, 9:03 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #32

    Quote superjedi said: View Post
    Man, that is wild! Outstanding research.

    Now who can make some dry transfer sets consisting of DV: IIIIIIIII EE: T for us?
    Thanks a lot, Superjedi!
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    Apr 7, 2012, 12:07 PM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #33

    The end of the first post was updated with an image from a 1966 Letraset Catalogue.
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    Apr 7, 2012, 12:26 PM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #34

    I can.
    I've made my own that I gave out for free a while back.


    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/f...-decals-34606/

    Quote superjedi said: View Post
    Man, that is wild! Outstanding research.

    Now who can make some dry transfer sets consisting of DV: IIIIIIIII EE: T for us?
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    Apr 8, 2012, 12:14 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #35

    Thanks for sharing your detective work, Rafal. Good stuff

    Craig
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    Apr 8, 2012, 12:33 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #36

    Great work!
    So who is going to offer sets of these?
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    Apr 8, 2012, 1:45 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #37

    Quote Tsophika said: View Post
    Thanks for sharing your detective work, Rafal. Good stuff

    Craig
    Thanks a lot!

    Quote kbrosseau said: View Post
    Great work!
    So who is going to offer sets of these?
    Thanks!
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    Apr 9, 2012, 7:03 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #38

    Today I played a little bit with this image :

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    This is an A5 sheet (half of an A4 page) of an existing Letraset sheet (Helvetica Medium Condensed 7mm). The whole idea was to recreate a new sheet with the 'Folio Bold Condensed 7mm' font:

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    The whole page was recreated by using similar fonts and by replacing the sheet code with TDH and 0302, which means March 2002 (the birth of this forum) and in the end I applied a bit of aging to the page. I might recreat the page without any brand name and other codes if anyone will want to do these for the TDH members (or for anybody).

    I also did a test print of this sheet to see if the font height is indeed 7mm:

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    Perfect!
    Last edited by RafalFett; Apr 9, 2012 at 7:12 AM. Reason: Added test print.
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    Apr 9, 2012, 11:29 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #39

    I believe you are actually looking for 7.6mm (28pt) from Letraset. There was actually considerable debate at one point whether it was 7.6 or 6.7 (24pt) but from what I recall with our scaling tests on the helmet, 7.6 won out.

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    Apr 9, 2012, 11:32 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #40

    Here is Folio Bold Condensed scanned from the Letraset book and scaled to 7.6mm
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    Apr 9, 2012, 11:37 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #41

    And here is Folio Medium at 7.6mm for pack although we were never able to positively ID all the characters.

    Keep in mind the TTF's that are currently available vary slightly from the original dry transfers from Letraset.

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    Apr 9, 2012, 11:46 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #42

    Here is what we had come up with for the PP1 pack based on the 7.6mm Letraset letters... I can't remember if this was ever finalized or not, but for whatever it is worth, here it is.

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    Apr 9, 2012, 11:51 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #43

    And I am almost embarrassed to post these up because we never came close to finishing them, but here is as far as we got with the MoM pack based off Folio Medium.

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    Apr 10, 2012, 4:15 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #44

    I'm a bit confused! I know that the correct font size is 28, altough all the converters on the internet shows different values:

    Quote RafalFett said: View Post

    The height of the font is 7mm or font size 19.92 in US and UK or 18.62 in Europe (or 26.45 pixel or 0.2756 inch).
    I did a test print and the font size 20 was wrong, so a gradualy increased the font size until I got the font size 28, which for me gived exactly 7.0mm and not 7.6mm.

    The other thing that I don't understand from Art's post(s) is if this font was a known Letraset font or not, because all my searches were with no result(s).
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    Apr 10, 2012, 5:45 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font - Folio Bold Condensed. #45

    The thread title was changed and the beginning of the first post was updated with new informations:

    It seems that this Letraset font was already known by some members to be the one used on the Pre-Pro #3 and the ESB Hero helmets, but was never posted on the forums. I did a search on the forums for this font and all the results were negative.
    I will resume this thread from a found font to a simple font presentation.
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    Apr 10, 2012, 7:30 PM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font Found! #46

    Quote RafalFett said: View Post
    I'm a bit confused! I know that the correct font size is 28, altough all the converters on the internet shows different values:

    I did a test print and the font size 20 was wrong, so a gradualy increased the font size until I got the font size 28, which for me gived exactly 7.0mm and not 7.6mm.
    Keep in mind, as I mentioned earlier that the TTF font is not exact to the dry transfers.

    Here is where we are coming up with 28pt being 7.6mm. This is a scan from my 1976 Letraset Catalog which shows samples of all of their dry transfer fonts.


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    Apr 10, 2012, 7:33 PM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font - Folio Bold Condensed. #47

    Quote RafalFett said: View Post
    It seems that this Letraset font was already known by some members to be the one used on the Pre-Pro #3 and the ESB Hero helmets, but was never posted on the forums. I did a search on the forums for this font and all the results were negative.
    I will resume this thread from a found font to a simple font presentation.
    Sorry about that. Not trying to steal your thunder or withhold information. You have done an amazing amount of detective work here and that should not go unnoticed.

    Unfortunately, I thought the Letraset thing was well known and published. Tylerdurden (Dan) is the one who positively IDed the fonts about 8 years ago. I know their was debate about the size, but I didn't realize people weren't aware of what fonts were used. This is why we should be populating the wiki! Actually... if you look in the wiki, we do have an entry for Letraset Dry transfers, but we never filled it out.
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    Apr 11, 2012, 1:58 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font - Folio Bold Condensed. #48

    Quote Art Andrews said: View Post
    Keep in mind, as I mentioned earlier that the TTF font is not exact to the dry transfers.

    Here is where we are coming up with 28pt being 7.6mm. This is a scan from my 1976 Letraset Catalog which shows samples of all of their dry transfer fonts.


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    You are right on the difference between the Letraset and TTF font and the difference is under 1mm (more exactly 0.6mm) which is a huge deal in a small scale.

    Quote Art Andrews said: View Post
    Sorry about that. Not trying to steal your thunder or withhold information. You have done an amazing amount of detective work here and that should not go unnoticed.

    Unfortunately, I thought the Letraset thing was well known and published. Tylerdurden (Dan) is the one who positively IDed the fonts about 8 years ago. I know their was debate about the size, but I didn't realize people weren't aware of what fonts were used. This is why we should be populating the wiki! Actually... if you look in the wiki, we do have an entry for Letraset Dry transfers, but we never filled it out.
    The use of the Letraset lettering was a public knowledge, but not the specific font used. The fact that this particular font was never posted(?) on the forums made me to search for it. But now this is all public and the hunt begin for the accurate Letraset sheet.
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    May 19, 2012, 6:39 AM - Re: Letraset Dry Transfer Font - Folio Bold Condensed. #49

    Updated the end of the first post with 2 (A4 and LTR) transparent PNG files with a replica Letraset Folio Bold Condensed sheet for anybody would like to use it.

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