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  1. skygunbro is offline skygunbro
    Dec 8, 2007, 1:25 PM - LATER friends On the TDH #1

    Well Im gonna take off from here.I have been around for along time and although I dont have tons of posts feel I have helped alot of people here and made some good friends.

    But I am leaving. I can no longer take the elitist attitude of some or the sickening little cliques and selective selling that goes on here.As well as the treatment of newbies... where someone will spend 10 minutes writing a snotty reply about how to use the search function when a new member asks a simple question.
    I also dont like the fact some people here feel to make it a point to make fools of others who arent as knowledgable about this as they think they are.

    Without new people this hobby will die so remember that the next time you feel the need to berrate some newbie.

    To most here
    Later-skygunbro
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    Dec 8, 2007, 1:34 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #2

    That stinks, but it's completely understandable. i hope you eventually reconsider and come back to the dent. Good luck

    Dan
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    Dec 8, 2007, 1:38 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #3

    I completely agree with Citizen_Snips, I hope you reconsider. If not, good luck with your future ventures.


    Aaron
  4. I helped at SDCC '08 Jango 5204's Avatar
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    Dec 8, 2007, 1:43 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #4

    Jason, I sent you an Email. Bummer, I'll keep in touch.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 2:45 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #5

    I'm sorry to hear you feel that way, Jason, and I share some of your frustrations. Your contributions have been valuable. I have great costume parts made by you. You were nice enough to do business with me when I was new here.

    Leaving the forum won't help solve the issues you describe, though. At least PM the admins with the details of your frustrations, so they can be addressed where possible.

    The "frustrated veterans berate newbies about the search function" thing is a symptom of every vBulletin forum I go to. Useful information gets buried under a million posts. There's a solution somewhere for that. It's easy and tempting (but wrong) to "dogpile on the noob" for not knowing where 50 different forum posts are. That's a user behavior motivated by a bigger site layout problem.

    Anyway, I'm sure the admins are motivated to keep this place friendly and informative for everybody, and user feedback is an essential resource to help them do that. Don't just leave!
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    Dec 8, 2007, 3:06 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #6

    A sad day for the community!
    I hope as others do, that you decide to either reconsider or come back when your ready?

    You helped me recently and others to obtain that Tackle Twill to create my vest & neck seal...
    Selfishly, just when I was ready to obtain one of the best flightsuit made to date! bummer.

    I understand your reasons, but don't be a stranger...
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    Dec 8, 2007, 3:10 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #7

    Say it's not so, Jason. I see your frustration though. All too often I use the search function only to find that the info I'm looking for goes back to the beginnings of TDH and that all the links and pics no longer work when I get there. Count Dookie is right. "Use the search function, Noob" is an all too familiar reply no matter where you go. I hope you reconsider and stay. I've only been here for a little over a year and it's people like yourself who make this the best Fett site on the net. Please don't stay away too long.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 3:54 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #8

    Sad to see you go man, if you see this. Your user name is one I have come across a few times as a noob. Sorry to see you go, that will be one less helpful guy around here then. Bummer.

    As a noob I feel quite well looked after. it would maybe be helpfull to have a bit of a start up area with faq, or a link which is in effect a search for noobs who are struggling with performing a search, Like "click here" for ESB v ROTJ differences, which I have asked and I have seen a few other people ask in my short time here, it must be a little frustrating to be asked that for the millionth time.

    Let me know if I can help.

    Noob.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 4:52 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #9

    It's sad to see you go, but I fully understand why you are leaving. Member attitudes have also driven others away from the board, some who have been here as long or as little as you. Good luck to you in the future, I hope you stay in the costuming and that this board didn't spoil it for you from that.

    It's a shame we have to lose a member in order for a few words to be said. Rather than the issue be pointed out without a lashing.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 5:08 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #10

    I have felt the same way, but I stick around because of all the good folks I do know.
    I check around here often, but I'm hoping it will get back to being as inviting to new ones as it was when I first joined.
    I'll see you on the other forums though bro!

    Maybe there should be a sticky with links to old threads that answer frequently asked questions for each topic for newbies.
    If not a simple link or direct answer could suffice rather than some disrespectful responses.
  11. slave1pilot is offline slave1pilot
    Dec 8, 2007, 5:14 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #11

    Jason,
    I respect your decision becuase you are absolutley correct.
    You will be missed.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 5:30 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #12

    Sorry to see you go Jason.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 5:47 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #13

    Sucks to see you go man. You've always seemed to be around to help people out, and one fantastic work. Have a good time wherever you move on to. We'll be waiting if you reconsider!
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    Dec 8, 2007, 6:26 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #14

    Jason, I've never had the opportunity to chat with you or purchase any of your flightsuits or the other great items you have offered here on the TDH but as a new guy here, I have searched the many outdated posts for info only to get a lame response by someone who wants to school me on how to use a computer. I respect your decision but also think leaving this community because of the actions of others is a little harsh bro. I mean, it is what it is. there will always be one or two knuckleheads who make things unpleasant for others be it here or any other website. I have read many jaw dropping responses left by seasoned members many times. the "know it all" attitude needs to stop. you said it best by saying " without new people, this hobby will die" please reconsider and stay. who knows if the Board reads this, they may take action and issue warnings to disrespectful members. anyway, hope you stick around bro.

    B1
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    Dec 8, 2007, 8:26 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #15

    Dude don't leave. It isn't just because I need your services. It is because when level headed individuals leave that is just one less voice of reason. The community at large will lose out big time if you decide to part ways. I hope you will reconsider this. I haven't been around as long as some, but I have been lurking for years before I could afford to start up my JF and BF. I just read the posts that I care to and avoid the flames. This is a good forum for the most part, so I really hope you reconsider. If not then I wish you well, and I will just have to regret not having one of your flightsuits, pouches, vest, etc. etc. etc.
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    Dec 8, 2007, 8:49 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #16

    Those are all good points, and I'd rather not see Jason leave either. That is his choice however, not ours. Him leaving may give the community (word used very loosely) another reason to look at itself and pick out its flaws that were brought up and act upon them. However I believe that their noses will turn up into the air like this was never brought up.

    Jason,
    I had only wished I knew how you felt before today, I've had plenty of discussions with plenty other members about the exact same problem you have with the forum. This topic needs to be brought up and discussed more often than when someone decides they've had enough. Just remember that you are hurting the forum with your absence. If you think the forum has a poor attitude, then a great person like you doesn't need to work with it.

    Andy
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    Dec 8, 2007, 9:29 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #17

    sorry to hear of ur dissapointment and disgust. its very understandable but sad to hear.
    although i have not had the pleasure to get to know u personally, being a "noob" if u will i have stumbled across tons of helpful and informative info that u have provided that has made it possible to get further in my fett.

    your sculpting and artistic skills are very inspiring to say the least. hope you will re-consider and come back one day, and if you choose not to i understand and goodluck w/ ur new path....your talents will be missed.....




    *im reflecting on things now.....usually ill try to post a link or give an explanation to try to help someone out who asks. but sometimes i will suggest "search" as politley as i can if i dont recall a thread or i dont have any info. only becasue idk.
    but mabye sometimes when we think we are trying to be helpful in saying that or giving our opinion about a topic that someone may indeed take it as were comming off wrong....sometimes its hard to distinguish someones words no matter how many emoticons we use... and someone may actually take our helpful advice as an insult or in a demeaning way.......i guess as the old saying goes " sometimes its best to say nothing at all" falls into play....

    i speak for myself when i say this, but i will definatly watch how i approach saying things, i dont want anyone old members or new to feel the way skygunbro does!!! if i have please let me me apoligize now!!!
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    Dec 8, 2007, 10:29 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #18

    Jason, may the force be with you... always.. :P

    It will be a loss to see you go, but you have left your print on this community and I hope to see you return someday. If not, you will be missed, but godspeed in whatever venture you take on in the future. One would hope you still produce your flightsuits, but that is your perogative

    Take care and hope to see you floating around sometime soon.

    Matt
  19. Dec 8, 2007, 10:34 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #19

    Wow, that's was a lot of reading for sure. There is a unity here of proactive and passionate folks. As we all are for this awesome hobby. This a great opportunity for the membership to reflect and step back to see what we all could do together to improve upon an all ready solid, friendly community of artists at large. I agree that sometimes we all get off track abit, as alot of us are working adults, with overhead, children to raise, Christmas breathing down all our necks. Though, keep the debate goin', that's the only way we will find some good solutions.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 12:01 AM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #20

    Sorry to see you go SGB, you've definitely added a lot to this hobby. Take care.
  21. Dec 9, 2007, 12:04 AM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #21

    peace out man!
  22. The Sniffer is offline The Sniffer
    Dec 9, 2007, 4:00 AM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #22

    Sniff on my dear brother! Sniff on!
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    Dec 9, 2007, 5:29 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #23

    This is a truely sad day. Jason, I hope you reconsider and stay, or I hope the changes can occur to bring you back. You are easily one of the best vendors on this board. Your communication, turn around time, and of course the product is top notch. Not to mention the fact that you are fantastic to deal with. I own many of your product, and have been extremely happy with all of it. Your post count has absolutely no reflection on the help you have provided this board, in my opinion. Man, I really hope you don't leave for good. I will keep in touch
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    Dec 9, 2007, 5:42 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #24

    Didn't this come up when we were on the phone a few months back? Don't shun everyone else because of a couple of bad apples. The time will come when those guys will have alienated everyone around them, and then they'll see the light. Until then, just let them wallow in their own ****.

    Leaving isn't going to solve anything. Honestly, theres no reason for you to go. It will play itself out, eventually. I think (in the long run) you'd be happier if you stuck around. Overall, TDH is still a fantastic place to spend some time. <3


    -Shawn
    Last edited by Devilstar2k2; Dec 9, 2007 at 6:13 PM.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 8:38 PM - Re: LATER friends On the TDH #25

    Hey Jason, sorry to see you go, thx for the help.

    take care

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