Just watched CLONE WARS (special preview).......possible spoiler
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I saw it yesterday. I almost thought Jabba was going to eat his son when he picked him up.....
Now that would have made a good movie
Rat Fett
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Yeah, but so were the original Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars cartoons that were so excellent, they even won a couple of Emmy's. There's no reason to change the tone of this series to appeal to kids. Kids embrace SW no matter what. All this does is turn me off to any future SW endeavors that GL is directly involved in. When you have great cartoon series like Justice League/Unlimited or Batman The Animated Series or the direct to DVD DC Comic series, SW should have taken a page from Bruce Timm's success. I was really hoping they'd actually want to break some new ground with an animated series, but really the bottom line for GL is merchandising not quality story telling.
ATAT Luvah
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Okay, I had ZERO desire to see this movie and I am as big a Star Wars fan as they come, but my son asked to see this movie and I finally took him today.
After hearing all the negative reviews, I was really expecting a bomb of epic proportions.
Gotta say it - this was actually quite entertaining. I was really sick of stories told in the Clone Wars era, but this actually got me going quite a few times and I have to give it a good review. It is Star Wars in another format, a new medium, and a different style. My son loved it, and there were kids in the audience that absolutely were going ga ga over it. So much so that after the movie, there were a good half dozen boys play lightsaber fighting in the lobby. It was pretty cool.
So for a Sunday afternoon matinee with my boy, it was a good time. The only thing that bugged me a bit about Ziro was not his flamboyance, but his speaking Basic. But I guess since he is not in the Outer Rim but in the capital of the Republic, it makes sense that he speaks it. He's only got about 5 minutes of screentime, so it's not like he derails the flick.
Lots of action, decent humor, and lots of nods and foreshadowing to classic trilogy designs. So I was happy.
After hearing all the negative reviews, I was really expecting a bomb of epic proportions.
Gotta say it - this was actually quite entertaining. I was really sick of stories told in the Clone Wars era, but this actually got me going quite a few times and I have to give it a good review. It is Star Wars in another format, a new medium, and a different style. My son loved it, and there were kids in the audience that absolutely were going ga ga over it. So much so that after the movie, there were a good half dozen boys play lightsaber fighting in the lobby. It was pretty cool.
So for a Sunday afternoon matinee with my boy, it was a good time. The only thing that bugged me a bit about Ziro was not his flamboyance, but his speaking Basic. But I guess since he is not in the Outer Rim but in the capital of the Republic, it makes sense that he speaks it. He's only got about 5 minutes of screentime, so it's not like he derails the flick.
Lots of action, decent humor, and lots of nods and foreshadowing to classic trilogy designs. So I was happy.
SharkForge
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I honestly really enjoyed it! I saw this movie with my friend Crashley. I loved how awesome Rex and Cody were. heh
El1te
El1te
Stormrider
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I found myself looking at the armour and costumes. The scouts were extremely cool looking. As was the body armour worn by all of the jedi. It left me with a tun of ideas and new projects to add to my list.
As for the movie, I would have rather not seen it. In all honesty visually it was pretty good, and if I had watched it with no dialog, or even dialog in a different language, it probably wouldnt have been so bad. But I still have to sit and wonder, is everyone in the world really so afraid to tell george lucas 'Hay man, thats terrible. Maybe you should do that a different way'.
Between skyguy and r2ooey, to repeating the blatantly obvious over and over again, I have to say that im not such a fan.
Now, in the correct light, its not a terrible movie. If this is a tv show that will be on on saturday mornings, pretty good! Thursday/Friday evenings? Not so much.
The visuals though, I have to say, were striking. I always like to leave with some sort of positive. *shrug*
As for the movie, I would have rather not seen it. In all honesty visually it was pretty good, and if I had watched it with no dialog, or even dialog in a different language, it probably wouldnt have been so bad. But I still have to sit and wonder, is everyone in the world really so afraid to tell george lucas 'Hay man, thats terrible. Maybe you should do that a different way'.
Between skyguy and r2ooey, to repeating the blatantly obvious over and over again, I have to say that im not such a fan.
Now, in the correct light, its not a terrible movie. If this is a tv show that will be on on saturday mornings, pretty good! Thursday/Friday evenings? Not so much.
The visuals though, I have to say, were striking. I always like to leave with some sort of positive. *shrug*
Jaiden
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I agree that this would work better as a Saturday morning run, and I'll add that an evening showing to recap the previous week would be a good idea. But, no, exclusively as a night show wouldn't work.
I don't really know if anyone would have the balls to tell GL the truth about some of his dialog. I remember the old saying that either Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher came up with..."George, you can type this **** but you can't say it."
My thought on his -sometimes atrocious - dialog is that he's going for the classic literature feel...sort of a Shakespearian air to it. I know he took the idea of all six movies from archetypes in history, from Greek tragedies to opera (I think?) and set the story in space. So, the dialog would seem to fit, if it were to be set to music on a stage where the actors were singing in Italian. But, as for English-speaking viewers, the simpler the better. You are absolutely right, Stormrider, we don't need to be told what is happening while we see it happening.
As a screen writing coach once told me, "Dialog is essential to move the story along, but excessive dialog can slow the story to a crawl and kill it."
David.
I don't really know if anyone would have the balls to tell GL the truth about some of his dialog. I remember the old saying that either Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher came up with..."George, you can type this **** but you can't say it."
My thought on his -sometimes atrocious - dialog is that he's going for the classic literature feel...sort of a Shakespearian air to it. I know he took the idea of all six movies from archetypes in history, from Greek tragedies to opera (I think?) and set the story in space. So, the dialog would seem to fit, if it were to be set to music on a stage where the actors were singing in Italian. But, as for English-speaking viewers, the simpler the better. You are absolutely right, Stormrider, we don't need to be told what is happening while we see it happening.
As a screen writing coach once told me, "Dialog is essential to move the story along, but excessive dialog can slow the story to a crawl and kill it."
David.
ATAT Luvah
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While I agree with your points on dialogue, Jaiden, are we even sure that Lucas wrote ANY of these episodes? He is an Executive Producer and from all accounts was heavily involved in production, but he does not have any screenwriting credits in the movie that I know of.
But I agree, I think if you are working for George Lucas, it must be very difficult to challenge him. It IS his playground and the money just keeps pouring in, so he must be doing something right.
That or it's a testament to just how much goodwill the OT generated 30 years ago.
But I agree, I think if you are working for George Lucas, it must be very difficult to challenge him. It IS his playground and the money just keeps pouring in, so he must be doing something right.
That or it's a testament to just how much goodwill the OT generated 30 years ago.
whistle8mp
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I could'nt agree with you more, I have been waiting 10 years to come up with a reason why I still hang on. Nicely put. :cheers
DL44 Blaster
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Guess I'll chime in since I did see it last Wednesday. I'd give it a C- to a D+.......I totally agree that the Tartakovsky series blew this new chapter away!! This wasn't a travesty, but it was a letdown in story and mood.
I loved the textures and the fight scenes were decent, but it just missed the point for me....music was another area of disappointment for me as it was for so many others.
Why in 1977 when I was only 6 years old did I love a movie that was basically over my head, yet left an indelible mark some 30 years later for a franchise that I have spent countless hours delved in and spent thousands of dollars in my adult life recapturing to only continually be let down by every release since 1983?!? I realize "you can never go home", but this time I want my $8 back for sitting through what should have been released on its' intended medium....television. I probably would have accepted it much better 30 minutes at a time for free than being trapped for 90 minutes and feeling robbed of my eight bucks:facepalm Why do things have to be infantile to be entertaining to a new age of Star Wars fans....is George Lucas' audience he's trying to capture perpetual 4 year olds:confused ....I just don't get it anymore. In 1977 Han shot first and we were all just enthralled by the marvel that was and is Star Wars.
Guess I'll stop since my "review" became a rant:facepalm
Steve
I loved the textures and the fight scenes were decent, but it just missed the point for me....music was another area of disappointment for me as it was for so many others.
Why in 1977 when I was only 6 years old did I love a movie that was basically over my head, yet left an indelible mark some 30 years later for a franchise that I have spent countless hours delved in and spent thousands of dollars in my adult life recapturing to only continually be let down by every release since 1983?!? I realize "you can never go home", but this time I want my $8 back for sitting through what should have been released on its' intended medium....television. I probably would have accepted it much better 30 minutes at a time for free than being trapped for 90 minutes and feeling robbed of my eight bucks:facepalm Why do things have to be infantile to be entertaining to a new age of Star Wars fans....is George Lucas' audience he's trying to capture perpetual 4 year olds:confused ....I just don't get it anymore. In 1977 Han shot first and we were all just enthralled by the marvel that was and is Star Wars.
Guess I'll stop since my "review" became a rant:facepalm
Steve
Ribdo
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I noticed those two details also, it made me feel a "disturbance" in the force and gave me chills.
Scoutleader
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Those are "Jaig Eyes"
Given to Mandalorian warriors as well clone troopers for acts of bravery and have distinguished in battle
Given to Mandalorian warriors as well clone troopers for acts of bravery and have distinguished in battle
i enjoyed the movie, but i merely watched it as a intro to a serries. the animation looks great. (though in some parts its a little rigid) i loved the action. the dialog was just as horrible as it was in revenge of the sith. (yoda made even less sense than he usualy does)
the only part i thought was a bit to much was trying to cram padme in at the end. it makes absolutly no sense to put her in that late in the story. same goes for ziro.
but the thing that killed the plot for me was... *drum roll*
Jabba's son, *** were they thinking.
all in all i enjoyed watching it. but no way that i'll ever accept any of this as part of star wars cannon
the only part i thought was a bit to much was trying to cram padme in at the end. it makes absolutly no sense to put her in that late in the story. same goes for ziro.
but the thing that killed the plot for me was... *drum roll*
Jabba's son, *** were they thinking.
all in all i enjoyed watching it. but no way that i'll ever accept any of this as part of star wars cannon
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