Interest\signup for Hand Crafted, Wooden, EE-3 Webley Stocks

interested buddy x2

Originally Posted by 22ssplt

interested buddy x2

Sweet, there's a quick (3)!!!

17 more and were in.

I'm in!

count me in Scott, and just to make sure, the ROTJ and ESB blasters have the same stock, yes? is so, then i am in...

I am interested. What wood type are you planning on having these made out of?

im interested

Count me interested.

Also, just a thought here, but since your having someone who's very knowledgeable on wood working making these stocks, could he also go ahead and stain them, as he would know the best technique / color / type of stain to best replicate the original webley stock?

THX

im on the marine corps silent drill platoon and our M1 garand stocks break frequently. so im very knowledgeable on how to get rifle stocks looking purddddy. so if the stocks are shipped barebone when i get mine i will post a tutorial for anyone who needs help.


just throwin that out there

Interested, depending on product.

Originally Posted by Galactic Bounty Hunter

Count me interested.

Also, just a thought here, but since your having someone who's very knowledgeable on wood working making these stocks, could he also go ahead and stain them, as he would know the best technique / color / type of stain to best replicate the original webley stock?

THX

GBH we did one recently for a client... was made based off the MR Rifle stock, and was maple finished with regular wood oil (about four coats) and steal wood to finish.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Interested, depending on product.



GBH we did one recently for a client... was made based off the MR Rifle stock, and was maple finished with regular wood oil (about four coats) and steal wood to finish.

I'll see if I can get him to email some pics today, until I can pick mine up this week.

I'll also ask about staining, but my guess is that he will have to charge more for that.

i am interested.......sign me up!!

Originally Posted by Lucksy31

I'll see if I can get him to email some pics today, until I can pick mine up this week.

I'll also ask about staining, but my guess is that he will have to charge more for that.

I'd stain it myself... the cheaper the better.
And what kind of wood would he be using?

Thanks for doing these btw.

I was debating on finding someone who can do this, (or maybe even try myself) so your timing is perfect! Im interested in two please. I would much prefer to stain them myself.

Sounds cool. Throw me on the list, too.
I'll echo a couple other members: what kind of wood will these be made from?

Originally Posted by superjedi

Sounds cool. Throw me on the list, too.
I'll echo a couple other members: what kind of wood will these be made from?

You got it man, list updated.

He did get back to me via email today, and he let me know that the wood he chose was Fir. This was to keep costs as low as possible, and still provide a good, solid, stock.

He did say that requests for other types of wood could be made, but the cost would also go up. I'm gonna stick with the fir personally.

As for the staining, I will ask that as well. What is the generally accepted Stain color for ESB and ROTJ??

I will provide more info as well as pics, as soon as I have it. Thanks!

I saw my name on the list, but only once. I just wanna make sure you know I would like 2 please. Excited to see the final product!

Could you check with your source and ask about the price difference for Walnut or Hickory stocks. Walnut is extremely strong and is a common wood used for gunstocks. It also tends to stain a little better than Fir does.

At that price, I think I'm interested.

Nice tip, FettFanatic, its good to hear some knowledge on the subject. It is a good price, so I am also interested in the price on a walnut upgrade if you could ask the maker? If not then fir is fine. Thank you

Webley stocks are made from English black walnut. A little more expensive and a very hard wood. You would want stain it with more than one color stain. STain it once with a black stain, sand it down, and go back over it with a red stain. That's the technique that was commonly used for gunstocks during WWI and WWII. It's quick but still comes out looking like it has a lot of depth. And if you find the right
of wood it almost looks elegant and regal.


: )


just my 2 cents

I'd like to see how it looks first, but I'm pretty sure I'd be interested. Put me down for one. Thanks!

cant wait!

Originally posted by 22split:
cant wait!

Me Too! Sidewinder kit is coming in the mail, Taco sling in hand, some original molex connectors from Art, and my Heiland flash tube. This will finish it off nicely!
...any word on the price differences in walnut?

Yes please. Could you add me to the list?
Thanks.

PICS and wood types added to 1st post!!!

Nice scott

sweet.

very nice lucky

awesome

Heck, I'm psyched for myself to get the 1st one!!!

very nice. youll deffinetly hear from me when the Metal webleys project gets off the ground

Add me on that list please

hey Scott, just out of curiosity, will the wood stocks be lighter than say the solid resin stocks? like the ones that come with the sidewinder kit? thanks...

At that price, I can't let it pass! Sign me up

<--- wants one! I'm in

ill take a Maple one pending the price

Originally Posted by FettDad

hey Scott, just out of curiosity, will the wood stocks be lighter than say the solid resin stocks? like the ones that come with the sidewinder kit? thanks...

My guess is that the wooden ones WILL be lighter than the solid resin one. The resin one is VERY solid, and has a good weight to it. When I pick mine up, i'll weigh both of them to be sure.

Please add me too.

Hey Scott, hows Walnut?? It has a dark tone already, and all you would have to do is use wood oil and steel wool to finish....of course considering you did an ESB stock.

kinda like this:

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Hey Scott, hows Walnut?? It has a dark tone already, and all you would have to do is use wood oil and steel wool to finish....of course considering you did an ESB stock.

kinda like this:

That DOES look fabulous, but wasn't on his list. I'm sure for the right price you could get EXACTLY what you wanted. I'm actually trying to get him to join TDH since he's a star wars fan(vader mostly).

For me, my ROTJ EE-3 is getting painted black so the wood isn't too much of a concern. I just wanted the look,feel and weight of the wood.

Showing my ignorance here, What does the steel wool do for you??

Any idea on pricing for the other woods yet Lucksy31?

Originally Posted by Lucksy31

Showing my ignorance here, What does the steel wool do for you??

steel wool is used to pull up the fibers of the wood. so when you sand it down it gets as smooth as possible. if you use tru-oil on your stock *tru oil is a specially made oil for rifle stocks which makes it shine* you use steel wool to pull up marks on the stock. hope this was helpful

well that's cool... i got excited about my Seven kit and already made a wood stock though, and the bracket...whoops

now it's done

Any update on this?

Yep, sorry for the lull in follow ups. The Carpenter(Greg) emailed me about it and he's going forward with the WALNUT stock. They seem to be the preferred wood, but he will stiff offer the less expensive Fir. He didn't give me a price for WALNUT yet since he's still not completed the 1st prototype yet but it will be more then the Fir wood. I'm hoping to have the final numbers this weekend. I'll keep everyone posted.

Originally posted by Lucksy31:
Yep, sorry for the lull in follow ups. The Carpenter(Greg) emailed me about it and he's going forward with the WALNUT stock. They seem to be the preferred wood, but he will stiff offer the less expensive Fir. He didn't give me a price for WALNUT yet since he's still not completed the 1st prototype yet but it will be more then the Fir wood. I'm hoping to have the final numbers this weekend. I'll keep everyone posted.

Awesome! I am still in for 2 walnut please. Thanks again.

Originally Posted by Lucksy31

Yep, sorry for the lull in follow ups. The Carpenter(Greg) emailed me about it and he's going forward with the WALNUT stock. They seem to be the preferred wood, but he will stiff offer the less expensive Fir. He didn't give me a price for WALNUT yet since he's still not completed the 1st prototype yet but it will be more then the Fir wood. I'm hoping to have the final numbers this weekend. I'll keep everyone posted.

Sweet... Walnut should be reeeally nice..can't wait to see it.

If you can get Walnut ill take that instead as its much more accurite

Make mine fir please

I'm up for walnut too please

I'd have to say Walnut too, why not just take one more step towards accuracy?

I'll take walnut, pending price.

Ooooooh, walnut! Sounds great. Hope the price won't be too much more than the others.

Originally Posted by Murphoid

I'll take walnut, pending price.

same here!
any clue how much the shipping to germany is for this baby?

Count me interested. Especially if walnut is an option.

im in for a walnut as well, if it doesnt break the bank...

please put me in for 2 walnuts.

interested in 1

any news on the walnut one?

The only news update is that he DID get some walnut to start these. I will update more as I know. Sorry for the delayed progress guys. I'm just the messenger and I wanna get these into your hands just as bad as you want them!

Any updates Lucksy?

Sorry guys, not too much to report actually. I DID go to his shop to check in, and he showed me the Huge slab of walnut that he had purchased. He also showed me the invoice for it, and it was $300 just for the walnut. It's a piece about 24in wide, 40in long and 3in deep. I don't know ANYTHING about wood, but he said that it was a GREAT price since walnut is VERY EXPENSIVE. He's made "jigs" for each individual gun stock and they DO look very nice. The Fir ones will be done 1st, and will be much cheaper. The walnut ones will be done second, and will be $50 plus shipping. I will start an official "SIGNUP" list once into production.
So, I pressed him for a completion time for these and he's still not sure. He's gotten extremely busy and since this isn't a huge profit maker, it's not his priority right now.
I apologize for the delay, but it's completely out of MY hands. If you CAN wait for these , I promise you that it WILL be worth it. I hope you guys understand!!!

No worries Scott, I'm still in for a walnut please

I've waited this long, I can wait a bit longer.

Still interested in a walnut stock.

Don't worry about the wait time. I don't mind waiting for a nice walnut stock.

Ditto. I am still in. No stress on the time. Thanks for the update.

Just a quick note, I'm won't be needing this stock any longer.

THX!

Hi there.. I am sooo interested in one of these!

Thanks a bunch!

Yeha, you and me both. I'm still waiting for mine as well. I apologize this taking SO long, but I have NO control or input on the time frame. I'm glad that NO money was collected, so there's no issue there. All I can say is that whne these DO get going, it will be worth the wait.. Sorry guys.....

PLEASE put on this let im interested for sure.

Any updates Lucksy?

My only update is my frustration with the entire matter. Sorry guys. I'm still hoping to see this through....

Hey! If it doesn't work out, we didn't lose anything! No worries, vod!

It's been a while. Any word Lucksy?

I would jump on these guys, as I couldnt sell a resin and foam filled stock for less than that, because of the time and money involved in making them.

So to anyone that wants one of my kits, ill take $20 right off the top if you dont want the stock!.

Originally Posted by Lath Toth

It's been a while. Any word Lucksy?

Nope, no word at all. I was topping by his shop on a weekly basis, with NO progress. Then that turned into phone calls, and I haven't had much time to follow up with him. I feel awful that it didn't pan out, but at least no one is out of any money. Sorry guys.

If anything happens with them i'll be sure to post up.

-Scott

No worries, vod. You did what you could.

Guys,
After some recent prodding, I contacted the carpenter again and let him know how disappointed I was. He thouroughly apologized, and explained his overwhelming workload, as well as lack of profit he would make. It took MUCH longer to make than he anticipated, and the walnut was VERY, VERY expensive.
I got a call today to come by his shop, so I of course I stopped by. To my surprise, he had completed (2) stocks!!!! I had NOT ever gotten mine either, so needless to say I was psyched and in disbelief. So, i'm going to take one and there is currently (1) spare, for now.
He apologized again, and said to make this worth his while, he would need to charge considerably more than he first offered. HE would like to get $100 shipped for this one, due to the high cost of the walnut and the amount of work that it took to make this. Are there any woodworkers out there that can confirm that this cost is accurate for this amount of work and this type of wood? I just don't know enough about wood to say either way. If there's still interest, he'll do a few at a time and let me know.
Anyways, if someone does want it, just post up and it's yours. I'll PM you HIS PayPal addy if interested. 1st come, 1st serve. Sorry I couldn't do better, but it's completly out of my control.
They are SUPER lightweight, hard as a rock, and the wood is SO dark, it's amazing. Here's a few pics to show how NICE these are:













Like I said, if you DO happen to still want it, just post up.

Oohhh....nice! I wish I had $100 to spare right now. I'd jump right on it.

Is there anyone out there who knows anyone who can make these from a cheaper, lighter wood ? If it has any grain, it would still look good, then just stain it.

Walnut is very expensive. Even more so if you wanted to use English Black Walnut(which is what they used to make the stocks on the original Webleys).
You're looking at about $30 for a piece just barely big enough to make the stock. Then it'll take you about 2 days to shape it properly.
Then another 2 days to stain it, sand it, stain it again, sand it one more time, and clear coat it.
So yeah,
$100 per stock sounds about right with all of the work involved.

Walnut is not Cheap.. but if this is for ESB, then it's totally correct...so the extra charge is warrented. Let me know when to pay, I'm still in.

***OH and Please don't stain mine, if at all possible.... I want mine plain.

Just noticed... you have the back side (butt of the gun) too rounded off.
Should be flat.

Originally Posted by FettDad

hey Scott, just out of curiosity, will the wood stocks be lighter than say the solid resin stocks? like the ones that come with the sidewinder kit? thanks...

Just to touch base on this as well, the Walnut stock is MAYBE 1/4 of the weight of the resin. My ROTJ blaster is SO much lighter, and comforatble to carry, it's rediculous. I was really surprised HOW light it was, and also how HARD this wood is. You can knock on it and there's a "THUD".

I would really like to see this through for everyone, is there still interest if I get him to agree to $75(shipped), and a timetable??

If so, i'll start a new thread.....

I'm still up for one, just let me know when there's a 'perfect' one ready for me and I'll PP you, unless you need the payment in advance?

Originally Posted by mrmandalore

.....unless you need the payment in advance?

No No NO, there will be NO pre-payments. I made that request of him. When there's something in hand to ship, then he'll let me know. Once they're ready, you send HIM payment(not me).